Official Epson 5040ub/6040ub owners thread - Page 558 - AVS Forum | Home Theater Discussions And Reviews
Forum Jump: 
 26963Likes
Reply
 
Thread Tools
post #16711 of 18205 Old 01-27-2019, 06:27 PM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
Gruson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: DALLAS, TX
Posts: 1,831
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 98 Post(s)
Liked: 18
Can someone explain how the 5040 handles a 1080p signal? Does it upconvert to the faux 4K? Plus how does it handle a 4K signal? Downcoverts to faux 4K? I know each source material is different but there are times I swear the 1080p version is better.

Comparing multiple 4K materials from TouTube, 4K movie files, etc through a shield set at 4K display and xbox one x at 4K

Also, in settings, the 4K enhancement is greyed out? Why is thst?

Sometimes I’ll compare with the Xbox set at 1080p instead of 4K and not seeing a huge difference between it being set at 4K either. I’m assuming the Epson is upconverint it which is why.

Amazing projector. Looks so good no matter what I throw at it

Last edited by Gruson; 01-27-2019 at 06:35 PM.
Gruson is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #16712 of 18205 Old 01-27-2019, 06:56 PM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
Gruson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: DALLAS, TX
Posts: 1,831
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 98 Post(s)
Liked: 18
I think I see now. It does enhance 1080p to 4K. I see that now when using a 1080p source. It isn’t greyed out then. No wonder everything looks so good.
Gruson is offline  
post #16713 of 18205 Old 01-27-2019, 07:05 PM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
Gruson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: DALLAS, TX
Posts: 1,831
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 98 Post(s)
Liked: 18
So another question. Is it best to play it back in 1080p and let the Epson upconvert it to 4K? It should I change my Shield settings to 4K? Curious what people think is the best way to get maximum quality.
Gruson is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #16714 of 18205 Old 01-28-2019, 12:56 PM
Advanced Member
 
ayrton's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Sacramento, Karlifornia
Posts: 785
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 72 Post(s)
Liked: 72
Video didn't fill screen

Last evening I watched "The Abyss" on DVD on my Sammy 8500 and later on my OPPO 203.

The video didn't come close to filling my screen. (16:9) The display looked like 16:9 but had huge gaps top, bottom and both sides. I am aware of some videos done in other aspect ratios. (Black/Grey bars)

I've watched a ton of videos, DVD, 1080P Blu Rays and 4K UHD and never had this happen.


Any ideas?? TIA, ayrton
muad'dib likes this.

Nice Stuff!
ayrton is offline  
post #16715 of 18205 Old 01-28-2019, 01:40 PM
Senior Member
 
Natrix1973's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 273
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 72 Post(s)
Liked: 54
Quote:
Originally Posted by ayrton View Post
Last evening I watched "The Abyss" on DVD on my Sammy 8500 and later on my OPPO 203.

The video didn't come close to filling my screen. (16:9) The display looked like 16:9 but had huge gaps top, bottom and both sides. I am aware of some videos done in other aspect ratios. (Black/Grey bars)

I've watched a ton of videos, DVD, 1080P Blu Rays and 4K UHD and never had this happen.


Any ideas?? TIA, ayrton

It is an older non-anamorphic disk so it will look like that on any display unless you stretch the image.
ayrton likes this.
Natrix1973 is offline  
post #16716 of 18205 Old 01-28-2019, 01:43 PM
Newbie
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Posts: 2
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Liked: 0
No signal

Hi there,
Newbie here so please bear with me. I am setting up my new home theater and following is my setup.

Denon avr-X6400
Epson 5040UB

I am connecting a roku ultra to the Denon receiver and Denon to 5040UB HDMI1. No matter what I try, I still get the "No Signal". The audio plays just fine but no signal from the projector. When Roku is connected directly to the projector, it works fine so I know the projector is working fine. But when the same roku is connected through the Denon receiver, I get no signal. I tried with another Blue ray player but still get no signal. I am running a 30 feet fiber HDMI cable that runs in the ceiling. When roku is connected through this cable directly through projector, it projects the menu but doesn't play any videos. I am thinking that the cable is the issue here and may not be HDCP2.2 compatible. I am using the HDMI 2.0 fiber cable.

