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@adpayne , no disrespect intended and you may very well be right about the HDR performance, but I always like to wait for professional reviews by experienced AV veterans who measure with instrumented test equipment and publish hard numbers to back up their opinions. I've just seen too many instances where user impressions were not confirmed by instrumented test results from reliable sources with proven track records. For the benefit of everyone looking for a projector with that kind of performance I hope you're right.
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Many thx J Bone,

this is what I was expecting to receive, so now I know I got a wrong material....damn...
Now I have become a little suspicious and do not know exactly if I should order.
Yea I would be a little hesitant as well. Although did you request the samples by description (Ultra Short Throw ALR Screen Material) or by product code type (SM100LFH-E/SM120LFH-E)?
If Chinese is not your native language then Im sure a request by description only could be easily misunderstood.
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@adpayne , no disrespect intended and you may very well be right about the HDR performance, but I always like to wait for professional reviews by experienced AV veterans who measure with instrumented test equipment and publish hard numbers to back up their opinions. I've just seen too many instances where user impressions were not confirmed by instrumented test results from reliable sources with proven track records. For the benefit of everyone looking for a projector with that kind of performance I hope you're right.
I fully understand your point about professional reviews, and testing.
I was just extremely impressed how good the image looks at this pricepoint.
I have a dedicated room for serious movie watching, but it is very small. I wanted a large image in my livingroom when I have guests over, and this will do just fine until more true 4K UST PJs are available, and more reasonably priced. The Dell looks to be the best 4K (pixel shifting) value right now, but even on sale is 2.5 times the price of this one.
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@adpayne , I really appreciate your understanding. Sometimes people get angry and defensive when they think their judgment is being questioned. If a projector is performing to a user's satisfaction then that's a valid data point to add to the larger body of information that others will use to consider the projector. I think we're all looking forward to more data on this projector including instrumented testing by experienced professional reviewers to be able to put its performance in perspective with other more familiar models.
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@adpayne , I really appreciate your understanding. Sometimes people get angry and defensive when they think their judgment is being questioned. If a projector is performing to a user's satisfaction then that's a valid data point to add to the larger body of information that others will use to consider the projector. I think we're all looking forward to more data on this projector including instrumented testing by experienced professional reviewers to be able to put its performance in perspective with other more familiar models.
Dave,

This is not a professional review. just my observations from viewing experience.

This projector supports HDR and enhances image based on HDR data. Here is how I have tested. I have used ultra 4k Blu-ray player and planet earth 2 HDR Media for testing HDR vs non hdr. we (my whole family) unanimously voted that HDR image looks good compared to non hdr.

My receiver doesn't support HDR. so we have tested HDR by connecting the player to the projector and same video through the receiver for Non-HDR.


Same with Amazon prime videos. ( HDR is enabled whenever we played HDR videos).
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4 K bluray incl. HDR looks like only good ?

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4 K bluray incl. HDR looks like only good ?
The projector isn't marketed as an HDR or 4K projector, just the fact that it supports it. It's really just an added bonus and not a specific product point.

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hello, does the beamer make a shifting? can it render 4k content better than full HD?

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Yea I would be a little hesitant as well. Although did you request the samples by description (Ultra Short Throw ALR Screen Material) or by product code type (SM100LFH-E/SM120LFH-E)?
If Chinese is not your native language then Im sure a request by description only could be easily misunderstood.
Hey J Bone, I read on another thread that you just received your lenticular screen, care to share your impressions on the difference it made in your room? (and which screen)

Thanks,
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Hey J Bone, I read on another thread that you just received your lenticular screen, care to share your impressions on the difference it made in your room? (and which screen)

Thanks,
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Would love to but there was a delay in delivery. It's scheduled to be delivered tomorrow. So we'll see if that actually happens. But rest assured once I have it installed I'll post as many pictures as I can. I feel visuals over descriptions definitely make a better difference in our discussions on these forms.

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Hi inquisito,

I ordered a sample of the material, but I don't think they sent me the correct one.
Maybe you can tell me, if you have got the same material.

The one I received is in general plain flat on both sides.
What I believe is the backside, is white and a little bit rougher than the other grey/silver side.

I can't see any fine lines from the lenticular lenses.

Maybe they sent me a sample ALR material fot long-throw/classic projectors?

Can you maybe attach a macro photo of you screen material?

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Hi, it should be fairly easy to see it is lenticular up close and the back should be black and shiny.
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A couple more pics with dark and ambient light.
Still super happy with the Snowhite ALR!
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Many thx J Bone,

this is what I was expecting to receive, so now I know I got a wrong material....damn...
Now I have become a little suspicious and do not know exactly if I should order.
Yea I would be a little hesitant as well. Although did you request the samples by description (Ultra Short Throw ALR Screen Material) or by product code type (SM100LFH-E/SM120LFH-E)?
If Chinese is not your native language then Im sure a request by description only could be easily misunderstood.
Their most proficient English-speaking guy Mike Chen is on vacation until the 27th. Perhaps best to wait for him.
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According to this review you can change the language to English: http://www.awaqa.com/xiaomi-mi-ultra...tor-buy-price/

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Anyone here seen light output measurements from a reviewer (or take them yourselves), I'm just wondering how it compares to others? I think its rated 5000 lumens I'm wondering if it puts out half that and if there are brighter, less accurate modes?
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hello, does the beamer make a shifting? can it render 4k content better than full HD?
It doesn't do pixel shifting, but 4K content looks superior to 1080P.
It does HDR very well!!! I finally got my 120" Elite CLR screen up, and it looks like a giant flat panel TV. I've been able to remove the cardboard from my livingroom window that has been there for 6 years, as there is absolutely no reflections, or image degradation whatsoever with this combo.
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and the bad motion representation really does not bother you - with fast movements? for example ? or football?

