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post #18691 of 18948 Old 01-23-2020, 04:32 PM
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Quick question for 5040ub owners will I be able to throw from this room corner because I don't have enough length right infront of the screen but can put it in this corner to be able to reach 12 to 13 feet planning on buying a 115" 2.35:1 silver screen acoustic screen to cover the whole room width and just put the speakers behind the screen.

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Do you even have room above the door, to fit this pj? It is a big pj.

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Help w/ 1.14 Upgrade

Hi Everyone, Many of you have been able to update to 1.14. I have not from 1.13. This is what I am using.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

https://www.costco.com/sandisk-cz600...100290584.html

When I start the procedure the usb drive does not light up and the projector does not seem to go into update mode. Any ideas? Thanks
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Does anyone know how to turn off HDR on a 4k Firestick so I don’t have to deal with it with the limitations of the HDMI 10gbs? I gone into settings and turned HDR to adaptive, but that doesn’t work. Anyone using a firestick with their 5040? ( I have the 4010)


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Does anyone know how to turn off HDR on a 4k Firestick so I don’t have to deal with it with the limitations of the HDMI 10gbs? I gone into settings and turned HDR to adaptive, but that doesn’t work. Anyone using a firestick with their 5040? ( I have the 4010)


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Set your resolution to 4K @60Hz. HDR wont be pass because of the limitation.


Otherwise the projector can play HDR fine at 4K @30Hz or 1080P @60Hz.

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Set your resolution to 4K @60Hz. HDR wont be pass because of the limitation.


Otherwise the projector can play HDR fine at 4K @30Hz or 1080P @60Hz.


Thank you. I will try that tomorrow.

I’ve all but given up on HDR for a projector.


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Do you even have room above the door, to fit this pj? It is a big pj.
I can reverse that door to open outwards... but if it will be too much of a hassle I might just turn my living room into the home theater....

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Eh, what are the dimensions of that room? It looks pretty small for a projector setup.



I think you might be way better off tossing an 85" flat panel in there than the PJ....
Yeah thinking about just turning my living room into a home theater I already have a 65" samsung..... really want to get a projector for the next step up.....

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Eh, what are the dimensions of that room? It looks pretty small for a projector setup.



I think you might be way better off tossing an 85" flat panel in there than the PJ....
Here are the dimensions of the tiny room length 10-10 feet, width 8-9 feet, height 7-8 feet. Will just put it in the living room if it's not feasivle and turn that room into my gym.

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One of the reasons I bought the 5040 was because of stories about unparalleled customer support, so far I have been less than impressed with the low level support team and I've heard nothing but nightmares about the replacement and refurb units and unhappy customers. So far (knock on wood) I have been ok with mine but I'm very worried what the future holds for my $4000 projector. Maybe should have bought the JVC.

Me, too. My 6040 was my second Epson, and customer service is big with me, and I was happy to upgrade to another Epson. Then I started dealing with their quality control. Those new to the thread can search my previous posts here, but the story ends with my selling my fourth defective refurb to a friend with a bar who didn't care about the PQas much as I do, and got a Sony.
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Hi Everyone, Many of you have been able to update to 1.14. I have not from 1.13. This is what I am using.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

https://www.costco.com/sandisk-cz600...100290584.html

When I start the procedure the usb drive does not light up and the projector does not seem to go into update mode. Any ideas? Thanks
You should use the USB port on the PJ, it looks like you're utilizing the service port. Make sure the f/w is at the root of the drive and remains zipped. I also found that USB 2.0 works better that USB 3.0. Hope this helps.

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Hi Everyone, Many of you have been able to update to 1.14. I have not from 1.13. This is what I am using.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

https://www.costco.com/sandisk-cz600...100290584.html

When I start the procedure the usb drive does not light up and the projector does not seem to go into update mode. Any ideas? Thanks
I had the same problem. I tried everything, probably about 5 different USB sticks. I even called support and they said I had a bad unit and they wanted to do a return. The projector lights would come on, and then shut off, and no FW update. Someone posted that the stick had to be FAT32, not FAT, so I even tried to carve out a partition on the stick smaller than 4GB, formatted FAT32, and went that route - didn't work.

In the end, based on suggestions from other forum members, the only thing that worked for me was using an old USB 2.0 drive that had a total size less than 4GB, formatted FAT32. I'm not sure if it has to be USB 2.0, but I think the size will matter. Hope this helps!
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Me, too. My 6040 was my second Epson, and customer service is big with me, and I was happy to upgrade to another Epson. Then I started dealing with their quality control. Those new to the thread can search my previous posts here, but the story ends with my selling my fourth defective refurb to a friend with a bar who didn't care about the PQas much as I do, and got a Sony.
So their refurbished units have a ton of problems maybe I should just go benq or jvc

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I purchased a refurb 5040ub and have been blown away. Hoping the horror stories are a thing of the past and/or a minority. We will see in a year though!

What is the best hd fury device to obtain 4k hdr 10bit 24hz from a xbox one x? Or 4k 60hz 8 bit. That or should I just get a apple tv 4k for movie streaming?
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I purchased a refurb 5040ub and have been blown away. Hoping the horror stories are a thing of the past and/or a minority. We will see in a year though!

What is the best hd fury device to obtain 4k hdr 10bit 24hz from a xbox one x? Or 4k 60hz 8 bit. That or should I just get a apple tv 4k for movie streaming?
It's not a thing of the past. I bought my 5040ub less than a month ago and I'm waiting for my third one.
I hope the next one will be perfect.

