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Do you mean the sdr settings for sdr content?
Have you tried my hdr settings with forced sdr?

I've actually saved both (your SDR with SDR and also HDR with SDR) settings on my PJ. Not had a chance to watch any HDR with your settings as yet but am looking forward to that. Your SDR settings are great, slightly warmer than I'm used to but it looks fantastic on 'real life' content (as opposed to heavily CGI/Sci-Fi type stuff).
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Great, thanks! Personally I think my HDR settings are far more impressing. We all know sdr by now...
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Is there any news of a 5040ub replacement yet? I'm pretty certain it will be soon. I've been searching for CES news but I haven't found anything yet. I'm returning my 4010 to upgrade because the black levels were just really lacking and the picture was washed out. So now I have to decide on the 5040ub for 2099 with free extra lamp, vs whatever the replacement will be - which we have no idea yet about features, specs, availability date, or price. Not sure what to do.
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Is there any news of a 5040ub replacement yet? I'm pretty certain it will be soon. I've been searching for CES news but I haven't found anything yet. I'm returning my 4010 to upgrade because the black levels were just really lacking and the picture was washed out. So now I have to decide on the 5040ub for 2099 with free extra lamp, vs whatever the replacement will be - which we have no idea yet about features, specs, availability date, or price. Not sure what to do.

WOW, that is a killer price if its from an Authorized dealer!


For the money and what the 5040 does, it's a no brainer!


I bought my 5040UBE the month it came out for about 3K. Have had no issues, except I've had to watch everything all over again, and quickly trying to update all of my DVD as fast as possible to 3D Blu Ray and if it's not made in 3D, then 4K. Looks ABSOLUTELY stunning on a grey 1.3 ALR 150" screen.


If this unit is mind blowing for it's 4K eShift on BR and 4K disc. I can't image when 8k becomes the norm and hopefully at that time Epson makes an 8K eShift. Think about, if BR disc look so stunning now (even with the shortfall of the limiting bandwidth not getting true 18Gbps and all of the other HDR work arounds). Image what an 8K eShift will do!
Yes I know it'll have it's own set of limitations all over again, probably won't do 24Gbps bandwidth and won't do some new technology of HDRX1000 and what not.
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Here are some SDR settings from Orcus:
Just a minor followup (vs. making a request and just going dark - so to speak). I entered Orcus' dark room SDR settings and they turned my 1080p picture quality (on my Epson 4000) from pretty-darn-good to simply gorgeous.
I had did some minor tweaking, the biggest being I had to up the brightness some, and I just oogle every time I watch something on it.

Many many thanks to Adam for digging them up for me and for Orcus' hard work in coming up with them. When I get a chance, I'll try Neil's SDR settings since I have so many available memory slots to fill up.

It's tough for me to conceive how HDR is even better, but no doubt it is. Another very happy owner of this model line and it's offspring.
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So I just ordered the Epson 4040

- I am currently using a pt-ae7000 WITH A dARBEE 5000

- should I sell the Darbee along with the Panasonic Projector or would it be useful for the 4040. Seems the 4040 has tricks of it's own like the obvious pixel shifting.

I did see a few comments on this but they were older so just any updates on this question.

Thanks...

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So I just ordered the Epson 4040

- I am currently using a pt-ae7000 WITH A dARBEE 5000

- should I sell the Darbee along with the Panasonic Projector or would it be useful for the 4040. Seems the 4040 has tricks of it's own like the obvious pixel shifting.

I did see a few comments on this but they were older so just any updates on this question.

Thanks...

Any thoughts.
Keep the darbee for now and see for yourself. I currently still use my Oppo 103d with darbee for bluray’s. With it set at 35% and Epson enhancement I like the picture.

This picture is 1080p bluray with 4k eshift off, enhancement on 3, and 35% darbee. The screen is 115” diy spandex.

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So do I just keep my xbox x at 4k uhd under settings or should i do the 1080 and have the 4k box checked? Or does it not really matter when playing a 1080p bluray? (***Figured this out***)

Also watching blue PLANET II using the linker.. shows how 8bit sucks with all the banding..

Tried planet earth II and very noticable banding.. I really hope it's just from streaming it on Netflix. Guess I'll go buy the disc and see or this PJ is getting sent back.. that's if they accept it since I already took the UPC off the box for the mail in rebate for the free replacement lamp..