Source is connected to the Roku/Receiver and the display to the projector. Any pointers on what I am doing? Do I need to use a different cable? Any help is greatly appreciated. Thank you!!
[email protected] is offline  
post #16717 of 18205 Old 01-28-2019, 04:54 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 365
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 242 Post(s)
Liked: 28
I have read that when iris is closed, you get much better contrast in a threated/optimal room. Can someone tell me if the iris is opened or closed when Iris Lens are set to -20? Thanks!

Skickat från min SM-G960F via Tapatalk
westbergjoakim is offline  
post #16718 of 18205 Old 01-28-2019, 04:55 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 365
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 242 Post(s)
Liked: 28
Quote:
Originally Posted by nielvm View Post
So here are my newly calibrated HDR settings



Force SDR



Cinema

Brightness 48

Contrast 100

Saturation 80

Tint 50



Color temp 5/3 custom

49

50

50

50

46

22



Gamma



0;-11;-18;-18;-18;-14;-7;+6;0



CMS



R 67 37 50

G 38 40 50

B 80 50 50

C 58 31 50

M 67 58 50

Y 50 72 50



Image enhancement mode 5

Medium lamp

Iris normal

Super white off
Are this your "gamma -2" calibrated settings?

Skickat från min SM-G960F via Tapatalk
westbergjoakim is offline  
post #16719 of 18205 Old 01-28-2019, 06:22 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: KC
Posts: 23
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 13 Post(s)
Liked: 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by [email protected] View Post
Hi there,
Newbie here so please bear with me. I am setting up my new home theater and following is my setup.

Denon avr-X6400
Epson 5040UB

I am connecting a roku ultra to the Denon receiver and Denon to 5040UB HDMI1. No matter what I try, I still get the "No Signal". The audio plays just fine but no signal from the projector. When Roku is connected directly to the projector, it works fine so I know the projector is working fine. But when the same roku is connected through the Denon receiver, I get no signal. I tried with another Blue ray player but still get no signal. I am running a 30 feet fiber HDMI cable that runs in the ceiling. When roku is connected through this cable directly through projector, it projects the menu but doesn't play any videos. I am thinking that the cable is the issue here and may not be HDCP2.2 compatible. I am using the HDMI 2.0 fiber cable.

Source is connected to the Roku/Receiver and the display to the projector. Any pointers on what I am doing? Do I need to use a different cable? Any help is greatly appreciated. Thank you!!
Have you made sure that the HDMI cable is not a unidirectional cable that is simply installed backwards? I only ask because I have first hand knowledge of a guy that made that exact mistake and it took him a while to troubleshoot it. 🤣
Drinky is offline  
post #16720 of 18205 Old 01-28-2019, 09:43 PM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
WynsWrld98's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 1999
Location: Puyallup, WA
Posts: 3,091
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 575 Post(s)
Liked: 217
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gruson View Post
So another question. Is it best to play it back in 1080p and let the Epson upconvert it to 4K? It should I change my Shield settings to 4K? Curious what people think is the best way to get maximum quality.
I find the setup confusing. I don't want to set the Shield to 1080p because the Epson can handle 4K so when something is truly in 4K I want it to pass 4K, but if something is native 1080p I want it passed as 1080p. I'm not seeing a "use native" for display selection because that's what I want.
WynsWrld98 is offline  
post #16721 of 18205 Old 01-28-2019, 09:48 PM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
Gruson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: DALLAS, TX
Posts: 1,831
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 98 Post(s)
Liked: 18
Yes. That’s what I was thinking too, wish it could playback like that..
WynsWrld98 likes this.
Gruson is offline  
post #16722 of 18205 Old 01-28-2019, 10:12 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 240
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 154 Post(s)
Liked: 73
Quote:
Originally Posted by westbergjoakim View Post
Are this your "gamma -2" calibrated settings?

Skickat från min SM-G960F via Tapatalk


More or less. I simulated a -2 gamma as custom gamma and made some adjustements.
nielvm is offline  
post #16723 of 18205 Old 01-29-2019, 03:47 AM
Member
 
Juboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 123
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 34 Post(s)
Liked: 89
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gruson View Post
Can someone explain how the 5040 handles a 1080p signal? Does it upconvert to the faux 4K? Plus how does it handle a 4K signal? Downcoverts to faux 4K? I know each source material is different but there are times I swear the 1080p version is better.

