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A friend of mine has just setup madVR on his HTPC for HDR dynamic tone mapping etc.. He has an Epson 9300 which I believe is a 5040ub model. Can someone who has the Epson recommend which settings to choose on the projector please? Thank you so much
I just bought a HTPC and am a 5040 owner, am intrigued. When I Google madVR tons of links come up, can you please let me know exact madVR to look for or a link to a download? When I go to MadVr's website here's what it says:

Media players supporting madVR: (sorted alphabetically)

· DVB Dream
· DVBViewer
· Fast Video Cataloger
· GameEx
· JRiver MediaCenter
· KMPlayer
· Kodi DSPlayer
· MediaPortal 1
· MPC-BE
· MPC-HC
· PotPlayer
· ProgDVB
· SmartDVB
· YAP
· Zoom Player
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Hi folks,

Long time reader, first time poster. I took a chance with an official Epson refurb'd 5040UB and it arrived last week.

The difference between my previous Epson 8350 and this projector on a 130' screen is just mind blowing. Netflix's new "Our Planet" documentary series just jumps off the screen. It's practically eyeball melting!

That being said, I was cautious about a refurb and unfortunately soon noticed the following. See image below.



I'm assuming it's dust blobs? Or maybe something worse?

Advice on how to proceed?
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Hello. I am in the process of setting up my home theater and just purchased the Epson 5040ub. I haven't mounted it or anything yet, but did project an image on the wall just to test out the projector. I am having difficulty getting HDR and am wondering if I am missing a setting or something.

I have tested with an Apple TV4k and an NVIDIA Shield TV, both running through a Marantz SR7010. I am using a 20m Ruipro Fiber HDMI Cable.

When I check video settings on the Apple TV4k, it was set to 60hz SDR. When I try to Enable HDR.....the screen goes blank, but then it times out and resets back to it's original settings.

I then ran the HDMI cable directly to the projector from the Apple TV4k (bypassing the Marantz SR7010). Same result.

I then moved the projector next to my components and used a 2m HDMI cable (high speed w/ ethernet) directly from the Apple TV4k to the projector. Same result.

I've not messed with my projector settings at all. I did check, and the Signal/Advanced settings are all set to auto (video range, color space, and dynamic range).


I am guessing that I am missing something, I just can't figure out what it is. Any thoughts? Thanks....
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The 5040ub isn't able to handle 4K 60Hz HDR. The most you will get from the Apple TV 4K is 4K 60Hz SDR.

It will display 4K 24Hz HDR which is what most movies are encoded at.
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The 5040ub isn't able to handle 4K 60Hz HDR. The most you will get from the Apple TV 4K is 4K 60Hz SDR.

It will display 4K 24Hz HDR which is what most movies are encoded at.
Ahhh.....thank you! At least now I know that my 20m HDMI cable works then.
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Hi folks,

Long time reader, first time poster. I took a chance with an official Epson refurb'd 5040UB and it arrived last week.

The difference between my previous Epson 8350 and this projector on a 130' screen is just mind blowing. Netflix's new "Our Planet" documentary series just jumps off the screen. It's practically eyeball melting!

That being said, I was cautious about a refurb and unfortunately soon noticed the following. See image below.



I'm assuming it's dust blobs? Or maybe something worse?

Advice on how to proceed?
Personally I'd call Epson and request a replacement. If your refurb is still in warranty you should get a replacement, and Epson is really fast with shipping. I had to get a refurb 5040 myself after my 1st 5040 failed and the one they sent me was like-new and has performed perfectly. Unless its maybe a blob of dust on the outside of the lens, I'd not do anything (like blowing compressed air inside) at risk of making things worse.

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Thanks for the suggestion. That was the direction I was heading in.

