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Question Panasonic PT-AE800U vs Epson 5040ub

Sorry if this has been discussed before ad nauseum, but a quick search didn't show much and I didn't want to go through hundreds of pages in the device threads.

Anyway, quick question for those who have had both the venerable but still kicking, AE8000U, and the newer 5040ub. Is it worth upgrading from the AE8000U to the 5040ub?

My setup is: basement family room/HT which has decent but not complete light control (three smallish windows with blackout roller blinds). Screen is a 110" diagonal Elite Screens Aeon Edge Free with cinewhite. Using that popular Oppo BD player (BD203?) and a Yamaha receiver. Throw distance is only 11'2". Both projectors, per projector central, project the same image size from the same throw distance but since I am at near max image size at this throw distance and the 5040ub is longer/deeper than the AE8000U (by a few inches), I will have to move my mount back a bit. No biggie though really since the 5040ub doesn't have rear air vents.

I like the AE8000U for the overall performance, lens shift, and motorized zoom/focus. It is a bit long in the tooth by now though (bought it in 2013). The 5040ub seems to have gotten great reviews for PJ at its price point, with notable features like improved contrast/blacks and motorized zoom/focus AND lens shift. I care most about those upgrades/features.

Given all that, would it be a reasonable improvement overall? I hate the stiff-at-the-beginning manual lens shift of the AE8000U which makes adjustments a hassle (and I slide my screen out about 18" when using the PJ due to the image being off center because of a stairway next to the screen wall). And I find the blacks to be not impressive on the AE8000U (not calibrated though, I use "cinema 2" usually).

Any thoughts would be appreciated. Price is a consideration of course but not a major factor in my decision making process (at least for the 5040ub).
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I'm of the opinion that if you're happy with something stick with it. If you buy the Epson you may be very happy. Of course you might be just as happy sticking with your Panasonic and upgrading in a couple years when something even better is available.

For years I bought new televisions because I was always hunting the latest and greatest. I get a little sick when I think about how much money I wasted on incremental increases in picture quality. Not saying the 5040 won't be a significant improvement it's just there is always going to be something bigger and better right around the corner.

Sorry for my non-answer. I don't have either of these models I just felt like sharing my 2 cents.

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Sorry if this has been discussed before ad nauseum, but a quick search didn't show much and I didn't want to go through hundreds of pages in the device threads.

Anyway, quick question for those who have had both the venerable but still kicking, AE8000U, and the newer 5040ub. Is it worth upgrading from the AE8000U to the 5040ub?

My setup is: basement family room/HT which has decent but not complete light control (three smallish windows with blackout roller blinds). Screen is a 110" diagonal Elite Screens Aeon Edge Free with cinewhite. Using that popular Oppo BD player (BD203?) and a Yamaha receiver. Throw distance is only 11'2". Both projectors, per projector central, project the same image size from the same throw distance but since I am at near max image size at this throw distance and the 5040ub is longer/deeper than the AE8000U (by a few inches), I will have to move my mount back a bit. No biggie though really since the 5040ub doesn't have rear air vents.

I like the AE8000U for the overall performance, lens shift, and motorized zoom/focus. It is a bit long in the tooth by now though (bought it in 2013). The 5040ub seems to have gotten great reviews for PJ at its price point, with notable features like improved contrast/blacks and motorized zoom/focus AND lens shift. I care most about those upgrades/features.

Given all that, would it be a reasonable improvement overall? I hate the stiff-at-the-beginning manual lens shift of the AE8000U which makes adjustments a hassle (and I slide my screen out about 18" when using the PJ due to the image being off center because of a stairway next to the screen wall). And I find the blacks to be not impressive on the AE8000U (not calibrated though, I use "cinema 2" usually).

Any thoughts would be appreciated. Price is a consideration of course but not a major factor in my decision making process (at least for the 5040ub).
Ive had both. The Epson 5040UB would be a discernable upgrade from the Panasonic AE8000U.
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I'm of the opinion that if you're happy with something stick with it. If you buy the Epson you may be very happy. Of course you might be just as happy sticking with your Panasonic and upgrading in a couple years when something even better is available.

For years I bought new televisions because I was always hunting the latest and greatest. I get a little sick when I think about how much money I wasted on incremental increases in picture quality. Not saying the 5040 won't be a significant improvement it's just there is always going to be something bigger and better right around the corner.

