Originally Posted by sgranger45
Hi and thanks in advance for the help!
I have decided to purchase the 5040UB but realize I will need to upgrade my Yamaha amp (circa 2010) that only supports 1080P HDMI to effectively use the 4K enhancement capability of the new Epson projector.
I am new to the projector world and obviously this will be my first big 4K UHD purchase. I am coming up to speed on HDMI 2.0a, HDCP 2.2 and HDR content (it's a lot of numbers and makes my brain hurt!). Coming from the IT world, I know that having the correct path through the network with each component handshaking an playing nice with it's upstream and downstream neighbor is really important.
I have been reviewing the Denon AVR-X2300W and the Yamaha RX-A1050. In addition to the Epson 5040, I will be pairing the AVR with Definitive Technology 8040ST L/R speakers, the Definitive CS8040HD center channel speaker and the Definitive 8040BP surrounds. I have a Klipsch 10 inch powered sub to throw in the mix if the DT 8040's built in ones aren't enough. I will also have cables in place to expand from 5.1. to 7.1 when appropriate (meaning I pay off all this other gear!)
Content sources are Comcast X1 Cable (yuck, I know), the new Roku Ultimate 4K streaming device (when released this month), an OTA HD antenna in attic for locals (need some type of digital receiver), and possibly a 4K DVD player.
Also, since the projector to rack is about 30 ft., I have been advised to use Cat7 cable and HDMI converters on each end. I'd like to have the ones the use PPoE so I can just power the units at the rack and not the projector for a cleaner install. I am struggling with the right devices to buy here. (I plan to run 2 HDMI cables to utilize the 5040's PiP feature for sports). Should I be running any other cables between the 5040 and the rack? LAN cable, etc.?
So I appreciate any advice or recommendations on the AV receiver or HDMI signal drivers. And of course, anything I left out too!
P.S. I settled on a 110 inch screen with a centered viewing area from about 13.5 feet away. I think (hope) that's a great size! Lots of people on this forum have a tendency to "go bigger" on the screen thing! (not judging!)
Thanks much for reading!
Because the 5040 can't accept a signal anything greater than 10.2 gbps (enough for 4k @ 24hz @ 10 bit), you don't really need to worry that much about the cable or go down the HDMI converter at your 30ft length. I'm using a 35 ft Monoprice Cabernet cable from my AVR to the PJ without any issues, and there's a decent chance that cable will also work someday when I get a projector that can accept an 18gbps signal. Monoprice says it will support 18gbps up to 50ft but you never know.
Regarding your screen size, this is something I debated for a long time and eventually went as big as my room would allow (150" 16:9 format) with the plan of masking it down if it was too big. My eyes in the front row are 13' from the screen and a 2:35 widescreen movie looks just right at that distance, very immersive but not too close. I couldn't be happier and I think I would have been disappointed if I had gone smaller. So glad the 5040 can put out enough lumens to light up a 150" screen, although my room is 100% light controlled so your mileage may very if you have to deal with sunlight. I think 110" is too small, I'd push to go at least 130" and mask it down if it's too big.
Regarding receivers, you have a ton of options and it's hard to go wrong as long as it supports HDCP 2.2 you'll be fine. The big question you need to ask yourself is whether or not to go atmos / dts:x, which will be on all those 4k UHD disks you plan to buy... it's relatively cheap to put speakers in your ceiling if you're a little handy and the extra layer of immersion is worth it in my room (I have a 7.2.4 setup and I'm loving it). Using that many speakers shorten the list of receivers though and the price increases a lot... I picked up a close-out Denon x6200w that powers 9 channels and a 60wpc 2-channel amp for $100 from parts express to power the rear ceiling speakers. The Denon has great amps with tons of power, but the cost to get 11 channels of processing is a lot higher than a normal 7.1 receiver, but if you're in the market for a $3k PJ then I'd say you should also be in the market for a full atmos setup if you want to get the most from the experience. I really believe the audio is just as, if not more, important than the video when getting the full cinema experience. And the dolby surround and DTS neural x upconverters for non-atmos blu-rays are amazing... you will enjoy all of your blu-rays (and TV) more with overhead speakers. Imagine watching a football game and it literally sounding like you're in the crowd! Good luck with all your decisions...