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Gaming on uhd60 is great. 33-48ms input lag officially; i dont notice anything. They said 65 was 80ms i think. I posted pics in the other thread. Iphone6plus. Enjoy!
Thank you!! I'll give it a shot.
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I mean DO NOT buy the 65 if you game at all. Buy the 60.

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So , I was an owner

I will say the image is excellent! Sharp and very detailed. I'm on a 92" screen and the brightness and clarity was there. The lag IS NOT playable if you game with the 65. The image was so good I just hope the 60 is playable. Like not its ok but a sure fire YES it awesome


I didn't understand your point
(( The lag IS NOT playable if you game with the 65 ))
do you mine the Optoma UHD 65 in not good for games ?
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If you game you want uhd60! My iphone fotos dont show the pure 4k majesty of the dlp image! Its incredible. Uhd65 has too much input lag. Look at optoma spec page for differences
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Another huge key is 18gbps hdmi 2.0 inputs. And hdr; and dlp 4k 2160p is fantastic
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I'm curious, did you guys calibrate your UHD60/65 with calibration disc? If so, which one?

And if you did not, that's okay too. It would be nice to know though.

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I'm curious, did you guys calibrate your UHD60/65 with calibration disc? If so, which one?

And if you did not, that's okay too. It would be nice to know though.

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Took a few pictures and videos using my iPhone 7 Plus.

Video here:
Got the sample video from: http://hdrsamples.com/life-of-pi-4k-...ample-footage/

You can see the projector detecting the video is HDR and switching modes a few seconds after starting. The video doesnt really show how it looks in real life, it looks incredible in person.

Also I pulled up the test pattern from the projector itself (The Green Lines)

The player is nVidia Shield TV at 4K60Hz 10bit 4:2:0

Got the chroma test from here and the last 2 lines are readable in person.
http://www.rtings.com/tv/learn/chroma-subsampling
http://i.rtings.com/images/test-mate...chroma-444.png

Also pulled up a 4K test pattern from here: http://vah.dy.fi/testcard/3840x2160.png
The zoomed in picture is from bottom middle rightish of the screen, it can render the 2 and 4 pixel wide lines but the 1 pixel wide line looks gray.
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Took a few pictures and videos using my iPhone 7 Plus.

Video here:
Got the sample video from: http://hdrsamples.com/life-of-pi-4k-...ample-footage/

You can see the projector detecting the video is HDR and switching modes a few seconds after starting. The video doesnt really show how it looks in real life, it looks incredible in person.

Also I pulled up the test pattern from the projector itself (The Green Lines)

The player is nVidia Shield TV at 4K60Hz 10bit 4:2:0

Got the chroma test from here and the last 2 lines are readable in person.
http://www.rtings.com/tv/learn/chroma-subsampling
http://i.rtings.com/images/test-mate...chroma-444.png

Also pulled up a 4K test pattern from here: http://vah.dy.fi/testcard/3840x2160.png
The zoomed in picture is from bottom middle rightish of the screen, it can render the 2 and 4 pixel wide lines but the 1 pixel wide line looks gray.
Thanls for video and pictures. That movie looks amazing w pj. How heavy is the UHD65 and how big is your screen w pj mount?

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Thanls for video and pictures. That movie looks amazing w pj. How heavy is the UHD65 and how big is your screen w pj mount?

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I have a 120" Silver Ticket screen.

It's pretty heavy, much heavier then my older Epson 3010, but I managed to put it on my mount by myself.
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The zoomed in picture is from bottom middle rightish of the screen, it can render the 2 and 4 pixel wide lines but the 1 pixel wide line looks gray.
For 4K that's a little disappointing.
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The zoomed in picture is from bottom middle rightish of the screen, it can render the 2 and 4 pixel wide lines but the 1 pixel wide line looks gray.
For 4K that's a little disappointing.
The wobbulation doesn't work that well with test patterns but works really well with 4K videos
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The wobbulation doesn't work that well with test patterns but works really well with 4K videos
I understand, but I'm very particular about sharpness and detail especially at higher resolution and I need to be convinced of that which I'm not seeing here. Maybe a test comparing these projectors with 1080p ones would help, and because we're comparing resolutions this means a lot of closeups. Here's a sample of what I mean:

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I understand, but I'm very particular about sharpness and detail especially at higher resolution and I need to be convinced of that which I'm not seeing here. Maybe a test comparing these projectors with 1080p ones would help, and because we're comparing resolutions this means a lot of closeups. Here's a sample of what I mean:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55SWtb1Hm7w
It would probably benefit you to go see one in person somewhere. You can't really get a great idea of sharpness performance from ANY internet pictures or videos. So far, everyone that has seen one in person has said that they are very sharp with image content.
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Took a few pictures and videos using my iPhone 7 Plus.

Video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dUf...ature=youtu.be
That opening video switch from SDR to HDR is pretty spectacular in itself and it clearly shows that the UHD65 has the mantle to play HDR well. If the UHD60 is that good, it's a win-win!
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I returned an epson5040ub because the 4k eshift wasnt good enough. The optoma uhd60 was sharp enough for the 4k dlp to impress me to keep it!
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Test patterns aside; watch a 4k video or play a game in 4k and no matter what; those tests will be what tells you. For me it passed the 4k test!
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I received my UHD 60 from Amazon on Monday July 3rd.

The good:

Is the the real deal when it comes to 4K resolution and HDR. Impressive based on that alone.

The bad:

Contrast is a disappointment compared to my Sony 40ES projector.
Ceiling mounting flexibility is not really flexible. 15 percent vertical shift is really not that great.
No matter what angle I aim the projector at the screen, I can't get the picture to be perfectly square using the built in test grid. It is like the grid starts bending at the corners. Never had a problem with alignment with my Sony 40ES.
Cheap build quality. That flip door that hides the lens shift and zoom controls is very flimsy.



I think I am going to attempt to return the UHD60 and get the UHD65. I am not a gamer anyways.
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I received my UHD 60 from Amazon on Monday July 3rd.

The good:

Is the the real deal when it comes to 4K resolution and HDR. Impressive based on that alone.

The bad:

Contrast is a disappointment compared to my Sony 40ES projector.
Ceiling mounting flexibility is not really flexible. 15 percent vertical shift is really not that great.
No matter what angle I aim the projector at the screen, I can't get the picture to be perfectly square using the built in test grid. It is like the grid starts bending at the corners. Never had a problem with alignment with my Sony 40ES.
Cheap build quality. That flip door that hides the lens shift and zoom controls is very flimsy.



I think I am going to attempt to return the UHD60 and get the UHD65. I am not a gamer anyways.
Another options is HK2288, which should be out any day now and likely will be a step above the UHD65 even in contrast.
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I have a 120" Silver Ticket screen.

It's pretty heavy, much heavier then my older Epson 3010, but I managed to put it on my mount by myself.
Thanks for info. I am about 12'8" from my 125" screen. Can't wait till mid month for mine to come in.

Keep posting videos and pics please.

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I have a 120" Silver Ticket screen.

It's pretty heavy, much heavier then my older Epson 3010, but I managed to put it on my mount by myself.
How far is the front pj to screen??

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I received my UHD 60 from Amazon on Monday July 3rd.

The good:

Is the the real deal when it comes to 4K resolution and HDR. Impressive based on that alone.

The bad:

Contrast is a disappointment compared to my Sony 40ES projector.
Ceiling mounting flexibility is not really flexible. 15 percent vertical shift is really not that great.
No matter what angle I aim the projector at the screen, I can't get the picture to be perfectly square using the built in test grid. It is like the grid starts bending at the corners. Never had a problem with alignment with my Sony 40ES.
Cheap build quality. That flip door that hides the lens shift and zoom controls is very flimsy.






I think I am going to attempt to return the UHD60 and get the UHD65. I am not a gamer anyways.

you the first one you didn't like the Optoma UHD 60.
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Anyone with the UHD550X? or is that out of the running for anything other than corporate environments?
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Anyone with the UHD550X? or is that out of the running for anything other than corporate environments?
The Uhd550x is rated at 50% lower contrast than the uhd60 and 60% lower contrast than the UHD65. It is a business projector.