Sorry for my non-answer. I don't have either of these models I just felt like sharing my 2 cents.
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Ive had both. The Epson 5040UB would be a discernable upgrade from the Panasonic AE8000U.
Thank you, can you briefly name the features of the 5040ub you find to be the most impressive or significant compared with the AE8000U?
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I agree with your sentiment, although the consumerism is part of the fun (as a hobby), but it does train the wallet for sure. +1 for the Hitchhiker's quote!



Thank you, can you briefly name the features of the 5040ub you find to be the most impressive or significant compared with the AE8000U?
Wanted to revive this to see if there were any opinions still out there about the difference between these two as i have the Panasonic and am thinking of upgrading to the Epson 5050 whenever that is released in the next short while.
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This is a comparison against the 5030UB. Maybe it helps. https://www.projectorcentral.com/pan...=Image-Quality


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Wanted to revive this to see if there were any opinions still out there about the difference between these two as i have the Panasonic and am thinking of upgrading to the Epson 5050 whenever that is released in the next short while.
Hi, I would say I like the Epson mostly for the features than PQ, but here are some my thoughts:

Improved features of the Epson 5040UB over the Panasonic PT-AE8000U:

- Motorized lens shift. I just HATED using that joystick for lens shift, which for my "HT" setup sometimes needed adjustments, especially as I do a CIH setup, and the joystick was imprecise and I spent too much time making adjustments. Actually, I couldn't do CIH until I got the Epson really.
- Lens shift (and I think focus) memory. For CIH, this is crucial and no other projector seem to have this feature. Don't know about very expensive PJs (e.g. for me that means over $5,000) as I don't look into those much since I'll never buy one probably, but it seems to be a very rare feature.
- Motorized lens cover. Putting the lens cap on the Panasonic was a delicate procedure as it could lead to some shifting of the PJ if not super careful with putting the cap on/off. Love having a motorized cover and never worrying about it again.
- White color. Except for the black lens cover and some silver accents, the Epson is white and stands out less in my HT as the ceiling is not high (basement "HT"). Yes, that means my ceiling is white (wife will never allow me to paint the basement black).
- "Better" operation noise. I ended up returning my original Panasonic and getting another one because of this high pitched noise that it made even on low lamp setting. Now the fan noise but a high pitched, "whining" kind of noise (I have a lot of posts in the AE8000U thread about this) that drove me crazy as the PJ is relatively close to our heads (ceiling mounted on a lowered part that the furnace ducts go through so only about 3 feet -- that's about 1 meter for you smart people everywhere else in the world -- above our heads). Both Panasonics made the noise so I figured it was not a defect as they were both new and made the same sound. The Epson makes a completely fine, humming noise like my previous Sony PJ, no obnoxious, high pitched noise. It does get louder with higher fan use but on eco to mid setting it's perfectly fine.
- Has been more reliable so far. Had to send my Panasonic in to replace a circuit board within the 1 year warranty period. Epson is going strong so far.

Features I like the Panasonic more than the Epson:

- The Epson is larger, and butt ugly. You've seen the pics, but it looks worse in person. The Panasonic, OTOH, has a more professional and clean design in my eyes.
- Better 3D performance. I think it was better, because I didn't watch a ton of 3D movies when I had the Panasonic. I do know that I don't enjoy 3D on my Epson due to crosstalk and too much dimming of the image in 3D.

Features that neither is better (or possibly even good) at:

- I don't feel that the black levels have improved from the Panasonic to the Epson. I'm not a super user though and I don't do much calibration (I use others' settings from these boards but that's about it). Neither is great at this.
- Can't really say PQ is better or worse either. I haven't noticed much difference, but I'm satisfied with both for image quality of 1080p images on a 110" screen. Again, I'm not a super user though.
- Both have good lens shift and zoom range, pretty similar to each other in those specs.

Anyway, if you could benefit from any of the feature set of the Epson (memory, motorized lens shift, etc.) then I recommend getting one. It's been a good PJ the past 1-2 years that I've had it.

