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Kraine tested the UHD550 as having more than the advertised 33ms of lag- around 50 ms I believe. I get that the UHD550 and UHD60 are different models but if Optoma lied about the lag on the 550 what are the chances they lied about the UHD60?
Optoma actually quoted the lag on the uhd60 as variable 33-50ms if I recall.

And uhd65 something like 66-82ms.

Champion competition video gaming projector remains Vivitek H9090 IMO - if you don't mind 1080p.

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Love my uhd60. My son is playing lego city undercover 2160p/60 it looks gorgeous sharp like a cg movie!
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Optoma actually quoted the lag on the uhd60 as variable 33-50ms if I recall.

And uhd65 something like 66-82ms.

Champion competition video gaming projector remains Vivitek H9090 IMO - if you don't mind 1080p.

16ms, LED light source, perfect motion resolution, no RBE at all.
UHD60 is the way to go if you game. Just played a little XBox Infinity speedway. No problem doing it but you can tell there is a little lag. Won't hinder regular play but if it's milliseconds and you head is going to get blown off you may not want the UHD65

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My heart jumped a little bit ago. My UHD65 locked up switching video inputs. Now it is Saturday and maybe was not fully awake but I actually had to pull the plug. I have done the switching probably 50 times in the past but this time it locked....we will see.

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UHD60 is the way to go if you game.

Not if input lag is 50ms.

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Not if input lag is 50ms.
Depends how serious you are. My current pj is 50ms and have no problem even with multiplayer fps.
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Not if input lag is 50ms.

Correct. once you are used to lower you cant down grade like that.
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Correct. once you are used to lower you cant down grade like that.
Depends on your gaming needs and has been litigated all the way through no need to rehash. True owners including myself have reported their experiences.

If you need real low input lag buy something else. If you game and can live with it and want 4K it's a great projector for the price.

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Optoma UHD60/65 Owners Thread

Worked today on getting the UHD60 dialed in with a completely dark room. Pretty sure I got it. Picture is razor sharp and blacks are good.

Took a few pictures while watching "Passengers". Take a look at the shirt Jennifer Lawrence is wearing. That's a pretty good representation of the blacks I'm getting. It's not grey or washed out, but of course not ink black either.

The other picture shows the nice strong saturated colors and sharpness.

I realize it's hard to capture how it really looks but it's as close as I could get.

My main point is that if the UHD65 is not in your budget, the UHD60 is completely satisfactory for any type of entertainment you could throw at it.

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To anyone who owns the UHD60/65 and a Nvidia Shield:

How the heck do you get the Nvidia Shield to recognize this projector as an HDR capable device? None of the apps on the Nvidia Shield (Amazon Video UHD HDR, Plex, KODI, etc) will kick the projector into HDR mode . (The Roku Ultra and the Chromecast Ultra will kick the UHD60/65 into HDR mode). The projector verifies on the screen when it is truly in HDR mode by displaying a box in the upper right corner saying "HDR" for a few seconds once the HDR video is displayed. The Nvidia Shield never does this and it is a HDR capable device. That would really be a bummer if the Nvidia Shield's HDR capability wasn't compatible with these projectors.
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Worked today on getting the UHD60 dialed in with a completely dark room. Pretty sure I got it. Picture is razor sharp and blacks are good.

Took a few pictures while watching "Passengers". Take a look at the shirt Jennifer Lawrence is wearing. That's a pretty good representation of the blacks I'm getting. It's not grey or washed out, but of course not ink black either.

The other picture shows the nice strong saturated colors and sharpness.

I realize it's hard to capture how it really looks but it's as close as I could get.

My main point is that if the UHD65 is not in your budget, the UHD60 is completely satisfactory for any type of entertainment you could throw at it.

EDIT: Damn forum software downrezed the pictures so they look a bit blurry. The original pictures are 10 times sharper.
I did a search on your previous posts to see if I could see any mention of your screen size and gain but after the 3rd page I gave up! LOL Can you share those? Great pics by the way.