Sometimes I’ll compare with the Xbox set at 1080p instead of 4K and not seeing a huge difference between it being set at 4K either. I’m assuming the Epson is upconverint it which is why.

Yeah, same here. I don't watch anything less than 1080p on my 9300w (6040ub) and at the distance I watch there's really very little difference between 1080p and the faux-4K in terms of image quality - in the positive sense that 1080p looks as good as 2160p. The only time it's really noticeable is when there is lettering on screen (such as road signs, shop displays or labels on items etc.), those appear sharper and easier to read when it's displaying a 2160p source.



It's a glass half-full type thing. I sometimes wish UHD showed a significant jump in quality but on the flip side it's nice to know the PJ makes 1080p look so good.
bluer101 likes this.
Juboy is offline  
post #16724 of 18205 Old 01-29-2019, 06:34 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 365
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 242 Post(s)
Liked: 28
Quote:
Originally Posted by nielvm View Post
More or less. I simulated a -2 gamma as custom gamma and made some adjustements.
Thanks! It's looking great, even better then your first HDR settings that I also like! I also had problem with the first gamma -2, this one are much better!

Skickat från min SM-G960F via Tapatalk
westbergjoakim is offline  
post #16725 of 18205 Old 01-29-2019, 09:21 AM
Newbie
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Posts: 2
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Liked: 0
Quote:
Originally Posted by Drinky View Post
Have you made sure that the HDMI cable is not a unidirectional cable that is simply installed backwards? I only ask because I have first hand knowledge of a guy that made that exact mistake and it took him a while to troubleshoot it. 🤣
Thanks, yes, the cable is directional and it is connected properly. Source to the Roku and display to the Projector.
[email protected] is offline  
post #16726 of 18205 Old 01-29-2019, 09:26 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 240
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 154 Post(s)
Liked: 73
Quote:
Originally Posted by westbergjoakim View Post
Thanks! It's looking great, even better then your first HDR settings that I also like! I also had problem with the first gamma -2, this one are much better!

Skickat från min SM-G960F via Tapatalk


Glad you like te settings!
nielvm is offline  
post #16727 of 18205 Old 01-29-2019, 11:30 AM
Senior Member
 
jjwinterberg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: So. Cal.
Posts: 331
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 102 Post(s)
Liked: 64
Quote:
Originally Posted by [email protected] View Post
Thanks, yes, the cable is directional and it is connected properly. Source to the Roku and display to the Projector.

The best troubleshooting method I know of is to simplify the system until you get something that works. Then you add in components one at a time until you find where the problem is.


I would recommend that you connect the Roku directly to the projector and see if you get a signal. If you do then you know that there is something in how the receiver is configured. If you don't get a signal with just the Roku then you can try configuration settings on the Roku.


There is a Roku app that allows you to setup the unit even if you don't get a signal to the projector. One of the things that the Roku ultra does is it tries to maximize the image compatible with your system. It could be that the ultra is configured for a signal that is not supported. You will know if you connect it directly to the pj.
jjwinterberg is offline  
post #16728 of 18205 Old 01-29-2019, 12:16 PM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
bluer101's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: South Florida
Posts: 2,411
Mentioned: 13 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 638 Post(s)
Liked: 743
Quote:
Originally Posted by Juboy View Post
Yeah, same here. I don't watch anything less than 1080p on my 9300w (6040ub) and at the distance I watch there's really very little difference between 1080p and the faux-4K in terms of image quality - in the positive sense that 1080p looks as good as 2160p. The only time it's really noticeable is when there is lettering on screen (such as road signs, shop displays or labels on items etc.), those appear sharper and easier to read when it's displaying a 2160p source.



It's a glass half-full type thing. I sometimes wish UHD showed a significant jump in quality but on the flip side it's nice to know the PJ makes 1080p look so good.
I’m with you also. I watch a lot of blurays more than 4K disks. I actually prefer on the 5040 watching the blurays in 1080p with 4K enhancement off and image enhancement setting 3 or 4. I just don’t see enough of a difference with 4K on this projector to warrant all the messing around with settings to achieve a decent picture.

