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Hi All - Just received my refurb 5040ub today. Hooked it up and it appears lens shift is not working. Zoom and focus work fine, but lens shift does not work - the picture does not move at all. I've tired using the remote and the bottons on the projector. There's no sound from the projector's lens when attempting to adjust lens shift.

Any ideas? I tried searching this thread and came up empty.

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Hi All - Just received my refurb 5040ub today. Hooked it up and it appears lens shift is not working. Zoom and focus work fine, but lens shift does not work - the picture does not move at all. I've tired using the remote and the bottons on the projector. There's no sound from the projector's lens when attempting to adjust lens shift.



Any ideas? I tried searching this thread and came up empty.


On my unit you have to hold the lens shift button about 2 seconds before it begins to move. Sorry hold it for a few seconds. — and try moving it in all four directions. It’s possible you may be maxed out in one direction. Also try reducing zoom to less than max if you are maxed before you lensshift

Finally you may try reset all under options and try lens shift first thing.





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Anyone with the Chief CHF2500 mount? I got mine in from Ebay but can't seem to figure out where the screws are for the ceiling mount portion? The manual doesn't even show any screws for the ceiling mount and nothing in the box.
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Anyone with the Chief CHF2500 mount? I got mine in from Ebay but can't seem to figure out where the screws are for the ceiling mount portion? The manual doesn't even show any screws for the ceiling mount and nothing in the box.


For the x shaped piece? You may just have to buy “lag bolts” for the ceiling joist.

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For the x shaped piece? You may just have to buy “lag bolts” for the ceiling joist.
Yes the X shaped circle thing since I assume that's what mounts to the ceiling.Do you have a link to the ones you recommend? Trying to buy everything before a professional installer comes this weekend.
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Anyone with the Chief CHF2500 mount? I got mine in from Ebay but can't seem to figure out where the screws are for the ceiling mount portion? The manual doesn't even show any screws for the ceiling mount and nothing in the box.
I have this mount and I honestly don't know if it came with mounting screws. I don't have any in the box. Honestly I wouldn't use them anyways. You should always use the proper fastener for the substrate rather than just generic screws, especially when you are mounting a projector! I also suggest using lag bolts into your studs/joists. Or you could make an adapter plate (lag bolts from plate to studs/joists, wood screws from mount to plate if wood, machine screws if using a tapped aluminum plate).

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Yes the X shaped circle thing since I assume that's what mounts to the ceiling.Do you have a link to the ones you recommend? Trying to buy everything before a professional installer comes this weekend.


No super specific screw necessary. Take the base plate to Home Depot or the hardware store of your choice and ask them to point you to the lag bolt (aka lag screw) section. Pick something that fits in the mounting holes. Your installer can probably handle this if you aren’t comfortable with picking the bolt.

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Would any of you 5040 guys spend an extra $1400-$1700 for a 5050 over this unit?

Really struggling with the decision - asking in the 5050 thread of course I get spinning heads and 100% worth it comments and that the 2 are like night and day etc.

This would of course be a used 5040 (or refurb from Epson if I can win the refurb lottery on their site).

Current user of a 4+ year old Epson 3000 that I have had no issues with that I recall and I am on my second bulb.


Mostly worried about having to spend hours on end dialing in the 5040 whereas the 5050 seems basically solid out the box from what I am reading. That and I guess I am being a cheap a$$ about dropping 3k on the 5050 (guess I am getting old - either that or those tuition payments have finally kicked me in the nuts enough at this point )

Anyway just looking for current users thoughts.


FYI my only experience with 4k has been seeing pics, seeing in stores. We do have an LG 4k set in our bedroom which looks pretty good on some shows (very lifelike - almost too much so that it appears fake) but no colors don't always seem right. Granted this is just comcrap and some streaming via amazon (Game of Thrones mainly).

Also we have no need or any worry about 4k gaming. Only gaming in there is some old school Xbox 360 Rock Band just dance. Everything in there is Blurays, regular comcrap TV, and streaming via TIVO Bolt or amazon fire. Oh and lots of plex too

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Anyone with the Chief CHF2500 mount? I got mine in from Ebay but can't seem to figure out where the screws are for the ceiling mount portion? The manual doesn't even show any screws for the ceiling mount and nothing in the box.
I used lag screws in mine which is similar to your mounting situation. (Lag bolts aren’t pointed and you’ll need nuts. So lag screws are better in this situation imo)
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Would any of you 5040 guys spend an extra $1400-$1700 for a 5050 over this unit?



