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Whoa! Never heard of anyone doing that.
I meant if i'm watching something and pause it to go do something for like an hour or 2. Or if i'm listening to music, i'll have the projector on when i could just turn it off.
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I meant if i'm watching something and pause it to go do something for like an hour or 2. Or if i'm listening to music, i'll have the projector on when i could just turn it off.
I don’t turn it off either, if I plan to use it again in an hour or two. I’d rather minimize the on/off cycles than a few hours of lamp time.
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I don’t turn it off either, if I plan to use it again in an hour or two. I’d rather minimize the on/off cycles than a few hours of lamp time.
Just curious...I know you’ve had an Epson in the past, but why continue to visit this thread when you’ve moved on to JVC?

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This. I gave up on my Roku once Prime finally fixed their Apple app. Set to SDR/24 with rate and range set to match, and go. My Sony has the same HDMI limitation, and no banding, ever. Once in a while for foreign material shot at 50Hz, you have to go in and set it to 25, which takes all of 30 seconds, but otherwise, a great match if you can't do HDR/60.
Why set to SDR/24 vs HDR/24? Have you tried Disney+? Curious if getting 4K HDR Atmos with Disney+ on the Epson.
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This. I gave up on my Roku once Prime finally fixed their Apple app. Set to SDR/24 with rate and range set to match, and go. My Sony has the same HDMI limitation, and no banding, ever. Once in a while for foreign material shot at 50Hz, you have to go in and set it to 25, which takes all of 30 seconds, but otherwise, a great match if you can't do HDR/60.
Why set to SDR/24 vs HDR/24? Have you tried Disney+? Curious if getting 4K HDR Atmos with Disney+ on the Epson.
Because setting it to HDR/24 introduces “fake” HDR to SDR source material and menus. That’s why you set dynamic range to match. It keeps SDR material in SDR, and switches to HDR as needed.
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curious how everyone turns on their Projector and devices (xbox or shield). I've had odd issues with my 5040ub when turning it on lately where it spins fans for awhile and sometimes the lens will close after having the fans spin so high, sometimes i have to turn it off completely. On two occasions i saw the orange lamp light come on during the "boot up". I notice that if i turn on the xbox "delayed" while turning on the projector i get this behavior. If i turn on the xbox on first and let it boot up alone then turn on the projector it doesn't do this. I have my AVR boot up automatically with the Projector as well if that makes a difference. I had applied the new firmware (1.14) to see if that would help and at first i thought it did but it still does it. Anyone else have this issue?
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curious how everyone turns on their Projector and devices (xbox or shield). I've had odd issues with my 5040ub when turning it on lately where it spins fans for awhile and sometimes the lens will close after having the fans spin so high, sometimes i have to turn it off completely. On two occasions i saw the orange lamp light come on during the "boot up". I notice that if i turn on the xbox "delayed" while turning on the projector i get this behavior. If i turn on the xbox on first and let it boot up alone then turn on the projector it doesn't do this. I have my AVR boot up automatically with the Projector as well if that makes a difference. I had applied the new firmware (1.14) to see if that would help and at first i thought it did but it still does it. Anyone else have this issue?
As you’ve seen in recent posts, these random, odd, behaviors have been experienced by many owners...going back years. To date, Epson has yet to publicly acknowledge any of these unusual behaviors nor do they provide a valid/plausible explanation when contacted at various levels of their technical support organization. Again, this is the reason I continue to post concern for Epson’s lack of consumer communication.
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As you’ve seen in recent posts, these random, odd, behaviors have been experienced by many owners...going back years. To date, Epson has yet to publicly acknowledge any of these unusual behaviors nor do they provide a valid/plausible explanation when contacted at various levels of their technical support organization. Again, this is the reason I continue to post concern for Epson’s lack of consumer communication.
so this is the "norm" on these odd behaviors, and at that point should i push for a replacement or is this happening even on replacements? i wonder if the 5050 has these issues.
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so this is the "norm" on these odd behaviors, and at that point should i push for a replacement or is this happening even on replacements? i wonder if the 5050 has these issues.
Owners of models preceding the 5040/6040 have repeatedly reported these odd behaviors...chief among them is the high speed fan at start up for a length of time for no apparent reason or purpose. Because this behavior has transcended multiple model generations, it could possibly be an original design anomaly and never corrected going forward...and thus “accepted” as an oddity but normal since there appears to have no known adverse performance effects. Owners of 5050/6050’s are invited to comment on their units. It would seem prudent to contact Epson support to understand if their position on these anomaly’s result in a more positive response. Good luck with your effort and pursuit!
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Roku won't do 4K HDR directly on a 5040/6040. You'll need an HDFury Linker or similar to get 4K HDR with a Roku. I believe the Nvidia Shield can be set to provide 4K HDR directly to the 5040/6040.