With bluray I just pop it in and enjoy the movie.
bluer101 is offline  
post #16729 of 18205 Old 01-29-2019, 12:41 PM
Senior Member
 
avtoronto's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Toronto. Canada
Posts: 207
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 161 Post(s)
Liked: 64
Quote:
Originally Posted by bluer101 View Post
I’m with you also. I watch a lot of blurays more than 4K disks. I actually prefer on the 5040 watching the blurays in 1080p with 4K enhancement off and image enhancement setting 3 or 4. I just don’t see enough of a difference with 4K on this projector to warrant all the messing around with settings to achieve a decent picture.

With bluray I just pop it in and enjoy the movie.
There is a lot to be said for this. The world of HDR and endlessly fiddling with various settings is exhausting.

Elunevision 4K 112" Audioweave motorized screen, Epson Pro Cinema 4040 projector, Emotiva XPA-5 amplifier, Denon AVR X4400h receiver, XTZ M6 LCR, XTZ S5 surround, XTZ 1X12 and Definitive Technology Powerfield subwoofers, RSL C34E Atmos speakers, Apple TV 4K, Panasonic DP-UB820
avtoronto is offline  
post #16730 of 18205 Old 01-29-2019, 06:22 PM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
gene4ht's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Troy, MI
Posts: 3,998
Mentioned: 66 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1988 Post(s)
Liked: 2691
Quote:
Originally Posted by Juboy View Post
Yeah, same here. I don't watch anything less than 1080p on my 9300w (6040ub) and at the distance I watch there's really very little difference between 1080p and the faux-4K in terms of image quality - in the positive sense that 1080p looks as good as 2160p. The only time it's really noticeable is when there is lettering on screen (such as road signs, shop displays or labels on items etc.), those appear sharper and easier to read when it's displaying a 2160p source.

It's a glass half-full type thing. I sometimes wish UHD showed a significant jump in quality but on the flip side it's nice to know the PJ makes 1080p look so good.
Quote:
Originally Posted by bluer101 View Post
I’m with you also. I watch a lot of blurays more than 4K disks. I actually prefer on the 5040 watching the blurays in 1080p with 4K enhancement off and image enhancement setting 3 or 4. I just don’t see enough of a difference with 4K on this projector to warrant all the messing around with settings to achieve a decent picture.

With bluray I just pop it in and enjoy the movie.
Quote:
Originally Posted by avtoronto View Post
There is a lot to be said for this. The world of HDR and endlessly fiddling with various settings is exhausting.
It appears we're in the same camp. However, because of my red/green color blindness, there's no point in my "fiddling." Funny, I've never touched the "out of box" settings in two years and have never heard a single comment/complaint from family/friends about color fidelity or resolution . The overwhelming comments were about the great/fabulous color and image! I completely understand the breadth of this hobby...the really OCD among us continually chase the holy grail of color, contrast, HDR perfection, etc. and are distracted by image imperfections however small. This leaves the group to which I belong. Maybe it's due to my color vision shortcomings but I'm not at all distracted by the aforementioned. Bottom line, my use case is watching movies from all sources while thoroughly enjoying the image that this PJ throws! Of course...YMMV!
bluer101 likes this.

Epson: 5040UB | Elite: 115" Fixed Frame CinemaScope (2.35:1) | Onkyo: TX-RZ920 + M-5010 (7.2.4) | Klipsch: RF-7 II's, RC-64 II, RS-62 II, RB-61 II MICCA: M-8C (Atmos) x 6 | SVS: PB16-Ultra x 2 | Philips: BDP7501, Panasonic: DMP UB900, Oppo: UDP-203
gene4ht is offline  
post #16731 of 18205 Old 01-29-2019, 07:22 PM
Senior Member
 
avtoronto's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Toronto. Canada
Posts: 207
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 161 Post(s)
Liked: 64
Quote:
Originally Posted by gene4ht View Post
It appears we're in the same camp. However, because of my red/green color blindness, there's no point in my "fiddling." Funny, I've never touched the "out of box" settings in two years and have never heard a single comment/complaint from family/friends about color fidelity or resolution . The overwhelming comments were about the great/fabulous color and image! I completely understand the breadth of this hobby...the really OCD among us continually chase the holy grail of color, contrast, HDR perfection, etc. and are distracted by image imperfections however small. This leaves the group to which I belong. Maybe it's due to my color vision shortcomings but I'm not at all distracted by the aforementioned. Bottom line, my use case is watching movies from all sources while thoroughly enjoying the image that this PJ throws! Of course...YMMV!
Perhaps it is an "OCD" tendency...but really I would be happy to 'set and forget'. SDR material is fine and I don't change those settings often. HDR on the other hand is a nightmare. I mean the settings that work on an iTunes streamed HDR film don't work when playing a UHD disc from my Panasonic 820. In fact I get varying experiences from one iTunes HDR film to another. It's not just that the colours don't look good; it's having really washed out portions of a scene or having scenes too dark to see detail that should be visible. So I find I have various memory slots taken up with HDR settings that I scan through to find the best one for selected HDR content.

