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post #1741 of 3432 Old 11-11-2017, 08:19 AM
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FYI, not seeing any such thing even though my calibration pattern is not perfectly aligned. Are you sure your optical zoom ring hasn't moved ?
Try showing the calibration pattern again just to double check. Some sources may not display all lines depending on source aspect ratio and could possibly be centered which could explain your situation, at least in theory.
So I put up the grid lines on the Optoma test patterns to show you the bottom line fitting perfectly in the screen. Then below is that 3-4" "light zone" that is spraying below. So annoying. I looked at the zoom and it's set perfect. If I move it smaller, the image is no longer fitting on the screen and is not 16:9 but the light does move inside the screen.
After reading this mine has a 2 inch dim band of light on top and bottom past the last grid line, Is this not normal for everyone, can some folks check. Wondering if mine is also bad

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I am having trouble figuring out if I can fit the projector in my location. I currently have an Epson UB from about 6 or 7 years ago. It does have great vertical and horizontal lens shift, so it fit fine in its location.

I do not need horizontal lens shift as it mounted in the middle of the room horizontally, and the Epson is 178" from the front of the screen. I do need vertical lens shift, however. I can't mount it right next to the ceiling because the room has a support bar crossing horizonstally through the middle of it, so I have to put the Epson about 30" below the ceiling so that it clears the projection clears the bar and can project to the top of the screeen that screen starts about 2.5" below the ceiling. The screen height is about 73", so if I'm looking at the vertical offset capabilities correctly, I could only move the projector down from the ceiling by about 15% which is ~ 10". If so, obviously the UHD60/65 won't work for me as I need more vertical offset. Am I correct in my analysis? Thanks!
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Well my Xbox One X issue is def the Active HDMI Cable. The one I have is 10.2 GB bandwith and I guess this was OK for Xbox One S but not good enough for what the Xbox One X. Didn't realise 10.2gb is only good for 4K @ 30hz up to 50 feet. Bought enough Redmere Active cable that is 18gb transfer rate and good for [email protected] up to 50 feet.

Hoping that fixes my issue as I have none when I move the X back with the projector with the HDMI it came with.
I have no issues with signal on Xbox One X on UHD60 at 75'. I use Monoprice SlimRun Active 4k cable: https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=21567

Only issue I am having is Xbox Box controller connection issues from that distance. Still trying to come up with a solution for that

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I am having trouble figuring out if I can fit the projector in my location. I currently have an Epson UB from about 6 or 7 years ago. It does have great vertical and horizontal lens shift, so it fit fine in its location.

I do not need horizontal lens shift as it mounted in the middle of the room horizontally, and the Epson is 178" from the front of the screen. I do need vertical lens shift, however. I can't mount it right next to the ceiling because the room has a support bar crossing horizonstally through the middle of it, so I have to put the Epson about 30" below the ceiling so that it clears the projection clears the bar and can project to the top of the screeen that screen starts about 2.5" below the ceiling. The screen height is about 73", so if I'm looking at the vertical offset capabilities correctly, I could only move the projector down from the ceiling by about 15% which is ~ 10". If so, obviously the UHD60/65 won't work for me as I need more vertical offset. Am I correct in my analysis? Thanks!
I'm I'm understanding you correctly. The answer is that it will not work for you. The optoma can only shift down when ceiling mounted. So at the minimum, the lens would have to be at the top edge of the screen, in your case, 2.5" from the ceiling.

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Distance is 119" to the edges or 120" right up to the speaker cover. Seating/head distance from screen will be 13-15 ft based on U-shaped couch. I am sure that the 150" screen will simply be too large so I will look at ways to get between them yet as close as possible. A custome made one is not a bad idea so looking into it.
I would go with 130 or 135" diagonal or an acoustically transparent screen. Definitely try to get as large as your wall and projector can handle.

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Another options is HK2288, which should be out any day now and likely will be a step above the UHD65 even in contrast.
But from the specs we know thus far - there's still no user manual available online [IMG class=inlineimg]https://www.avsforum.com//forum/images/smilies/frown.gif[/IMG] - lens shift range is even less than with those UHD Optomas.


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No matter what angle I aim the projector at the screen, I can't get the picture to be perfectly square using the built in test grid. It is like the grid starts bending at the corners.

Are you observing a curvature OR does the projected image look like a trapezoid???


In the latter case, the center of the projection lens has to be exactly on the same horizontal level as the top edge of your projection image, with these DLPs you just don't have the lens shift range you might have gotten used to with projectors from the other technologies.
I have the same problem trying to align mine.
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Optoma UHD60/65 Owners Thread

For anyone with a Panasonic UB900 (or other UHD Bluray player) and a UHD60/65:

When you turn HDR off on the projector, do you see it re-sync and then the UB900, by looking at its info screen, sends and shows the signal now as 2160/24p SDR BT2020 4:4:4 (or 4:2:2) 10 or 12 bit? Or does it change the signal to 2160/24p SDR Rec709 4:4:4 8 bit, not allowing the wide color gamut and 10/12 bit without HDR?

