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BondDonBond 06-25-2017 11:15 AM

Optoma UHD60/65 Owners Thread
 
This thread is for owners of the Optoma UHD60/65 Projector or are serious about buying and have questions. If you do not own it or are serious about buying it there is another thread to post in on this projector.

Please post:
Real World experience
Settings and experimentation
Troubleshooting
Helpful hints
Buying help

BondDonBond 06-25-2017 11:19 AM

Here is the user manual for the UHD65. Great information for distances and offsets. Download is available and the 60 user manual is also available.

https://www.optomausa.com/projectorproduct/uhd65

MichGoBlue 06-25-2017 11:33 AM

Ordered my UHD 65 from Projector People on Thursday and it is scheduled to arrive tomorrow. Senior Customer Rep John Sullivan there was very helpful answering my questions as I was making the final decision to take the plunge to replace my 2 year old LG PF1500.

My main concerns this point deal with my location and long HDMI cable. I have my current projector mounted a little lower than where this one should be, so I will first test it there and see if it works okay without much distortion. I have a 40' HDMI cable run around the outside of the room behind furniture, it was supposed to be 4k ready so hopefully will work okay, otherwise I will buy a fiber cable instead.

Also I just ordered a Sony UBP-X800 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray Player to use with the projector after reading about them here. I don't have any 4K movies but would like to see how upscaled Blurays will look.

BondDonBond 06-25-2017 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MichGoBlue (Post 53871041)
Ordered my UHD 65 from Projector People on Thursday and it is scheduled to arrive tomorrow. Senior Customer Rep John Sullivan there was very helpful answering my questions as I was making the final decision to take the plunge to replace my 2 year old LG PF1500.

My main concerns this point deal with my location and long HDMI cable. I have my current projector mounted a little lower than where this one should be, so I will first test it there and see if it works okay without much distortion. I have a 40' HDMI cable run around the outside of the room behind furniture, it was supposed to be 4k ready so hopefully will work okay, otherwise I will buy a fiber cable instead.

Also I just ordered a Sony UBP-X800 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray Player to use with the projector after reading about them here. I don't have any 4K movies but would like to see how upscaled Blurays will look.

Interesting you ordered the Sony, I was looking at that for upstairs, I have the Oppo 203 downstairs. Will be curious how it works with you Optoma.

MichGoBlue 06-25-2017 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BondDonBond (Post 53871073)
Interesting you ordered the Sony, I was looking at that for upstairs, I have the Oppo 203 downstairs. Will be curious how it works with you Optoma.

Right now looking more for improved viewing experience for what I normally watch rather than dedicated 4K Bluray viewing so went with the lower cost alternative. If it turns out I want to move up to the Oppo 203 then I will put the Sony downstairs and buy it. Currently using a couple old Samsung Bluray players and both could use a refresh.

I think if I were more of a hardcore movie watcher I would build out my media room differently. For me mostly I just want a big TV watching experience rather than a true home theater experience.

BondDonBond 06-25-2017 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MichGoBlue (Post 53871041)
Ordered my UHD 65 from Projector People on Thursday and it is scheduled to arrive tomorrow. Senior Customer Rep John Sullivan there was very helpful answering my questions as I was making the final decision to take the plunge to replace my 2 year old LG PF1500.

My main concerns this point deal with my location and long HDMI cable. I have my current projector mounted a little lower than where this one should be, so I will first test it there and see if it works okay without much distortion. I have a 40' HDMI cable run around the outside of the room behind furniture, it was supposed to be 4k ready so hopefully will work okay, otherwise I will buy a fiber cable instead.

Also I just ordered a Sony UBP-X800 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray Player to use with the projector after reading about them here. I don't have any 4K movies but would like to see how upscaled Blurays will look.

I ordered a 50' Optic HDMI cable. Had a 35' but everything I have seen points to the longest is 20' and then you may not get the performance you want.

rkabir 06-25-2017 02:11 PM

I ordered the UHD65 from PP and am scheduled to get it tommorrow.

I currently have a Epson 3010 in a bat cave media room and will be able to switch it out with the UHD65 without needing any lens shift. The Epson 3010 has 0 offset with no lens shift.

I recently got a Samsung K8500 4K Blu-ray player that I plan on using. I currently have a 35 feet Monoprice Redmere cable that advertisers 18gbps bandwidth so hopefully I won't need new cables. Will give my impressions tommorrow when I have it installed and setup :)

am2model3 06-25-2017 02:54 PM

Happy owner of uhd60! Amazing 4k performance for the price!