Really struggling with the decision - asking in the 5050 thread of course I get spinning heads and 100% worth it comments and that the 2 are like night and day etc.



This would of course be a used 5040 (or refurb from Epson if I can win the refurb lottery on their site).



Current user of a 4+ year old Epson 3000 that I have had no issues with that I recall and I am on my second bulb.





Mostly worried about having to spend hours on end dialing in the 5040 whereas the 5050 seems basically solid out the box from what I am reading. That and I guess I am being a cheap a$$ about dropping 3k on the 5050 (guess I am getting old - either that or those tuition payments have finally kicked me in the nuts enough at this point )



Anyway just looking for current users thoughts.





FYI my only experience with 4k has been seeing pics, seeing in stores. We do have an LG 4k set in our bedroom which looks pretty good on some shows (very lifelike - almost too much so that it appears fake) but no colors don't always seem right. Granted this is just comcrap and some streaming via amazon (Game of Thrones mainly).



Also we have no need or any worry about 4k gaming. Only gaming in there is some old school Xbox 360 Rock Band just dance. Everything in there is Blurays, regular comcrap TV, and streaming via TIVO Bolt or amazon fire. Oh and lots of plex too



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Night and day difference?

The only people saying that are people trying to justify their purchase.

It’s $1200 shipped and taxed for a 5040UB refurb vs $2800 for a 5050UB.

That’s $1600 difference.

The 5050UB is probably 10-15% better than the 5040UB from what I read.

I can’t think of any generational product that’s worth 233% more money than the previous gen. The 5050UB doesn’t break that line of thinking.

Unless $1600 is throw away money for you grab the 5040UB and don’t look back.

Also note that the next big thing is HDMI 2.1, and the 5050UB doesn’t have it. I had decided I didn’t really want to spend $3500 range in a JVC projector that didn’t have HDMI 2.1 - when that tech is probably one year out — same applies here to the 5040UB.

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Night and day difference?

The only people saying that are people trying to justify their purchase.

It’s $1200 shipped and taxed for a 5040UB refurb vs $2800 for a 5050UB.

That’s $1600 difference.

The 5050UB is probably 10-15% better than the 5040UB from what I read.

I can’t think of any generational product that’s worth 233% more money than the previous gen. The 5050UB doesn’t break that line of thinking.

Unless $1600 is throw away money for you grab the 5040UB and don’t look back.

Also note that the next big thing is HDMI 2.1, and the 5050UB doesn’t have it. I had decided I didn’t really want to spend $3500 range in a JVC projector that didn’t have HDMI 2.1 - when that tech is probably one year out — same applies here to the 5040UB.
Thanks I am probably not going to try the refurb lottery but instead purchased used for a tad more.

That being said where is the 5050 for $2800 I haven't seen it at that price point

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Thanks I am probably not going to try the refurb lottery but instead purchased used for a tad more.

That being said where is the 5050 for $2800 I haven't seen it at that price point

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Night and day difference?

The only people saying that are people trying to justify their purchase..
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I’m having real bad luck with dust blobs on these refurb 5040UB

Has anyone opened one up and tried to fix it themselves? Are there instructions for such. I got an otherwise good refurb the third try now that didn’t start with a bad dust blob, but 10 hours in now and it’s got a big one on the top right... ughhh. The first two had dust blobs immediately out the refurb box. It’s under warranty of course, but It’s not easy to get these refurb units replaced. You have to catch them when they have them in stock, just as if you were trying to buy one the first time. My room/house is not overly dusty. It doesn’t make sense.


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Would any of you 5040 guys spend an extra $1400-$1700 for a 5050 over this unit?

Really struggling with the decision - asking in the 5050 thread of course I get spinning heads and 100% worth it comments and that the 2 are like night and day etc.

This would of course be a used 5040 (or refurb from Epson if I can win the refurb lottery on their site).

Current user of a 4+ year old Epson 3000 that I have had no issues with that I recall and I am on my second bulb.