On the UHZ65 I have here, it does the conversion and keeps WCG BT2020 and higher bit depths, just as if I had an HDFury on it. I'm curious if the UHD60 and/or 65 do the same?

All other projectors I've messed with to date would convert to rec709 8 bit unless I had an HDFury in line on the HDMI, sending the right EDID to make the source send SDR bt2020 10+ Bit.

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I got a Chief RPMAU mount and was wondering if this will work on the UHD65.

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I got a Chief RPMAU mount and was wondering if this will work on the UHD65.
Yes it will. I have same mount. I had to cut down the long m6 bolts so they fit in projector. A bit tricky to get the arms to fit. Keep in mind the weight of projector is off center so make sure your pipe is also center of gravity. About 1 inch off center.
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If facing the projector from the front the off-center is left or right? Also, can you just use washers instead of cutting the bolts?

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If facing the projector from the front the off-center is left or right? Also, can you just use washers instead of cutting the bolts?
Yes you can. I didn?t have washers on hand and just cut them down.
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If facing the projector from the front the off-center is left or right? Also, can you just use washers instead of cutting the bolts?
Yes you can. I didn?t have washers on hand and just cut them down.
Can you do me a favor and let me know when you run your test grid if you have about 2-3 inches of dim light at top and bottom at the last grid lines. I think i got a bum projector.
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Thanks for the reply. Now I just need to make my decision on which projector to get.

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Hey Everyone,

Thanks for all of your great feedback and commentary. I will be purchasing the UHD60 or UHD65 tomorrow with the Xbox One X, and I wanted to know if anyone has any comparison feedback on the input lag. I have a 150" in a light controlled theater room. I am a casual gamer and occasionally play FPS like Call of Duty but primarily, watch movies. My previous projector was the Epson 8350 and I loved it, even with the noticeable lag. Does anyone have any input lag comparison experience between the two projectors? Are the blacks significantly better on the UHD65 and worth the extra $500? I don't plan on using the projector for sports so I am not particularly interested in frame interpolation. Thanks!

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Thanks for all of your great feedback and commentary. I will be purchasing the UHD60 or UHD65 tomorrow with the Xbox One X, and I wanted to know if anyone has any comparison feedback on the input lag. I have a 150" in a light controlled theater room. I am a casual gamer and occasionally play FPS like Call of Duty but primarily, watch movies. My previous projector was the Epson 8350 and I loved it, even with the noticeable lag. Does anyone have any input lag comparison experience between the two projectors? Are the blacks significantly better on the UHD65 and worth the extra $500? I don't plan on using the projector for sports so I am not particularly interested in frame interpolation. Thanks!

Yes I've heard the blacks are noticeably better on the UHD65. It can be had for less than $500 more from what I've seen too. I have a UHZ65 here to calibrate and I must say I'm pleasantly surprised at the perceived black levels on it.
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Just finished watching transformers5last knight on uhd60 via 4k uhd disc 24hz hdr10 on xbox one s and dolby atmos 5.1.4. The improved hdr signal xbox is now incredible as are this films imax full screen imagery! Simply amazing hdr on the uhd60 looks wow! Even though its only 3,000 lumens and hdr10 is 1000nits/10,000 lumens estimate, the hdr looks stellar on uhd60 wow. It felt truly like digital cinema in my home and thats wow for the price

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Hey Everyone,

Thanks for all of your great feedback and commentary. I will be purchasing the UHD60 or UHD65 tomorrow with the Xbox One X, and I wanted to know if anyone has any comparison feedback on the input lag. I have a 150" in a light controlled theater room. I am a casual gamer and occasionally play FPS like Call of Duty but primarily, watch movies. My previous projector was the Epson 8350 and I loved it, even with the noticeable lag. Does anyone have any input lag comparison experience between the two projectors? Are the blacks significantly better on the UHD65 and worth the extra $500? I don't plan on using the projector for sports so I am not particularly interested in frame interpolation. Thanks!
I have the UHD65 and an xbox one X and I have not noticed any input lag.
I play Gears 4 just fine
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Just finished watching transformers5last knight on uhd60 via 4k uhd disc dolby vision 24hz hdr10 on xbox one s and dolby atmos 5.1.4. The improved hdr signal xbox is now incredible as are this films imax full screen imagery! Simply amazing hdr on the uhd60 looks wow! Even though its only 3,000 lumens and hdr10 is 1000nits/10,000 lumens estimate, the hdr looks stellar on uhd60 wow. It felt truly like digital cinema in my home and thats wow for the price
You might want to edit your statement regarding Dolby Vision to avoid any confusion.

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I have the UHD65 and an xbox one X and I have not noticed any input lag.
I play Gears 4 just fine
Hope that helps
Setting the projector to game mode will improve the input lag time a little bit, as well.
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Optoma UHD65 pixel resolution

I saw a review of the Optoma UHD65 , it was pretty indepth. What struck me was that the TI chip native resolution was claimed as 2716-1528 but because of the chip design it was able to produce the 8 million pixels for UHD.