BondDonBond 06-25-2017 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by am2model3 (Post 53874097)
Happy owner of uhd60! Amazing 4k performance for the price!

Did you tweak any settings? If so can you let us know what you did.

Thanks for helping all of us out!!

StammesOpfer 06-25-2017 06:14 PM

Ordered a UHD65 from ProjectorPeople the first day they were accepting orders and received it on june 22nd. I've watched a few movies and TV shows on it. I don't have a ton of 4k content and the only 4k device I have right now is a Chromecast ultra. The detail is great. I am sensitive to motion processing and had to turn off PureMotion which was one of the things that people really seem to like about the 65 over the 60. I need to spend some time tweaking all the settings but so far am fairly happy not sure I personally would have been any less happy with the UHD60 though.

TheronB 06-25-2017 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rkabir (Post 53873625)
I ordered the UHD65 from PP and am scheduled to get it tommorrow.

I currently have a Epson 3010 in a bat cave media room and will be able to switch it out with the UHD65 without needing any lens shift. The Epson 3010 has 0 offset with no lens shift.

I recently got a Samsung K8500 4K Blu-ray player that I plan on using. I currently have a 35 feet Monoprice Redmere cable that advertisers 18gbps bandwidth so hopefully I won't need new cables. Will give my impressions tommorrow when I have it installed and setup :)

I think I read people had trouble with this unit and Redmere cables.

StammesOpfer 06-26-2017 04:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheronB (Post 53880065)
I think I read people had trouble with this unit and Redmere cables.

I needed about 30ft in the wall plus a couple feet on either end. I couldn't find a passive cable that would work and did a ton of reading on active cables. I ended up going with Monoprice PID 21567 (I can't post links yet) it is a fiber optic cable and it has handled everything I have thrown at it so far. It's expensive for sure but much cheaper than the competition.

BondDonBond 06-26-2017 04:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StammesOpfer (Post 53876761)
Ordered a UHD65 from ProjectorPeople the first day they were accepting orders and received it on june 22nd. I've watched a few movies and TV shows on it. I don't have a ton of 4k content and the only 4k device I have right now is a Chromecast ultra. The detail is great. I am sensitive to motion processing and had to turn off PureMotion which was one of the things that people really seem to like about the 65 over the 60. I need to spend some time tweaking all the settings but so far am fairly happy not sure I personally would have been any less happy with the UHD60 though.

For you was the motion processing worse for you?

BondDonBond 06-26-2017 04:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StammesOpfer (Post 53881241)
I needed about 30ft in the wall plus a couple feet on either end. I couldn't find a passive cable that would work and did a ton of reading on active cables. I ended up going with Monoprice PID 21567 (I can't post links yet) it is a fiber optic cable and it has handled everything I have thrown at it so far. It's expensive for sure but much cheaper than the competition.

Have you thrown HDR and everything at it? What projector do you have?

rkabir 06-26-2017 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheronB (Post 53880065)
I think I read people had trouble with this unit and Redmere cables.

So I got the projector today and have been testing it out. The Redmere cables fine with my Samsung UBD-K8500 4K player and my Shield TV. Can sent 4K/60 4:2:0 10bit from the Shield TV, haven't tried 4K/60 4:4:4.

4k Blu-Rays look incredible on the projector, I tested out Planet Earth II, Lucy and Deadpool, The Martian and they all look amazing, HDR is enabled automatically when playing a 4K movie with HDR.

I tried SDR-HDR conversion on 1080p content but I think it increased the saturation way too much and did not like the look. Frame Interpolation on it is pretty good, way better then any FI i've seen before. On panning scenes it does remove judder completely, but it still causes a little bit of the soap opera affect which I hate, so I will be leaving it off.

Overall I am really happy with the projector and its a huge upgrade over my old Epson 3010, even on 1080p content.

rkabir 06-26-2017 10:50 AM

I took some pictures of 1080p Lucy and 4K Lucy, but realized you can't really tell too much from these images. The SDR-HDR mode actually looks good from this picture but it doesnt look that good in person.