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Hey everyone, I just got a 5040ub and I'm trying to determine where to mount this thing. Room is 14 wide, 23 long, 8 ft ceilings. Part of the issue is that I'm not sure on the screen size yet, but I'll be doing either 138" CIH or 158" CIH. I want to mount and project on the empty wall first and play with the seating locations and the screen size before I get the screen. I'm trying to use the Projector Central calculator below, but not really understanding it. Is my goal to get it so it's in the green area? at 21 ft, 138" screen, 2.39, it's right on the edge of the green pattern.

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Any advice? Ideally I would like to mount it flush with the ceiling (8 ft ceilings) about 20-21 feet back from the screen wall.

Can someone point me in the right direction? Thanks in advance!
So you probably have this figured out already, but I have a similar room: 21' long, 15 ft wide, 9ft ceiling front half, 8 ft ceilings back half. (it's a dedicated room in the basement and had HVAC runs to deal with) I have a 2.38 CIH acoustic screen @ 167"x70". My projector is mounted at 19'6" back and about 7' high. I put the projector at the distance needed to fit the 16x9 image in the center of the screen at that 70" height w/o any zoom to maximize brightness. So you can use the calculator to figure out the closest to the screen you need to be to fit the 16x9 area (w/o zooming), then fix that screen height and distance in the calculator and change the screen ratio to 2.35 to see if it will zoom to fill the width of the screen and still provide decent brightness. Like I said above for me the closest I could be w/o zooming was 19' 6" Any closer and I'd have to zoom to fit both 16:9 and 2.38:1, Any further back and I would have not been able to fit the 16:9 image on my screen.

So for your situation at 21' back those screens might actually be to small to fit the 16x9 image. You might have to go bigger screen or put the projector closer.

Hope this helps,

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It's tough for me to conceive how HDR is even better, but no doubt it is.

It really is. Like you, I now use Orcus and Neil's settings for SDR but Orcus and Rob's settings for HDR are outstanding. I'm sure Neil's will bring even more to the party. With so many available memory spaces for settings, this projector can look incredible with SDR, HDR and with all types of content at the press of a couple of buttons.
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- should I sell the Darbee along with the Panasonic Projector or would it be useful for the 4040. Seems the 4040 has tricks of it's own like the obvious pixel shifting.
Keep it. I have a 5000S I use with my 4000 and definitely prefer it. Haven't tried it with 4k source yet (I don't have any) but it is better with 1080p source.
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It really is. Like you, I now use Orcus and Neil's settings for SDR but Orcus and Rob's settings for HDR are outstanding. I'm sure Neil's will bring even more to the party. With so many available memory spaces for settings, this projector can look incredible with SDR, HDR and with all types of content at the press of a couple of buttons.
HI - If possible do you have Robs HDR settings handy? I use a version of Orcus settings for Bright Cinema and as long as I increase the brightness closer to 70 for certain movies it looks great on my low gin spandex screen!
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HI - If possible do you have Robs HDR settings handy? I use a version of Orcus settings for Bright Cinema and as long as I increase the brightness closer to 70 for certain movies it looks great on my low gin spandex screen!
Post #16381 has Rob's HDR settings amongst others.
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Keep it. I have a 5000S I use with my 4000 and definitely prefer it. Haven't tried it with 4k source yet (I don't have any) but it is better with 1080p source.
I've been using a Darbee for years and its really a great addition, but it won't process 4K.
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I agree, Darbee is a great piece of technology, I have it built into my Lumagen but I really do wish they would bring out a version that supports 4K as I don't use it any more but I would love to do so. It really does sharpen the image without it looking over processed.


For those of you that are trying to calibrate your Epson's HDR modes with CalMAN I believe with lots of help from ConnecTEDDD & Dominic Chan over on the calibrating HDR on Epson 5040/6040 projectors thread we have found a bug in which CalMAN reports erroneous readings when using the BT.2390 gamma formulation.


I have lost about a week to this bug as I could not work out why CalMAN was reporting a perfect grayscale but when viewing content it looked very green.


I hope they get this fixed as I have reported it & this helps anyone finding themselves facing the same issue.
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I modified my settings a little more. Had too much red in dark skin tones...

Tried to lower red in the offset, but didn’t help much. Red offset is now at 47. Problem seems to be yellow in the cms. I changed the tint to 35.