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adpayne: can you please take a picture of your front? how did you position the middle box? the beamer is in the way!

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Hey J Bone, I read on another thread that you just received your lenticular screen, care to share your impressions on the difference it made in your room? (and which screen)



Thanks,

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Just set up a Snowhite 100” screen. Very good price and great results! Check the Viewsonic PX800HD with BCP120 Screen discussion for pics of screen and assembly.


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Hi All,

Does anyone know if you can control this projector via IP or CEC? I am looking to integrate it into my Crestron system.

Thanks very much, for all the great information already provided in the thread! Hopefully I can order this soon!
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It doesn't do pixel shifting, but 4K content looks superior to 1080P.
It does HDR very well!!! I finally got my 120" Elite CLR screen up, and it looks like a giant flat panel TV. I've been able to remove the cardboard from my livingroom window that has been there for 6 years, as there is absolutely no reflections, or image degradation whatsoever with this combo.
how did you enable HDR?
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Thanks J Bone....I would guess that?s from the window where the image is projected form...they really should standardize how they measure ultra shirt throw pjs, I?d vote measure to the side of the pj closest to the image like regular throw pjs...then these would be ~3? throw distance fr 100??image.

Has anyone compared this unit to the XGIMI LED pj? I?m just wondering if brightness/contrast and image quality is comparable? That would mean you doubling the price just for the convenience of ultra-short throw (and laser vs.. LED)...that would be a hard sell.
I have. Xiaomi is better, but of course more expensive. It is far more effective if you buy the relevant screen for it as most owners in China are doing. Long throw projectors still sell but i think more people are seeing the advantages of ust. Who knows but I've been steering towards ust since i got my zgimi h1.

Xiaomi has a better chance to sell internationally since they already have their bases in different countries. Just remember that this is xiaomi's first attempt (and a pretty good one) while xgimi has been in the game for a bit longer. Check out jmgo, they have a new ust for around the same price as this xiaomi.
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how did you enable HDR?
I just played content authored with HDR, such as Netflix, Amazon, Youtube, and UHD BDs. It isn't as bright as my UHD TV, but still noticable.
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The JmGO S1 is $5K retail though it states it is 4K compatible, it would have to be MUCH brighter and way more contrast than Xiaomi UST...I think it would compete more with the Epson LS100 which is still much less expensive. All these new products are great for consumers though...be patient, the prices will come down quickly (I'm telling myself this mostly...)
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The JmGO S1 is $5K retail though it states it is 4K compatible, it would have to be MUCH brighter and way more contrast than Xiaomi UST...I think it would compete more with the Epson LS100 which is still much less expensive. All these new products are great for consumers though...be patient, the prices will come down quickly (I'm telling myself this mostly...)
JMGO S1 is not a 4k projector but it can play 4k videos. The JMGOs are brighter than the equivalennt XGIMI A1 models. Would be interesting to see a direct comparison between these two projectors.

And yes, patience is a virtue, although this is an exciting time for visual/audio technology :-)
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@inquisito I think I buy the same screen as you.

Have you had the opportunity to test HDR content? If so, is not it too dark?
How much did you pay for the screen?
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Update on my end after couple of week owning this:

- I can play 4k HDR movies without any issue. I'm using xbox one s as blueray 4k player. Just need to enable the HDMI 2.0 in projector and update 4k display setting in xbox.
- Stream Netflix 4k + HDR works too (still using my xbox)
- I can play 3D movies using built in player. No luck on playing 3D movies using Kodi.

This my first projector so I can't compare performance and give good review. But overall i can say I'm satisified with my purchase! this will be used on my basement so i'll continue reading recommendation for screen. Currently, using Ikea blind as temp screen
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Question Xioami Ultra Short throw and IR/RF Remote?

I purchased the Xiaomi Mi Laser projector two weeks ago for $1676.00 USD using a LightInTheBox coupon (Code MIPROJECTOR2 posted in gizmochina, plus $35 insured shippment). It arrived yesterday in perfect condition. It took me less than 20 minutes to find the right plug converter, install the english APK and start using it. I have been projector fan for 20+ years, dedicating a full room to my home theater using mostly RUNCO and SONY projectors. I will need to use it for longer to comment but would rate "Very satisfied" my initial experience.

Need your help on one topic: My wife loves the TiVO (roamio) remote and the Xioami uses a bluetooth remote, so she will dislike having two remotes. Can someone suggest a combination of hardware/software that can allow me to control the projector from the TiVO another Universal/IR/RF remote such as the Harmony?. Are you aware of any way to send on/off/volume commands either via bluetooth or wifi (Xioami has an app that does this) using Amazon Alexa voice commands?

The Android experts might have some ideas...

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hey guys just today I got my Mi Projector and I'm loving it. This is indeed an excellent projector. But here are few questions I have:

1. I'm using nVidia Shield TV 2017 and I have connected it using HDMI however in my Netflix application and Amazon Prime Video I don't see the option of UHD and HDR. Can someone tell me how to enable that? BTW in nVidia Shield YouTube app I can watch 4K videos.

2. Some how I'm not able to get keystone right and on my wall it's not 100% square. Also somehow the TOP line is not straight bottom line looks straight.

3. Any suggestion for a good launcher to install to replace stock?
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