1080p Lucy:
http://i.imgur.com/YLKaTzi.jpg

1080p Lucy with SDR-HDR turned on:
http://i.imgur.com/Sdbe6N0.jpg

4K UHD Blu-Ray with HDR
http://i.imgur.com/H2OFyhw.jpg

BondDonBond 06-26-2017 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rkabir (Post 53888177)
So I got the projector today and have been testing it out. The Redmere cables fine with my Samsung UBD-K8500 4K player and my Shield TV. Can sent 4K/60 4:2:0 10bit from the Shield TV, haven't tried 4K/60 4:4:4.

4k Blu-Rays look incredible on the projector, I tested out Planet Earth II, Lucy and Deadpool, The Martian and they all look amazing, HDR is enabled automatically when playing a 4K movie with HDR.

I tried SDR-HDR conversion on 1080p content but I think it increased the saturation way too much and did not like the look. Frame Interpolation on it is pretty good, way better then any FI i've seen before. On panning scenes it does remove judder completely, but it still causes a little bit of the soap opera affect which I hate, so I will be leaving it off.

Overall I am really happy with the projector and its a huge upgrade over my old Epson 3010, even on 1080p content.

Awesome, thanks for the update. Do you have a DVD player or AVR that upconverts the 1080P instead of the projector? Curious on that. Reports so far seem to be that the conversion at the projector is not that good.

rkabir 06-26-2017 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BondDonBond (Post 53888545)
Awesome, thanks for the update. Do you have a DVD player or AVR that upconverts the 1080P instead of the projector? Curious on that. Reports so far seem to be that the conversion at the projector is not that good.

My AVR (Denon X3200W) can up convert any source to 4K, honestly I can't tell the difference between my AVR up converting and the projector doing it. So currently I just have the projector doing it.

TheBrandon 06-26-2017 08:49 PM

Can owners of either of these confirm the mounting situation? If ceiling mounted (unit is upside down) do you have to have the lens above or even with the top of the screen? I need to be able to mount where the lens is 3 inches below the top of the screen due to a support beam. Is it possible or would I have to move my screen?

StammesOpfer 06-26-2017 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BondDonBond (Post 53881609)
For you was the motion processing worse for you?

It seems to bother me any time there is a person on screen the motion just isn't natural. With that said I have never seen a TV that I didn't HATE this on. I have been known to grab other peoples remotes when they leave the room just to turn it off.
Quote:

Originally Posted by BondDonBond (Post 53881721)
Have you thrown HDR and everything at it? What projector do you have?

I only have a Chromecast Ultra right connected through a Denon AVR-S720W to UHD65 now the only 4k source material I have is Youtube and a couple things on Plex. Everything has worked perfectly so far. I bought the monoprice cable after finding this comparison/review (again no link but it is an AVS Thread titled "TEST REPORTS | HDMI CABLES WHICH PROPERLY AND RELIABLY SUPPORT 18GBPS & HDMI 2.0b")

If you want me to try something specific or would like additional detail I am more than happy to share.

Number05 06-26-2017 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBrandon (Post 53900057)
Can owners of either of these confirm the mounting situation? If ceiling mounted (unit is upside down) do you have to have the lens above or even with the top of the screen? I need to be about to mount where the lens is 3 inches below the top of the screen due to a support beam. Is it possible or would I have to move my screen?

Me too! I have the same scenario.

I'm really interested in the latest Optoma product offering (leaning towards the UDH60 model for gaming though...)...

rkabir 06-26-2017 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBrandon (Post 53900057)
Can owners of either of these confirm the mounting situation? If ceiling mounted (unit is upside down) do you have to have the lens above or even with the top of the screen? I need to be about to mount where the lens is 3 inches below the top of the screen due to a support beam. Is it possible or would I have to move my screen?

Unfortunately you will have to move the screen. When ceiling mounted, the center of the lens has to be above or even with the top of the screen the screen. If its one or two inches or so you can probably tilt the projector upwards slightly and it should't look too bad.

Mr Ian B 06-26-2017 09:23 PM

Can someone post a picture of the bottom of the UHD65 please. I want to see where the mount holes are for ceiling mount. I have a peerless mount but with 3 legs only and need to know if I need a new mount or find a 4th leg.

Thanks,

Ian B

rkabir 06-26-2017 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StammesOpfer (Post 53900153)
It seems to bother me any time there is a person on screen the motion just isn't natural. With that said I have never seen a TV that I didn't HATE this on. I have been known to grab other peoples remotes when they leave the room just to turn it off.