A few tiny specs here and there I could probably live with but not this.
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So I called and was told there are no replacements to send. I have to wait for availability!
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So I called and was told there are no replacements to send. I have to wait for availability!
So you have to wait for someone else’s 5040 to break and hope they fix it properly. Brilliant, Epson.
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I thought the same thing! We'll see what happens I guess.
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Purchased the 5040 on 4/18/17. So I'm in warranty by 5 days. I used the projector last weekend, everything was fine. I use it almost every weekend, never a problem. Tonight, I go to use, and it says no signal, no matter what I do. Move the HDMI cord over to input 2, and it works. Anyone ever seen this issue? I'll call Epson as soon as they are open. But in the mean time, I went to their website to check the warranty status, and it says it expired on 2/27/19. Reading their warranty, it says 2 years from purchase date. I have the reciept dated 4/18/17 from projector people. I'm assuming they will use that date? Any other advise?
The HDMI1 input stopped working on my 6040 after about a year. Epson sent me a refurb (actually two refurbs, the first had a dust blob), and I haven't had any issues since.
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The HDMI1 input stopped working on my 6040 after about a year. Epson sent me a refurb (actually two refurbs, the first had a dust blob), and I haven't had any issues since.


Yep. Called them yesterday. New one will be here tomorrow.


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A friend of mine has just setup madVR on his HTPC for HDR dynamic tone mapping etc.. He has an Epson 9300 which I believe is a 5040ub model. Can someone who has the Epson recommend which settings to choose on the projector please? Thank you so much [IMG class=inlineimg]/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif[/IMG]
JRiver user here. Has MadVR built in, highly recommend it.

If you have a surround system, JRiver does some wizardry in the audio department too.
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JRiver user here. Has MadVR built in, highly recommend it.

If you have a surround system, JRiver does some wizardry in the audio department too.
Do you know I have always been intrigued to try to setup Jriver but it seems to be very confusing. Is there a how to guide at all? Also does it play bdmv and iso files?

What kind of wizardry does it do in the audio department? I may need to look into jriver

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Are there any of you utilizing an app to control your 5040 from an iPad? Is there one? If so, is it any good?

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Are there any of you utilizing an app to control your 5040 from an iPad? Is there one? If so, is it any good?


I can use an app on my phone or iPad to control my Logitech remote, than them controls my projector. I never use the app though. It’s easier just to use the Logitech remote.


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JRiver user here. Has MadVR built in, highly recommend it.
I, too, experimented with a Kodi installation, adding MadVR support, but found the JRiver solution MUCH easier to implement and with very good results.
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Do you know I have always been intrigued to try to setup Jriver but it seems to be very confusing. Is there a how to guide at all? Also does it play bdmv and iso files?

What kind of wizardry does it do in the audio department? I may need to look into jriver

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If you use the Red October plug-in, it's very much plug and play in my experience.

https://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/Red_October
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@boblinds & @dataJunkie

What video card are you guys using for your J-River + Madvr setup?

Mainly just looking to upgrade my GPU in order to use HDR auto tone mapping via MADVR (4K @24hz). Don’t really need extra image sharpening or enhancements, and definitely no gaming.

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So I called and was told there are no replacements to send. I have to wait for availability!


Called tonight and they had one on hand to send me. Try again

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Do you know I have always been intrigued to try to setup Jriver but it seems to be very confusing. Is there a how to guide at all? Also does it play bdmv and iso files?

What kind of wizardry does it do in the audio department? I may need to look into jriver

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I gave up on JRiver and went with Plex a few months ago. What a difference. JRiver is like a science a project, and the UI, to me, is maddening. It's just not worth the time and frustration. Cheers.

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Are there any of you utilizing an app to control your 5040 from an iPad? Is there one? If so, is it any good?
I use SimpleControl on my iPhone with their Ethernet IR blaster.

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JRiver user here. Has MadVR built in, highly recommend it.

If you have a surround system, JRiver does some wizardry in the audio department too.
Do you know I have always been intrigued to try to setup Jriver but it seems to be very confusing. Is there a how to guide at all? Also does it play bdmv and iso files?