Mostly worried about having to spend hours on end dialing in the 5040 whereas the 5050 seems basically solid out the box from what I am reading. That and I guess I am being a cheap a$$ about dropping 3k on the 5050 (guess I am getting old - either that or those tuition payments have finally kicked me in the nuts enough at this point )

Anyway just looking for current users thoughts.


FYI my only experience with 4k has been seeing pics, seeing in stores. We do have an LG 4k set in our bedroom which looks pretty good on some shows (very lifelike - almost too much so that it appears fake) but no colors don't always seem right. Granted this is just comcrap and some streaming via amazon (Game of Thrones mainly).

Also we have no need or any worry about 4k gaming. Only gaming in there is some old school Xbox 360 Rock Band just dance. Everything in there is Blurays, regular comcrap TV, and streaming via TIVO Bolt or amazon fire. Oh and lots of plex too

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For an answer from someone who actually owned a 5040 and now a 5050, the upgrade was worth it TO ME. Its not a 2nd coming of Christ or anything, but HDR is greatly improved, and that's what I wanted. I previously would not use Digital Cinema for any HDR as it was too dim for my tastes, and I could never quite get the 5040 calibrated to the point that I was happy with the result. With the 5050, Digital Cinema is 100% useful now--not too dim, great color and depth...it's my go-to for 4K HDR and even PS4 Pro HDR games. I'm also now out from under the cloud of the 5040's power supply issue (which I did experience as well)...and no, I obviously cannot predict what issues the 5050 may have in the future.

The one real point armchair reviewers are right about it that no, it wasn't cheap...but for me it was worth it.

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For an answer from someone who actually owned a 5040 and now a 5050, the upgrade was worth it TO ME. Its not a 2nd coming of Christ or anything, but HDR is greatly improved, and that's what I wanted. I previously would not use Digital Cinema for any HDR as it was too dim for my tastes, and I could never quite get the 5040 calibrated to the point that I was happy with the result. With the 5050, Digital Cinema is 100% useful now--not too dim, great color and depth...it's my go-to for 4K HDR and even PS4 Pro HDR games. I'm also now out from under the cloud of the 5040's power supply issue (which I did experience as well)...and no, I obviously cannot predict what issues the 5050 may have in the future.

The one real point armchair reviewers are right about it that no, it wasn't cheap...but for me it was worth it.
Yeah the PS issues are a deep concern obviously.

And your comments about getting the picture on the 5040 right are my other concern. I truly don't have hours on end to spend tweaking settings and changing things. I have too much going on in life to deal with that and I want to be able to sit down and enjoy my watching not go that isn't right let me fiddle with this and that etc. And of course the family wouldn't have a clue what the fuss would be about either.

I definitely do not want to deal with refurb roulette on the 5040 either. Just reading about how many people have had to swap theirs out is ridiculous. If I wanted to spend 5k+ I would look at Sony or JVC but that is not my budget range at all so its the 5050 (max budget), used 5040 or 4010 (which I have kind of ruled out as the 5040 seems a fair bit better) or I stick stick with my 4 year old Epson 3000 and do w/o.

For once I am being real stingy about spending money on my HT - crazy I know. Guess I need to hope someone puts the 5050 on sale would love one right at $2500 if possible. I missed the ones at $2799 which isn't tremendous but every little bit helps.

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I’m having real bad luck with dust blobs on these refurb 5040UB

Has anyone opened one up and tried to fix it themselves? Are there instructions for such. I got an otherwise good refurb the third try now that didn’t start with a bad dust blob, but 10 hours in now and it’s got a big one on the top right... ughhh. The first two had dust blobs immediately out the refurb box. It’s under warranty of course, but It’s not easy to get these refurb units replaced. You have to catch them when they have them in stock, just as if you were trying to buy one the first time. My room/house is not overly dusty. It doesn’t make sense.

I have small dust blob on my refurb 5040UB that I just received. It is not really visible during movie play. Wondering if it is worth it to exchange and play Epson refurb roulette again since their QA/QC process is subpar plus you have to wait for in stock refurb to get replacement.
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I recently purchased a 5040 and was wondering if anyone had links to calibrations for Image Enhancement Settings? I used Spears and Munsils calibration disk but I'm curious if anything more advanced will increase picture quality. I have a light controlled HT with a 1.1 gain white screen, for what its worth. Thank you.
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I recently purchased a 5040 and was wondering if anyone had links to calibrations for Image Enhancement Settings? I used Spears and Munsils calibration disk but I'm curious if anything more advanced will increase picture quality. I have a light controlled HT with a 1.1 gain white screen, for what its worth. Thank you.
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I have small dust blob on my refurb 5040UB that I just received. It is not really visible during movie play. Wondering if it is worth it to exchange and play Epson refurb roulette again since their QA/QC process is subpar plus you have to wait for in stock refurb to get replacement.