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Here are the dimensions of the tiny room length 10-10 feet, width 8-9 feet, height 7-8 feet. Will just put it in the living room if it's not feasivle and turn that room into my gym.

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I would go with the living room.

That room might fit the pj and screen put your also going to have a hard time with proper sound setup/quality in such a small space too.

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When I calibrated my 5040UB using the WOW disc, I did so using Bright Cinema for HDR content and Natural for SDR content. Obviously I was guessing at HDR as I have no idea how to calibrate for that. Does everyone use one input for both HDR and SDR or separate ones?


Also, when watching HDR content, the whites (highlights) seem to be blown out. I'm sure this is due to the HDR not being properly calibrated. Can you copy Bright Cinema so you can have an HDR version that can be visually calibrated using HDR content then have an SDR version for non HDR content that is calibrated with the calibration disc?
try the Spears and Munsil UHD calibration disc. I used it in conjunction with the blue filter from my DVE calibration disc. I calibrated both SDR and HDR and I'm comfortable with the results.
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Me, too. My 6040 was my second Epson, and customer service is big with me, and I was happy to upgrade to another Epson. Then I started dealing with their quality control. Those new to the thread can search my previous posts here, but the story ends with my selling my fourth defective refurb to a friend with a bar who didn't care about the PQas much as I do, and got a Sony.
Yeah, the qc is a complete crap-shoot with these refurb's. My first 5040 refurb displayed half the image blurry no matter what I changed through it's optics. My second one that I ended up keeping has some cosmetic issues on the physical case, but I wasn't willing to risk another lottery pick and end up with something worse.

I also keep in mind that should I have problems later down the road (within the 2 year warranty window) their is a high chance Epson won't have any 5040 units left and so I'll get upgraded to a refurb 5050 unit
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Here are the dimensions of the tiny room length 10-10 feet, width 8-9 feet, height 7-8 feet. Will just put it in the living room if it's not feasivle and turn that room into my gym.

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Way too smal for this pj. It would also be a waste since you can't get a big screen in that room. Heat would probably be a problem also.

This room would be nice for a tv. You would get a better picture and an appropriate size screen.

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Set your resolution to 4K @60Hz. HDR wont be pass because of the limitation.


Otherwise the projector can play HDR fine at 4K @30Hz or 1080P @60Hz.


I just did it but still getting HDR per the menu - 4k/60 8 bit 4:2:2 BT.2020 HDR


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I just did it but still getting HDR per the menu - 4k/60 8 bit 4:2:2 BT.2020 HDR


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Hmm if I remember correctly it did the trick on my Nvidia Shield . . . maybe I'm wrong!
Is the 5040ub force to SDR?

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Hmm if I remember correctly it did the trick on my Nvidia Shield . . . maybe I'm wrong!

Is the 5040ub force to SDR?


I have a 4010, not sure how to force SDR


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I just did it but still getting HDR per the menu - 4k/60 8 bit 4:2:2 BT.2020 HDR


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4K 60Hz HDR at 8bit will fit in 10GB bandwidth, it will not fit in 4K 60Hz HDR in 10bit.
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4K 60Hz HDR at 8bit will fit in 10GB bandwidth, it will not fit in 4K 60Hz HDR in 10bit.


I’m just trying to eliminate HDR alltogether as it’s too washed out and dark compared to regular SDR. I’d like to keep the 4k if possible, with SDR.


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Oh!! Didn't notice that!

You should ask that in the 4010 forum then !!
https://www.avsforum.com/forum/68-di...l#post58916234

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I’m just trying to eliminate HDR alltogether as it’s too washed out and dark compared to regular SDR. I’d like to keep the 4k if possible, with SDR.


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Oh!! Didn't notice that!



You should ask that in the 4010 forum then !!

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/68-di...l#post58916234


Pretend I have the 5040.

Source is 4k Firestick. Trying to stop it from using HDR.

For example, with an Xbox I can simple uncheck HDR10 and all is well.


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Pretend I have the 5040.

Source is 4k Firestick. Trying to stop it from using HDR.

For example, with an Xbox I can simple uncheck HDR10 and all is well.


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Not sure how to strip the HDR and keep the resolution.
The Panasonic UB420/800/9000 has been mentioned in dealing with too dark HDR.
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Pretend I have the 5040.

Source is 4k Firestick. Trying to stop it from using HDR.

For example, with an Xbox I can simple uncheck HDR10 and all is well.


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Alright, upon reading a little.

There's no way on the firestick to fully disable HDR. Adaptive being your best bet.
Adaptive will send HDR signal only if the display supports it.
So like I said before. Try to force SDR on your 4010.
In the 5040ub it's under Signal > Advanced > Dynamic Range
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Yup! It's "normal" !
I don't think they do much quality control unfortunately.
I'm waiting on my third projector . . .
LOL Same. We are probably trading with each other. One point I made, was that I was not going to check a website every day and call THEM. They can call me, and they did, third one should arrive by Mon.
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Pretend I have the 5040.

Source is 4k Firestick. Trying to stop it from using HDR.

For example, with an Xbox I can simple uncheck HDR10 and all is well.


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Alright, upon reading a little.

There's no way on the firestick to fully disable HDR. Adaptive being your best bet.
Adaptive will send HDR signal only if the display supports it.
So like I said before. Try to force SDR on your 4010.
In the 5040ub it's under Signal > Advanced > Dynamic Range
Ooh, that is extremely helpful! So if I force SDR my xbox one x should not have an issue with 4k right?
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