What kind of wizardry does it do in the audio department? I may need to look into jriver

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I've tried various platforms for playback - Plex, VLC, Windows MP, MP-HC etc, but every one lacked in the audio department compared to JRiver.

However they accomplish it, JRiver manages to squeeze so much more clarity and oomph out of the audio tracks than anything else I've tried. So much so that I've had to turn down my system a notch when running comparison tests.
It's not just pure volume tho, the detail within the audio, from bass management to the timbre of breaking glass, it's just so much more refined through JRiver.

Maybe it's because JRiver originally was for audiophile FLAC playback for music, dunno...but it certainly makes a difference to my ears.

Ive a GTX1070, and their video processing manages to squeeze more depth in the picture too.

Yes, it can be a little overwhelming swimming in all the settings, but that to me is a tinkerers dream ...lol

There are plenty of guides to help you while away a weekend tweaking and optimising....https://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/MadVR_Expert_Guide
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What video card are you guys using for your J-River + Madvr setup?

Mainly just looking to upgrade my GPU in order to use HDR auto tone mapping via MADVR (4K @24hz). Don’t really need extra image sharpening or enhancements, and definitely no gaming.
I've a GTX1070, and JRiver works just fine with it. Rendering settings set to 'Jinc' with minimum additional optimisation.

Few read-ahead buffers max's out and that's about it.

(The guide I posted earlier will give you a breakdown of the various Scaling Algos / Rendering options - Jinc, Bi-linear, Nearest Neighbour etc)
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Are there any of you utilizing an app to control your 5040 from an iPad? Is there one? If so, is it any good?
It's called Epson iProjection and is OK, but a little clunky. For example you can load memory slots, but the names you give them on the projector aren't shown in the app. If network connected, these projectors also respond to PJLINK commands, so any controller that offers PJLINK works. I have a simple Homebridge plugin that lets allows Siri to control the projector though PJLink. So far it's just for on/off, but PJLINK also allows switching inputs, etc.
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Thanks for the heads up.

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I got a fire tv 4k but wont do 24hz.

I'm guessing i should get something like nvidia shield ?
I need something that runs android & allows apk.
Was watching game of thrones on hbo go but it was 8 bit.
any 4k/hdr device under 200$ that can do 10bit 4.2.2 etc?

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I gave up on JRiver and went with Plex a few months ago. What a difference. JRiver is like a science a project, and the UI, to me, is maddening. It's just not worth the time and frustration. Cheers.
I can't disagree. JRiver's interface is inferior to both Kodi and Plex, IMO. But its audiovisual performance is far superior, also IMO.
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@boblinds & @dataJunkie

What video card are you guys using for your J-River + Madvr setup?

Mainly just looking to upgrade my GPU in order to use HDR auto tone mapping via MADVR (4K @24hz). Don’t really need extra image sharpening or enhancements, and definitely no gaming.
I'm using a 750 TI, but I'm only in 1080p, so that may not be helpful info for your situation. I do have an i5 processor, however, which enables the high level of Red October plug-in performance.

My ideal configuration would be to use KODI as the frontend and JRiver as an external player, but for whatever reason, I've never had success realizing that configuration (though others seem to have done so successfully.)
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Official Epson 5040ub/6040ub owners thread

Interested in how many people have a Panny UB820 paired with the Epson, and what your settings are on the Epson for both HDR on the UB820 and SDR2020 on the UB820. Ive been reading various posts on the 820 forum about ensuring the projectors are set to 2.4 gamma when doing SDR2020 but not sure what settings on the Epson provide 2.4 gamma. Is it just a change in the gamma setting to like a -1 or -2, or is it a combination of this and choosing a color mode like Cinema, or even tweaking the HDR setting to an Auto 1 or Auto 2.

Any guidance is greatly appreciated. As an FYI, I’ve tried all kinds of settings for this pj from Harpervision, Oledurt, etc. and while I do have some presets that I like I want to make sure I’m setting everything up correctly with the UB820.


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