I am the same way, I hate the soap opera effect FI/MI causes. I will say the effect on the UHD65 is much much better then other TVs i've seen in the past, but I'd rather deal with judder during panning scenes than have to deal with non-film like motion.

rkabir 06-26-2017 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Ian B (Post 53900401)
Can someone post a picture of the bottom of the UHD65 please. I want to see where the mount holes are for ceiling mount. I have a peerless mount but with 3 legs only and need to know if I need a new mount or find a 4th leg.

Thanks,

Ian B

You will need four legs. The holes are pretty close to eachother in a square-ish shape, much closer then the Epson 3010 I had before.

This is the best angle I can take without getting a ladder.

http://i.imgur.com/nmx6LH0.jpg

Mr Ian B 06-26-2017 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rkabir (Post 53900489)
You will need four legs. The holes are pretty close to eachother in a square-ish shape, much closer then the Epson 3010 I had before.

This is the best angle I can take without getting a ladder.

http://i.imgur.com/nmx6LH0.jpg

Thanks a bunch. That works. Any idea where I may find a fourth leg, Home Depot or Lowes?????

What content have you watched so far?

How far away are you from screen and screen size?

Any 4k blu rays that you have watched so far or streamed?

Tia again,

Ian B

rkabir 06-26-2017 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Ian B (Post 53900553)
Thanks a bunch. That works. Any idea where I may find a fourth leg, Home Depot or Lowes?????

What content have you watched so far?

How far away are you from screen and screen size?

Any 4k blu rays that you have watched so far or streamed?

Tia again,

Ian B

Not sure about the fourth leg, my mount came with 4 legs and my previous projector also needed 4 legs.

My screen size is 120" and I sit about 14 feet away. So far tried Planet Earth II, The Martian, Deadpool and Lucy in 4K Blu-rays. Was really blown away by Planet Earth II. The other movies look great too but the grainyness of the movies takes away from the sharpness I think, they still look way better then 1080p versions though. Also I am liking the HDR on this thing, it makes the colors really pop.

Mr Ian B 06-26-2017 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rkabir (Post 53900625)
Not sure about the fourth leg, my mount came with 4 legs and my previous projector also needed 4 legs.

My screen size is 120" and I sit about 14 feet away. So far tried Planet Earth II, The Martian, Deadpool and Lucy in 4K Blu-rays. Was really blown away by Planet Earth II. The other movies look great too but the grainyness of the movies takes away from the sharpness I think, they still look way better then 1080p versions though. Also I am liking the HDR on this thing, it makes the colors really pop.

Great info. I just sold my Sony VPLHW55ES tonight and will order tomorrow the UHD65 from AVS. My screen is $125" sitting about 13-14 feet back but the pj lens will be at about 12.7 feet from screen. So the grainyness is not coming from the 4k blu rays but rather the way they were shot.

Thanks again,

Ian B

Mr Ian B 06-26-2017 10:54 PM

All is well, found the 4th leg for the peerless mount in pj stuff drawer.

Ian B

Frank714 06-27-2017 02:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rkabir (Post 53888177)
Frame Interpolation on it is pretty good, way better then any FI i've seen before. On panning scenes it does remove judder completely, but it still causes a little bit of the soap opera affect which I hate, so I will be leaving it off
.

Based on my experience with previous Optoma projectors featuring Pure Motion FI I've been stating for years that it's among the best FI you can get with a projector, it's good to hear that new Optoma users are able to confirm that. :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by StammesOpfer (Post 53900153)
It seems to bother me any time there is a person on screen the motion just isn't natural.

As a matter of fact it is as natural as it can possibly get. Billy Lynn's Halftime Walk - https://www.avsforum.com/forum/187-of...ay-review.html - was shot with high frame rate (HFR), capturing movement as in real life, and still critics and viewers complained about "soap opera effect". With HFR it appears inevitable that you'll get the "natural motion effect", but many of us are so conditioned to motion blur and judder, that they find that viewing experience uncomfortable or need to get used to it (I did, wouldn't want to live without "fake HFR" aka Frame Interpolation ever again, therefore I would need the UHD 65 as the other two Optoma UHD models don't feature it).

Quote:

Originally Posted by rkabir (Post 53900433)
I hate the soap opera effect FI/MI causes. I will say the effect on the UHD65 is much much better then other TVs i've seen in the past, but I'd rather deal with judder during panning scenes than have to deal with non-film like motion.

Fair enough. I think audiences and users should have the choice to watch films with or without FI and then settle for what they like best. :)


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