Elunevision 4K 112" Audioweave motorized screen, Epson Pro Cinema 4040 projector, Emotiva XPA-5 amplifier, Denon AVR X4400h receiver, XTZ M6 LCR, XTZ S5 surround, XTZ 1X12 and Definitive Technology Powerfield subwoofers, RSL C34E Atmos speakers, Apple TV 4K, Panasonic DP-UB820
avtoronto is offline  
post #16732 of 18205 Old 01-29-2019, 08:20 PM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
gene4ht's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Troy, MI
Posts: 3,998
Mentioned: 66 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1988 Post(s)
Liked: 2691
Quote:
Originally Posted by avtoronto View Post
It's not just that the colours don't look good; it's having really washed out portions of a scene or having scenes too dark to see detail that should be visible. So I find I have various memory slots taken up with HDR settings that I scan through to find the best one for selected HDR content.
From the beginning, I understood that PJ’s we’re not ready for HDR prime time...images were going to be too dark due to insufficient lumens. PJ’s have a technological challenge to overcome. I do not fault others for attempting to improve conditions with tweaks and work arounds...but I choose to accept what is and can wait for the eventual solution. Add to this, the fact that studios and content distributors are still in various stages of their HDR learning curve and to my knowledge there are no standards in place. This is likely the reason there is no one setting fits all. This is also the reason I’m completely satisfied with SDR and allowing 1080 to be upscaled. Set and forget ain’t here...yet! Again...YMMV.

Epson: 5040UB | Elite: 115" Fixed Frame CinemaScope (2.35:1) | Onkyo: TX-RZ920 + M-5010 (7.2.4) | Klipsch: RF-7 II's, RC-64 II, RS-62 II, RB-61 II MICCA: M-8C (Atmos) x 6 | SVS: PB16-Ultra x 2 | Philips: BDP7501, Panasonic: DMP UB900, Oppo: UDP-203
gene4ht is offline  
post #16733 of 18205 Old 01-29-2019, 08:28 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2017
Posts: 479
Mentioned: 13 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 365 Post(s)
Liked: 251
I really don’t understand what everyone’s issue is with HDR once one is using a proper 1000 nit calibration. I have no issues viewing any streaming content, playing games via my Xbox one x or watching a uhd Blu-ray via my Ub820 (set on the middle 1000nit display type). I feel like you all are running into issues because you’re fiddling with the settings myself and others have posted and not correcting for any changes this introduces to the black and white clipping points. If you make sure the full 1000 nit patterns are displaying after your fiddling you should have no issues and be able to display any 1000 nit source correctly.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Dave Harper and AdamAttewell like this.
OrcusVaruna is offline  
post #16734 of 18205 Old 01-29-2019, 10:41 PM
Senior Member
 
avtoronto's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Toronto. Canada
Posts: 207
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 161 Post(s)
Liked: 64
Quote:
Originally Posted by OrcusVaruna View Post
I really don’t understand what everyone’s issue is with HDR once one is using a proper 1000 nit calibration. I have no issues viewing any streaming content, playing games via my Xbox one x or watching a uhd Blu-ray via my Ub820 (set on the middle 1000nit display type). I feel like you all are running into issues because you’re fiddling with the settings myself and others have posted and not correcting for any changes this introduces to the black and white clipping points. If you make sure the full 1000 nit patterns are displaying after your fiddling you should have no issues and be able to display any 1000 nit source correctly.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Well I try not to fiddle with your settings much. Are you using SDR/2020 or HDR/2020 from the Panny?