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Improved features of the Epson 5040UB over the Panasonic PT-AE8000U:

- Motorized lens shift. I just HATED using that joystick for lens shift, which for my "HT" setup sometimes needed adjustments, especially as I do a CIH setup, and the joystick was imprecise and I spent too much time making adjustments. Actually, I couldn't do CIH until I got the Epson really.
- Lens shift (and I think focus) memory. For CIH, this is crucial and no other projector seem to have this feature. Don't know about very expensive PJs (e.g. for me that means over $5,000) as I don't look into those much since I'll never buy one probably, but it seems to be a very rare feature.
Not sure what Panasonic you actually had, but the AE8000 has motorized lens shift and zoom with memory settings and automatic switching between 2.35 and 1.78 aspect ratios built in.

Things like looks and color are obviously personal preference. Certainly in a darker theater almost all users prefer and actually demand black projectors. They will pay for the 6040 over the 5040 just to get the black color. But, as I said, that's not something I would call a feature of either model. Likewise with size.

But, certainly if you had a Panasonic without motorized functions, you did not have the AE8000.

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But, certainly if you had a Panasonic without motorized functions, you did not have the AE8000.

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Not sure what Panasonic you actually had, but the AE8000 has motorized lens shift and zoom with memory settings and automatic switching between 2.35 and 1.78 aspect ratios built in.

But, certainly if you had a Panasonic without motorized functions, you did not have the AE8000.
You really think I would have written all that without knowing what features it had or what model I paid over $2000 for?

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You really think I would have written all that without knowing what features it had or what model I paid over $2000 for?
WTF???!!!??

My bad. I was sure it was all motorized. Apologies.

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I have the same question as the OP except mine is a Panasonic AE4000U. Any thoughts on that upgrade to Epson 5040ub? I also run CIH so the motorized zoom and focus is crucial to me. I think I can live with white because the projector sits so that the lens is just overhead of the seats, so I wouldn't be looking at it.

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Sorry if this has been discussed before ad nauseum, but a quick search didn't show much and I didn't want to go through hundreds of pages in the device threads.

Anyway, quick question for those who have had both the venerable but still kicking, AE8000U, and the newer 5040ub. Is it worth upgrading from the AE8000U to the 5040ub?

My setup is: basement family room/HT which has decent but not complete light control (three smallish windows with blackout roller blinds). Screen is a 110" diagonal Elite Screens Aeon Edge Free with cinewhite. Using that popular Oppo BD player (BD203?) and a Yamaha receiver. Throw distance is only 11'2". Both projectors, per projector central, project the same image size from the same throw distance but since I am at near max image size at this throw distance and the 5040ub is longer/deeper than the AE8000U (by a few inches), I will have to move my mount back a bit. No biggie though really since the 5040ub doesn't have rear air vents.

I like the AE8000U for the overall performance, lens shift, and motorized zoom/focus. It is a bit long in the tooth by now though (bought it in 2013). The 5040ub seems to have gotten great reviews for PJ at its price point, with notable features like improved contrast/blacks and motorized zoom/focus AND lens shift. I care most about those upgrades/features.

Given all that, would it be a reasonable improvement overall? I hate the stiff-at-the-beginning manual lens shift of the AE8000U which makes adjustments a hassle (and I slide my screen out about 18" when using the PJ due to the image being off center because of a stairway next to the screen wall). And I find the blacks to be not impressive on the AE8000U (not calibrated though, I use "cinema 2" usually).

Any thoughts would be appreciated. Price is a consideration of course but not a major factor in my decision making process (at least for the 5040ub).
I have the 7000U and everytime I go look at another projector and then come home and look at mine with the same movies I decide not to upgrade. I looked at the 5040, Sony 285 and 295 and JVC 790. While they are better, not even close to the price. Everybody who comes into my HT still raves over the picture and says they didn't know HT could be that good. I may be sticking with my 7000 until it dies. :-)

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I haven't posted on AVS in a long time. But here goes...

I have the 8000U and love it to death. I've contemplated to 'upgrade' many times and when I check the specs of other PJs, I don't see any reason to spend 2-3k for a 'better' pic. I've seen 4K and I would need to upgrade everything. So, that's a big no! Soon, 8K will come out and the whole 'upgrade' virus comes back. IMO, if you're happy with what you have, stay with it.
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I have the same question as the OP except mine is a Panasonic AE4000U. Any thoughts on that upgrade to Epson 5040ub? I also run CIH so the motorized zoom and focus is crucial to me. I think I can live with white because the projector sits so that the lens is just overhead of the seats, so I wouldn't be looking at it.
If you run CIH then the 5040UB is definitely worth the upgrade. The 4000U is pretty old by now so probably significant picture improvement also (I would assume but have no direct experience with the 4000U). If you want a black projector I think there is a black "pro" version of this one, the 6040UB, although it costs significantly more. Not sure off the top of my head what else besides color is different about the 6040UB.