Not true.
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Roku 4k stick lets you chose 4k 30hz SDR for streaming options. That fixed all my Mandalorian HDR issues (and other content HDR) that arose with my Amazon 4k stick that does not let you rid HDR.


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Transplanting my post from the local meets section to here - because the roku is a great match to the 5040’s 4K HDR 10Gbps shortcomings

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Roku 4k stick > Amazon 4K Firestick with my 5040UB projector because I can disable HDR and because it gives Dolby Atmos on Mandalorian on Disney +. (Roku is the only streamer with Dolby Atmos for Mandalorian at the time I write this)

Heres how that Roku 30hz SDR option reveals itself as compared to the default (horribly implemented) 4K HDR on our 5040UB.:


Amazon 4K Firestick - 4K HDR
Mandalorian


No opportunity to chose 30 FPS, nor disable HDR on Firestick





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Roku 4K stick - 4K SDR


More display options on Roku. (Pick any option but the last one depending on your preferences.)

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With regards to HDR viewing, it's definitely possible and worthwhile with this PJ. I've got three different HDR settings saved and one of them works great with The Mandalorian, despite the limitations of the source itself.


I'm able to view both the PJ image and my LG OLED TV image almost next to each other and while the PJ obviously doesn't match the TV, it does a very respectable job.


My 5040UB isn’t even close to OLED quality and the best HDR absent a Panasonic or Oppo 4k bluray player’s abilities that Ive used so far is Harpervision. I’m not really happy with anything HDR after tinkering with this projector for months.


SDR with BT2020 is the answer I’m close to concluding. What am I missing? I’ve not seen anything where HDR looks better on than off when you can match the BT2020 color space for both. I’m curious to your preferences.
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My 5040UB isn’t even close to OLED quality and the best HDR absent a Panasonic or Oppo 4k bluray player’s abilities that Ive used so far is Harpervision. I’m not really happy with anything HDR after tinkering with this projector for months.


SDR with BT2020 is the answer I’m close to concluding. What am I missing? I’ve not seen anything where HDR looks better on than off when you can match the BT2020 color space for both. I’m curious to your preferences.
MadVR will make you a believer in amazing HDR on your 5040.

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My 5040UB isn’t even close to OLED quality and the best HDR absent a Panasonic or Oppo 4k bluray player’s abilities that Ive used so far is Harpervision. I’m not really happy with anything HDR after tinkering with this projector for months.


SDR with BT2020 is the answer I’m close to concluding. What am I missing? I’ve not seen anything where HDR looks better on than off when you can match the BT2020 color space for both. I’m curious to your preferences.
Yes I am starting to agree. Anything in HDR is so dark.
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MadVR will make you a believer in amazing HDR on your 5040.

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How easy is it to setup though? Any guides? I think a came across a guide that was like 10 pages long
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MadVR will make you a believer in amazing HDR on your 5040.

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I have madVR in my JRiver instance. It was setup by a professional and my 5040UB projector calibrated to it. Its not close to an OLED TV.

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Not true.
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Roku 4k stick lets you chose 4k 30hz SDR for streaming options. That fixed all my Mandalorian HDR issues (and other content HDR) that arose with my Amazon 4k stick that does not let you rid HDR.
Awesome, thanks for sharing this! Will definitely save me some coin vs the ATV - I currently have nothing in the Apple ecosystem so wasn't super keen on getting this.

I'm currently using Harpervision SDR conversion in the 5040 with my Panny 820 sending 4k HDR - these settings are looking awesome for 99% of content I've tried. So I could also try the 4k HDR 30hz on the Roku also correct?
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Awesome, thanks for sharing this! Will definitely save me some coin vs the ATV - I currently have nothing in the Apple ecosystem so wasn't super keen on getting this.



I'm currently using Harpervision SDR conversion in the 5040 with my Panny 820 sending 4k HDR - these settings are looking awesome for 99% of content I've tried. So I could also try the 4k HDR 30hz on the Roku also correct?
Correct.
But don’t forget to try 4K 60hz SDR to compare. It simply strips the HDR. You’ll not need Harpervision then.

That 93% satisfied might nudge higher.

The Disney+ Mandalorian forge scene is a great show to compare on.