Elunevision 4K 112" Audioweave motorized screen, Epson Pro Cinema 4040 projector, Emotiva XPA-5 amplifier, Denon AVR X4400h receiver, XTZ M6 LCR, XTZ S5 surround, XTZ 1X12 and Definitive Technology Powerfield subwoofers, RSL C34E Atmos speakers, Apple TV 4K, Panasonic DP-UB820
avtoronto is offline  
post #16735 of 18205 Old 01-29-2019, 10:47 PM
 
Dave Harper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Paradise on Earth
Posts: 6,554
Mentioned: 62 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3159 Post(s)
Liked: 1723
Quote:
Originally Posted by OrcusVaruna View Post
I really don’t understand what everyone’s issue is with HDR once one is using a proper 1000 nit calibration. I have no issues viewing any streaming content, playing games via my Xbox one x or watching a uhd Blu-ray via my Ub820 (set on the middle 1000nit display type). I feel like you all are running into issues because you’re fiddling with the settings myself and others have posted and not correcting for any changes this introduces to the black and white clipping points. If you make sure the full 1000 nit patterns are displaying after your fiddling you should have no issues and be able to display any 1000 nit source correctly.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Agreed and well said! I am absolutely stunned every time I play HDR on my LK970 and was very pleased with my other projectors with HDR like the 5040, various Sonys and other Epsons and a couple JVCs.

If they saw what I see with HDR, they’d never make the negative confusing comments about it that I see here.
OrcusVaruna likes this.
Dave Harper is offline  
post #16736 of 18205 Old 01-30-2019, 02:52 AM
Member
 
Juboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 123
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 34 Post(s)
Liked: 89
Quote:
Originally Posted by OrcusVaruna View Post
I really don’t understand what everyone’s issue is with HDR once one is using a proper 1000 nit calibration.

I agree with you re. HDR, I have seven of my memory slots allocated to various HDR settings (yours included) and I generally know which one will likely work best for the given content I'm about to watch. HDR on this projector works very well once dialed in, although I do believe it's worth having several setting options to ensure you're getting the best out of it.


HDR is still my preferred choice for viewing on the projector, be it from a Netflix or disc source.
OrcusVaruna likes this.
Juboy is offline  
post #16737 of 18205 Old 01-30-2019, 03:59 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2017
Posts: 479
Mentioned: 13 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 365 Post(s)
Liked: 251
Quote:
Originally Posted by avtoronto View Post
Well I try not to fiddle with your settings much. Are you using SDR/2020 or HDR/2020 from the Panny?


HDR 2020 set to the middle 1000 nit display setting. I personally find my custom gamma curves for my screen/environment consistently outperform the 820s curves.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
OrcusVaruna is offline  
post #16738 of 18205 Old 01-30-2019, 04:02 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2017
Posts: 479
Mentioned: 13 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 365 Post(s)
Liked: 251
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Harper View Post
Agreed and well said! I am absolutely stunned every time I play HDR on my LK970 and was very pleased with my other projectors with HDR like the 5040, various Sonys and other Epsons and a couple JVCs.

If they saw what I see with HDR, they’d never make the negative confusing comments about it that I see here.


Well said yourself! Once I figured out what I was doing calibrating low nit displays for HDR it really is a revelatory viewing experience.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Dave Harper and monkaquinas like this.
OrcusVaruna is offline  
post #16739 of 18205 Old 01-30-2019, 04:51 AM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
Lesmor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Scotland
Posts: 1,119
Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 765 Post(s)
Liked: 336
Quote:
Originally Posted by OrcusVaruna View Post
HDR 2020 set to the middle 1000 nit display setting. I personally find my custom gamma curves for my screen/environment consistently outperform the 820s curves.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
I must be confused as I thought you sold it
Do you still have your projector?
Lesmor is offline  
post #16740 of 18205 Old 01-30-2019, 06:49 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2017
Posts: 479
Mentioned: 13 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 365 Post(s)
Liked: 251
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lesmor View Post
I must be confused as I thought you sold it

Do you still have your projector?


Yes I do, I just moved recently. It would take a projector with a high lumen solid state light source at a reasonable price to get me to dump the 5040 for something else.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Lesmor and biga6761 like this.
OrcusVaruna is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply Digital Projectors - Under $3,000 USD MSRP

Tags
5040ub power , atmos

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page


Forum Jump: 

Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off