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I have the 7000U and everytime I go look at another projector and then come home and look at mine with the same movies I decide not to upgrade. I looked at the 5040, Sony 285 and 295 and JVC 790. While they are better, not even close to the price. Everybody who comes into my HT still raves over the picture and says they didn't know HT could be that good. I may be sticking with my 7000 until it dies. :-)
If the 7000U is like the 8000U, and I didn't need lens shift (and focus?) memory for a CIH setup, then I also would not have upgraded, although I might have just for the quieter, better noise. Both my 8000U made that terrible high pitched noise (like tinnitus) which was intolerable because it was only 3-4 feet about my head.

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I haven't posted on AVS in a long time. But here goes...

I have the 8000U and love it to death. I've contemplated to 'upgrade' many times and when I check the specs of other PJs, I don't see any reason to spend 2-3k for a 'better' pic. I've seen 4K and I would need to upgrade everything. So, that's a big no! Soon, 8K will come out and the whole 'upgrade' virus comes back. IMO, if you're happy with what you have, stay with it.
Yup.

1080p is totally sufficient for my 110" screen (wish I could go to at least 120" but no can do) and until HDR on PJs improves a lot I don't see any reason to upgrade from the 5040UB. If not for the lens memory and quieter noise of the 5040UB I would still have my 8000U.

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I have the AE8000U and just ordered the Epson 5040UB today for $1150 refurb + $50 in tax.

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I've owned both projectors. The Epson 5040UB has discernibly better picture quality than the Panasonic-AE8000U.
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How is the difference in black levels and contrast? I have the Panasonic and being thinking Epson.

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Epson has deeper black levels and a much sharper image. And I would give Epson the edge when it comes to color accuracy in its brightest non dynamic mode setting vs. Panasonic brightest non dynamic mode setting.
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Epson has deeper black levels and a much sharper image. And I would give Epson the edge when it comes to color accuracy in its brightest non dynamic mode setting vs. Panasonic brightest non dynamic mode setting.
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I am in the same boat with wanting to upgrade from the AE8000
So far i don't like the Epson for one reason which is the SDE ( Screen Door Effect ) and that it's not 4K.

Having demo'd a few projectors now i really am stuck lol.

I ran a 150" screen so i am really looking for higher resolution and better contrast. Only thing that screams at me is JVC but the price is rough.

Waiting to see what the new Epson will be like and also the new BenQ W5700.
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Same boat, have the Panasonic AE8000 and stll enjoying the unit to much. There's too little gain jumping to the benq w5700 with my eyes. Considered the epson TW9400 which i felt was more of a upgrade even with the pixel shifting. Personally i don't care how the 4k system is technically, as long as it looks better... for me, i thinks i might just wait till there's a busy effective 4k solution with lens memory and a big jump from the Panasonic picture quality...

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I bought a 5040UB from the AE8000U. It's a tick up from the AE8000U, but the youthman video showing the difference isn't accurate to my experience. I'd say it was a smaller tick up than his video shows and a clear step down from the JVC RS-600 I had in my room for a couple weeks as a demo opportunity.

I sold my AE8000U to a fellow enthusiast for $750. I showed him the AE8000U and the 5040UB immediately back to back. He knew the price was $1150 for a refurb of the 5040UB. He still chose to buy my 4 year old AE8000U with 1700+ hours over the 5040UB with a new bulb for $1150 if that makes the comparison more objective. If he had decided to not buy my AE8000U I probably would have just kept it and resold or returned the 5040UB.

Personally with the HDR limitation on the 5040UB (which requires some hacks to even look decent with HDR sources - Harpvision settings work well) - if you are happy with your AE8000U, I'd just stick with it until true 4K and HDR are implemented correctly for the pricepoint you can afford. But if your AE8000U is failing or the bulb is dim -- then the 5040UB is a nice tide over projector until they get 4K and HDR to an affordable pricepoint.

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