Par for the course. You just have to keep sending them back. I had 4 refurb replacements, and a fifth new, all of which had something wrong with them. Yes, Epson is fast on turnaround for defective units, but they're replacing crap with crap.
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Par for the course. You just have to keep sending them back. I had 4 refurb replacements, and a fifth new, all of which had something wrong with them. Yes, Epson is fast on turnaround for defective units, but they're replacing crap with crap.


Why do they do this??? They aren’t even fast about replacing them anymore. Gone is overnight shipping. Worse yet is they have none in stock to replace. You have to catch a refurb in stock in order to replace it. Otherwise they just offer you a refund. That means I’m trying to watch the for sale page as often, and in competition with anyone else trying to buy one. P.S. lthey only last minutes in stock, and they seem to come into stock just a couple times a week. I’ve got multiple alerting systems setup for in stock notification so I can try to catch the time to call in for RMA. They inexplicably will NOT hold a unit for you for RMA anymore. My third one is going back now. This is NOT good customer service, nor is it a pleasant buying experience. This will be my last Epson, unless they significantly change in the future.

1st refurb Epson - purchased early April, pink discoloration in top right corner. It also has two minor dust blobs, but I was figuring I could live with them. They were relatively faint.


2nd refurb Epson RMA replacement - six dust blobs on black image straight out of box - terrible. Boxed it back up immediately, no way I’m keeping that.


3rd refurb Epson RMA replacement - thought was good. 10 hours in a single bright dust blob appears in top right. Where did that come from? It’s going back. Dust blobs are luckily covered under warranty, but now I’ve got concerns that these 5040UBs are just a problem waiting to happen with future dust blobs popping up and ruining the experience when the projector falls out of warranty in 2 years. I have a blacked out theater room. Bright dust blobs are unacceptable to me as a projector owner.

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The dust blobs on most of the refurbs (two of mine had them out of the box) is proof to me that all they do to pass QC is turn it on to make sure it fires up. Anyone with 15 minutes of training could look at the image and reject it.



Also, the open "light engine" is a big fat fail. Dust happens, and if your fan is sucking it in, even through a filter, it's going to get in there.
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I have some faint pink discoloration on white on the right half of mine but its not anywhere as bad as your picture, very faint. I think that's the only thing wrong with mine so I'm going to keep it.
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Hi all,

In Australia you can get the 6040UB (EH-TW9300) for half the price compared to the new 6050UB (EH-TW9400). Is it worth getting the 6040UB at half the cost? Or is the 6050UB worth paying the extra for?

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Replacement Bulb Help

I need to replace my bulb, however the replacement bulb did not come with an "Epson Screwdriver" any recommendations on what I can use to open up my 5040UB?

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Finally got my 5040UB ceiling mounted about 19' away from the screen and unfortunately it seems to be short of the 150" of my screen, maybe gets to around 130-140" with there being distance on the top/bottom. Anyone have any ideas for me or a setting I could maybe change? Unfortunately can't mount it back any further.
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I need to replace my bulb, however the replacement bulb did not come with an "Epson Screwdriver" any recommendations on what I can use to open up my 5040UB?

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Huh?

Any number 1 or number 2 Phillips head screwdriver will work just fine.

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Are the people having dust issues just 5040 model or both?
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Huh?

Any number 1 or number 2 Phillips head screwdriver will work just fine.

Thanks....it was easy....I was being overly cautious.
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Hi all,

In Australia you can get the 6040UB (EH-TW9300) for half the price compared to the new 6050UB (EH-TW9400). Is it worth getting the 6040UB at half the cost? Or is the 6050UB worth paying the extra for?

Cheers,
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Hi Zolt,
I got my 9300w about 3 months ago for about AUD 4k.
Knew the ones were imminent but on an 8ft wide CS screen the differences would be minimal and not worth the substantial price difference.
Been very happy with it.
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