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EDIT: Damn forum software downrezed the pictures so they look a bit blurry. The original pictures are 10 times sharper.
May be you can post the images in postimage or similar, don´t you?

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Worked today on getting the UHD60 dialed in with a completely dark room. Pretty sure I got it. Picture is razor sharp and blacks are good.

Took a few pictures while watching "Passengers". Take a look at the shirt Jennifer Lawrence is wearing. That's a pretty good representation of the blacks I'm getting. It's not grey or washed out, but of course not ink black either.

The other picture shows the nice strong saturated colors and sharpness.

I realize it's hard to capture how it really looks but it's as close as I could get.

My main point is that if the UHD65 is not in your budget, the UHD60 is completely satisfactory for any type of entertainment you could throw at it.

EDIT: Damn forum software downrezed the pictures so they look a bit blurry. The original pictures are 10 times sharper.
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Here is what I'm using. I used the test patterns from the Disney WOW disc. It's kind of interesting. To get the contrast and brightness correct, I still ended up at zeros for those two settings. Setting the brightness too high washed out the whites and too low made the blacks crush. When I switched the display mode to HDR, the pop was great but the whites were too washed out.

My next goal is to work on the colors but I need to get my Spider calibrator up and running. In the meantime, I used the color filter and the color bars to get those as close as I could for now. Quite frankly it looks like Optoma did a pretty good job with calibration out of the box.

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I'm using a 106" Elite White screen with the projector about 11 feet back. Obviously my settings are custom for my setup so YMMV.

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Here is what I'm using. I used the test patterns from the Disney WOW disc. It's kind of interesting. To get the contrast and brightness correct, I still ended up at zeros for those two settings. Setting the brightness too high washed out the whites and too low made the blacks crush. When I switched the display mode to HDR, the pop was great but the whites were too washed out.

My next goal is to work on the colors but I need to get my Spider calibrator up and running. In the meantime, I used the color filter and the color bars to get those as close as I could for now. Quite frankly it looks like Optoma did a pretty good job with calibration out of the box.

Display Mode: Cinema
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Sharpness: 8
Color: 10
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Color Setting: Brilliant Color 1; Color Temp: D65; Color Gamut: Cinema; Color Space: Auto
Ultra Detail: Off
Dynamic Black: On
Brightness Mode: Eco

I'm using a 106" Elite White screen with the projector about 11 feet back. Obviously my settings are custom for my setup so YMMV.
What's the gain on that screen? I need to look back but I think I actually went negative on brightness with my 1.3 gain.

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Would it seem good to you if the lucky owners could share your calibration?
Adding size, screen characteristics, throw distance, etc.
Especially if they have some calibration experience or specific tools for the job.

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Would it seem good to you if the lucky owners could share your calibration?
Adding size, screen characteristics, throw distance, etc.
Especially if they have some calibration experience or specific tools for the job.
Look back several posts where I gave that information for mine.
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Is the projector capable of 2:35.1?

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The ND filters skip to much highlights, so the pop will be lost.
Also with the weakest filter - the ND2 reduce 2 F/stops of brightness.

Today i calibrate the display mode HDR - in direct light source path.

follow settings are changed

RGB GAIN/BIAS

red -1 / -2
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CMS ( I changed only the secondaries)

cyan / x offset 0 y offset +15 brightness 0
magenta / x offset -40 y offset -24 brightness 0
yellow / x offset -21 y offset +24 brightness 0


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X: -0,00101882486732674
Y: -0,00041593325612399
Z: -0,00477854276311707


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It's not constant-height friendly, if that's what you mean.
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i like this movie after a 3th seeing now.....

I also like the animes too incl. all SAC episodes.

my own HDR Template calibration setup as describe above in post 712.
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Looks great!!

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UHD60 or 65?
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i like this movie after a 3th seeing now.....

I also like the animes too incl. all SAC episodes.

my own HDR Template calibration setup as describe above in post 712.
That looks awesome, thanks so much for sharing! I see you used the Spectracalc.....is it worth it?

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