In summary, the target of each pj is:
UHZ65 = Home theater with laser
HK2288 = Both Home theater and Gaming
UHD65 = Home theater
UHD60 = Gaming / Family room
UHD550X = Business

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Another options is HK2288, which should be out any day now and likely will be a step above the UHD65 even in contrast.
But from the specs we know thus far - there's still no user manual available online - lens shift range is even less than with those UHD Optomas.


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No matter what angle I aim the projector at the screen, I can't get the picture to be perfectly square using the built in test grid. It is like the grid starts bending at the corners.

Are you observing a curvature OR does the projected image look like a trapezoid???


In the latter case, the center of the projection lens has to be exactly on the same horizontal level as the top edge of your projection image, with these DLPs you just don't have the lens shift range you might have gotten used to with projectors from the other technologies.

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But from the specs we know thus far - there's still no user manual available online - lens shift range is even less than with those UHD Optomas.





Are you observing a curvature OR does the projected image look like a trapezoid???


In the latter case, the center of the projection lens has to be exactly on the same horizontal level as the top edge of your projection image, with these DLPs you just don't have the lens shift range you might have gotten used to with projectors from the other technologies.
I thought shift on both was max 15%?
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I thought shift on both was max 15%?

From everything I read thus far, I'm not certain. Optoma doesn't indicate the native offset value same as Vivitek ("115%") but the Optoma user manual suggests that offset, measured from the center of the lens to the top edge of your projection image is somewhere between "0" and 15%, i.e. thanks to this lens shift I can reduce the Optoma offset to "0".


Vivitek indicates a lens shift range of "5%-15%" and a throw ratio between 1.39-2.08:1 (1 being the width of the projection image). Given the absence of a Vivitek user manual for the HKXX88 I have to assume (better safe than sorry) that the Vivitek lenses have to hang higher, i.e. above the top edge of the projection image, something I've encountered with previous DLP projectors.

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The Uhd550x is rated at 50% lower contrast than the uhd60 and 60% lower contrast than the UHD65. It is a business projector.

In summary, the target of each pj is:
UHZ65 = Home theater with laser
HK2288 = Both Home theater and Gaming
UHD65 = Home theater
UHD60 = Gaming / Family room
UHD550X = Business
So for living room/gaming the HK2288 and UHD60 are front runners? good to know, thanks.
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So for living room/gaming the HK2288 and UHD60 are front runners? good to know, thanks.
Yep those would be the frontrunners as of now, with the HK2288 being more geared towards a darker home theater room and the UHD60 being more geared towards a lighter room with significant ambient light.
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I received my UHD 60 from Amazon on Monday July 3rd.

The good:

Is the the real deal when it comes to 4K resolution and HDR. Impressive based on that alone.

The bad:

Contrast is a disappointment compared to my Sony 40ES projector.
Ceiling mounting flexibility is not really flexible. 15 percent vertical shift is really not that great.
No matter what angle I aim the projector at the screen, I can't get the picture to be perfectly square using the built in test grid. It is like the grid starts bending at the corners. Never had a problem with alignment with my Sony 40ES.
Cheap build quality. That flip door that hides the lens shift and zoom controls is very flimsy.



I think I am going to attempt to return the UHD60 and get the UHD65. I am not a gamer anyways.
The funny thing is I was about to pull the trigger because Amazon had some in stock. For the uhd60. Figure and I would give it a shot. Running itvthrough the Hoops to see how it Compares with my 3010 Epson. Then I read your post :-)

I guess I'm going to have to try the uhd65 instead.

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While the UHD60 is great for gaming/family room, remember it has a RGBCYW wheel which spells poor contrast for movies in a dark room. With the optomas, UHZ65 is spec'd best for this scenario, and UHD65 2nd best. Uhd60/uhd550x would likely disappoint for movies in a dark room.

Very important with these Optoma models that you buy the one that fits the purpose you intend.
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