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Im getting a new streaming device for my 5040. From what ive read on here, the apple tv 4k will send the signal i need, without getting an hdfury, is that correct? What about the shield?
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I have madVR in my JRiver instance. It was setup by a professional and my 5040UB projector calibrated to it. Its not close to an OLED TV.
Sorry I was not implying your going to get oled like hdr on the pj via madVR. You will get hdr on the pj via madVR that is tremendously better than anything else though.

Compromises abound; hdr wins on the oled, but the oled isn't going to immerse you like a ridiculously massive screen will on the pj.

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How easy is it to setup though? Any guides? I think a came across a guide that was like 10 pages long
It's not horrible, but it takes a minute to setup...

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I just bought an EPSON PowerLite Home Cinema 5040UB with version software:

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Video2 7YL28RMV111

Do I need to upgrade?
Thanks in advance.
Hi all,

Same question here. I've got the same version showing on my 8400. The latest firmware listed on the Epson page is 1.01 (http://tech.epson.com.au/downloads/product.asp), which doesn't seem to align with whats installed...
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Not quite right but on the right track. Yellow is a mix or red and green so on a white background means it is missing blue. You have generally eliminated a poor oxidized connection but still could be a connector problem on the blue panel. If out of warranty (you voided it be disassembly anyway) it could be expensive because either its in the main board or the panel it self. Try displaying full screen one color at a time especially blue may help in determining main board or panel.
Thank you for your response. I messed around with the color settings and there appeared to be no change at all in the yellow lines. I then disconnected the blue LCD tape from the main board and the lines disappeared. Does this result point to a connectivity issue on the board or possibly in the blue LCD?
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Hi all,

Same question here. I've got the same version showing on my 8400. The latest firmware listed on the Epson page is 1.01 (http://tech.epson.com.au/downloads/product.asp), which doesn't seem to align with whats installed...
If you go and select projector ->9300, then under 'Drivers & Downloads', select 'all', then right at the bottom you will see 1.14. I'm going to do mine tonight. A bit worried about my settings being messed up though!
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Just as guess it sounds like a driver issue in the main board. With the panel disconnected I think it should pass solid blue light. So disconnecting it points to something in the board stuck on. I am just guessing but I think LCD panels with no voltage connected are clear and with a voltage applied go opaque. Are you disconnecting it with a solid white background?

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If you go and select projector ->9300, then under 'Drivers & Downloads', select 'all', then right at the bottom you will see 1.14. I'm going to do mine tonight. A bit worried about my settings being messed up though!
Ah helps if you look under the correct projector, I've got a 8300, not 8400

Lets us know how you go with the update.
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I just bought an EPSON PowerLite Home Cinema 5040UB with version software:

Main 840076648uwwv113
Video2 7YL28RMV111

Do I need to upgrade?
Thanks in advance.
I posted the above a while ago and it is still not resolved. Anyone know the answer? Many thanks.
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I'm still not happy with my streaming options for this projector. I have the Panny UB820 and a PS4 pro and I can either use the Panny for 1080p HDR or the PS4 pro for 4k no HDR.

I was thinking about picking up the Roku Premiere, does anyone use this and can confirm you can set 24hz for Netflix/Prime rather than 60hz?

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?m...2F142467597344

Thanks!
I just picked up an Apple TV and I'm really impressed at the quality of 4K/SDR. I just set the AppleTV to 4K SDR, turn match frame rate on, and match dynamic range off. That way it will show in 4K if it can, but not show any of it in HDR.

This is the best option I have found after alot of experimenting with other options for HDR and SDR. The only thing lacking is that the AppleTV Youtube app won't show content in 4K, so you need another solution for Youtube 4k, but for Netflix and Disney this is a good option.
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Hello,

I had some basic questions.

1. I have had this projector for about 3 years and it has original firmware. Do I need to upgrade if I am not having issues? If so, which version is most reliable?

2. Do you all see a noticeable difference between upscaled 1080P and 4K on this projector? I did not see a noticeable difference. For some reason the 4k picture seemed a bit dimmer/darker and a bit less vibrant than upscaled 1080P. Possibly needs picture adjustments or maybe something else? I ask because I have to make a decision between losing multi source video switching/pass through from an older non 4K upscaling AVR and using a device like HDFury or just keeping everything integrated/convenient using the AVR or UHD upscaling blu ray player. They both look good to me, but maybe my vision is going bad!


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Just got projector set up and the "Adjust Zoom" is not working but adjust lens shift does. I saw a post further back where they had the opposite problem. Is there a fix or do I just need to send this back in and get another one? Firmware is up to date.
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