Crawling towards perfection...
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Can you provide the full list of your lost current settings? Not sure if anything else changed since I last made the PDF for ya.. if not I can create a new one based on these two setting changes

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The rest should be the same as your pdf, but it can still change some more. Checking with a lot of material and fine tuning...
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Keep it. I have a 5000S I use with my 4000 and definitely prefer it. Haven't tried it with 4k source yet (I don't have any) but it is better with 1080p source.
These projectors do a pretty good job with UHD discs and that led me to the decision to sell my OPPO 103D and buy a Panasonic DP-UB820 with its HDR Optimizer. I sold the OPPO for the same amount the new 820 cost me. No regrets (other than the step down in build quality and its lack of network player capabilities). Very good picture for both SDR and HDR content.
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I've been using a Darbee for years and its really a great addition, but it won't process 4K.
Is yours a 5000s? I had read from various reviews/users that although it's not supposed to work with 4k, it does. But some people, although it worked, get weak signal problems when they use it on 4k.
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buy a Panasonic DP-UB820 with its HDR Optimizer.
Someday I'll probably pick one of these up or something similar, when they drop in price. My current HT processor can't pass 4k, so I'd have to go straight to the projector with the 2nd HDMI out (or upgrade my processor, but that's a little ways down the road).
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I modified my settings a little more. Had too much red in dark skin tones...

Tried to lower red in the offset, but didn’t help much. Red offset is now at 47. Problem seems to be yellow in the cms. I changed the tint to 35.

Crawling towards perfection...
please explain....tint went from 100 to 35?
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Washed out image, help!

I’m using a 135” silver ticket screen, white... light controlled room, though ceiling is white. I'm also at a 19 foot throw distance... Epson calculators say 16-27ft throw distance so I'm near the low end so 19 should be fine.

I’ve tried a half dozen different calibrations (thanks for help on that here), used a calibration disk etc, and I still end up with a picture that lacks contrast and is washed out.

It seems at this point it’s got to be the screen or the white ceiling?

Here are a couple pics of my setup, it's hard to simulate what the screen looks like with a photo but this is pretty close...

will a SI Slate or Elite Cinegrey 5D fix this problem? Any other ideas? thanks!
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Paint the ceiling or better yet some velvet 4 or 5 feet out makes a huge difference .I have a black ceiling 12 feet high so my screen is farther from the ceiling than yous ,however i have put up 6 feet of velvet and it makes it much better then just flat black paint.You have a great looking room and all depends on what you do in there,if its just for movies the paint color is really hurting the picture quality if its a lights on rec room kinda thin maybe you can do a little darker and that would help.Check out the thread the blacker the theater the better I think its called lots of go tips in there for light control
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please explain....tint went from 100 to 35?


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Sorry if this has been answered before, I tried to search for it, but couldn't find a definitive answer...

UBe - the wireless transmitter - how well does it work for those using it? I understand it needs to be in FRONT of the projector to work. My questions are the following:
  1. What is the max distance to still get a solid signal?
  2. Can the transmitter be lower than where the projector is mounted? (for example, center channel level with the PJ being ceiling mounted)
  3. Is there any delay or lipsync issues and are they correctible in the PJ (or do you use the AVR to fix delay)?

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Sorry if this has been answered before, I tried to search for it, but couldn't find a definitive answer...



UBe - the wireless transmitter - how well does it work for those using it? I understand it needs to be in FRONT of the projector to work. My questions are the following:
  1. What is the max distance to still get a solid signal?
  2. Can the transmitter be lower than where the projector is mounted? (for example, center channel level with the PJ being ceiling mounted)
  3. Is there any delay or lipsync issues and are they correctible in the PJ (or do you use the AVR to fix delay)?



Thanks in advance.


The UBe transmitter is great but it does need a direct line of sight within about 25 feet or less but it can be lower then the projector. As you can see in the pic below my transmitter is on my media stand. IME it has no lag or sync issues and the image is just as crisp as when I connect a device to it with a cable.



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I’m using a 135” silver ticket screen, white... light controlled room, though ceiling is white. I'm also at a 19 foot throw distance... Epson calculators say 16-27ft throw distance so I'm near the low end so 19 should be fine.

I’ve tried a half dozen different calibrations (thanks for help on that here), used a calibration disk etc, and I still end up with a picture that lacks contrast and is washed out.

It seems at this point it’s got to be the screen or the white ceiling?

Here are a couple pics of my setup, it's hard to simulate what the screen looks like with a photo but this is pretty close...

will a SI Slate or Elite Cinegrey 5D fix this problem? Any other ideas? thanks!
For a quick test grab a few $5 black flat bed sheets from Walmart. Pin them up on the ceiling and side walls to see.
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The UBe transmitter is great but it does need a direct line of sight within about 25 feet or less but it can be lower then the projector. As you can see in the pic below my transmitter is on my media stand. IME it has no lag or sync issues and the image is just as crisp as when I connect a device to it with a cable.



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