"Keeping things straight when it comes to resolution

One more thought before we get into more of an overview of the projector itself: Just keep in mind, that 2716×1528 is still a far cry from true 4K (either 3840×2160, or true DCI 4K which is 4096×2160, – note that the difference is in aspect ratio, rather than any real difference resolution). Pixel shifting helps, just as it helps the 1080p pixel shifters look sharper than standard 1080p projectors. Appreciate the Optoma for the sharpness it delivers, which is most impressive. Don’t fall, however for the 4K UHD hype. Manufacturers tend to want to let readers “assume” it’s true 4K, and regularly use terms like 4K processing, 4K Enhancement, etc. In fact most brochures today of 4K UHD projectors proclaim 3840×2160 Resolution, but typically fail to remind us that the size of their pixels is double the area of true 4K pixels, and you just can’t get as sharp an image when the pixels are relatively “huge.” Roughly speaking, if a true 4K projector’s pixels were the size of a nickel,then this projector’s would be about the size of a quarter."

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I saw a review of the Optoma UHD65 , it was pretty indepth. What struck me was that the TI chip native resolution was claimed as 2716-1528 but because of the chip design it was able to produce the 8 million pixels for UHD.

"Keeping things straight when it comes to resolution

One more thought before we get into more of an overview of the projector itself: Just keep in mind, that 2716×1528 is still a far cry from true 4K (either 3840×2160, or true DCI 4K which is 4096×2160, – note that the difference is in aspect ratio, rather than any real difference resolution). Pixel shifting helps, just as it helps the 1080p pixel shifters look sharper than standard 1080p projectors. Appreciate the Optoma for the sharpness it delivers, which is most impressive. Don’t fall, however for the 4K UHD hype. Manufacturers tend to want to let readers “assume” it’s true 4K, and regularly use terms like 4K processing, 4K Enhancement, etc. In fact most brochures today of 4K UHD projectors proclaim 3840×2160 Resolution, but typically fail to remind us that the size of their pixels is double the area of true 4K pixels, and you just can’t get as sharp an image when the pixels are relatively “huge.” Roughly speaking, if a true 4K projector’s pixels were the size of a nickel,then this projector’s would be about the size of a quarter."

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Here is another article discussing the how the mirrors in the TI chip work to mimic 4k resolution.

https://www.theverge.com/circuitbrea...ctor-4k-budget


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"That horse has been flogged to death in this thread."

Thanks, I think I will wait to see what new crop of 4k projectors will arrive in the coming year.

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crazy thing is the new benq dlp 4k is using a 1080p dmd to shift x4 times to achieve 2160p, which would make the pixels even larger than the 4mill dmd is now.

honestly, you need to see it to believe it. i own optoma uhd60 and the 4k it outputs is incredible for the price. might not be true 4k, but its so close for the price i honestly don't care. the HDR now is stunning; it is plenty good to hold me over until a future true 4K option releases in my price range.
the 4k UHD movies look amazing, and pc gaming 2160p 444 8bit 60fps games look stunning, it truly is great. ps4, ps4pro and xbox all look excellent as well. ps4pro games look great, uncharted 4&LostLegacy @ 1440p and destiny2 at 4k were superb. HorizonZeroDawn looks amazing.
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Here my latest UHD65 calibration settings for UHD HDR content.

I choose the native color gamut of the UHD65 to get the widest targets.


My OPPO UDP-205 was set to 4:4:4 / 12bit.


These settings looks also very fine with FULL HD only content.

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I have UHD65, I tried to hook Sony UBP-X800 4K player, but some reason display not coming.. says no source found.

I tried with directly connecting with PJ and tried with through AVR(Denon 4300), but same result (No display).

Any inputs?
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I have UHD65, I tried to hook Sony UBP-X800 4K player, but some reason display not coming.. says no source found.

I tried with directly connecting with PJ and tried with through AVR(Denon 4300), but same result (No display).

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What HDMI cable are you using. I have a fiber optic HDMI cable and the x800 and Im having no issues. I also plan on getting the 4300 and i heard it too should work no problem.
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I order a hoss 25ft from monoprice to connect with uhd65 and onkyo receiver and nvidia shield. The sheild supports most of the resolutions except 4k60 444 12 bit chroma. I can get 422 12 bit rec 2020 with some artifacts in certain scenes. Should I go with fiber optic?
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Here my latest UHD65 calibration settings for UHD HDR content.

I choose the native color gamut of the UHD65 to get the widest targets.


My OPPO UDP-205 was set to 4:4:4 / 12bit.


These settings looks also very fine with FULL HD only content.

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The nvidia shield doesn’t give me the option for 444 12 bit pj with onkyo receiver is connected with a hoss 25ft active hdmi from monoprice do you thin k cause of the cable?
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