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Oh I see it now, thanks! Yes it's disappointing there's no P3 support despite laser. Noisy as hell too.
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Battleaxe, the Xiaomi here is a 1080p projector. The google translate is a little rough but kraine mentions at the start of the review that while the projector accepts 4K sources it down samples that 4K source to the native 1080p resolution of the projector. So it's not a 4K projector and it's not the same XPR chip being used in the W1700/HT2550. Maybe kraine can correct me here but I believe the 1080p chip used in this Xiaomi is the same DC3 DMD used in the majority of consumer 1080p DLP projectors.
The DMD in most older 1080p DLPs is 0.66 inch DC3, not 0.47 Pico type which have the tilt and roll mirrors which everyone complained about having terrible low-end contrast in those LED projectors. So this one is either very well made or it's using a 0.66 DMD and even then, with an optimised light path compared to most DLPs except the w2000+ which does 2500:1.

That honestly is the type of projector I would be looking to upgrade to, a relatively high contrast DLP, if it weren't so noisy, had more gamut, and low input lag. The price is right though. I really think it's a shame they can't do WCG with a laser light, and why is it so loud and with such low lumens? My lamp-based DLP is brighter than that, at least with a fresh bulb in it.

120hz support is something 1080p projectors with HDMI 2.0 input and 3D should all in theory support, so I may get what I am looking for one day. If not I'll just buy something else.

But I would like to get my hands on the user manual for this one, even if it is only in Chinese. Is there a PDF somewhere? I couldn't find it on the net.
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The DMD in most older 1080p DLPs is 0.66 inch DC3, not 0.47 Pico type which have the tilt and roll mirrors which everyone complained about having terrible low-end contrast in those LED projectors. So this one is either very well made or it's using a 0.66 DMD and even then, with an optimised light path compared to most DLPs except the w2000+ which does 2500:1.

That honestly is the type of projector I would be looking to upgrade to, a relatively high contrast DLP, if it weren't so noisy, had more gamut, and low input lag. The price is right though. I really think it's a shame they can't do WCG with a laser light, and why is it so loud and with such low lumens? My lamp-based DLP is brighter than that, at least with a fresh bulb in it.

120hz support is something 1080p projectors with HDMI 2.0 input and 3D should all in theory support, so I may get what I am looking for one day. If not I'll just buy something else.

But I would like to get my hands on the user manual for this one, even if it is only in Chinese. Is there a PDF somewhere? I couldn't find it on the net.
We're actually both wrong. This Xiaomi does use a .47 1080p DMD. I just read it in the specs section of the review.

So it uses the pico dmd and apparently gets it's contrast as a result of the laser light source. Cool. Can't wait for laser powered .66 DMD DLPs!

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If it uses the 0.47 pico tilt and roll DMDs, and achieves 2300:1 doing so, they could -- and should -- use those same 0.47 chips in the XPR projectors.

I somehow doubt the laser light source has anything to do with the high static contrast ratio, unless it's as a direct result of the laser light source having a super small etendue compared to a lamp, which would make it act like a mechanical iris without any loss of lumens for closing it.
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Hey just an FYI there is a 20% off coupon on eBay but it?s capped at 100$ so you can get this projector for 1600 with free shipping PSPRING20 is the coupon
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He didn't say that he was using game mode for this testing did he? My understanding from another forum was that this pj has a couple of places to select game mode that would decrease lag. I'm hoping that is the case.
It was tested at 88ms by reviewers back in June last year.
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I was in the same situation as you. I wanted the flat screen look for my condo. I was deciding between the viewsonic ls820, ls830, Optoma zh400ust, Dell 4k ultra short throw, Epson ls100.

I also wanted the appropriate screen, which you should definitely add to your setup as well: I chose the elite aeon CLR, you have the viewsonic BCP option as well. A few other options out there as well. Your screen should be specific to the short throw.

This is why I chose Xiaomi, even though I could afford any of the projectors I mentioned above (no particular order of reason):

1. Style: Xiaomi's projector is the sleekest, thinnest, non-bulking looking short throw on the market.
2. The reviews were good. And they met my expections. It's a nice projector.
3. Works well with my Sonos Playbar and Sub. The Xiaomi projector, unlike every other projector on the market, except for the $5k Dell, comes equipped with a Toslink Digital Sound Port. Made it easy to set up my Sonos System.
4. Value: I felt that for $1750.00, I would get a similar quality if not better for $1300 - $4000 less. My wife wants a second one for the bedroom now.
5. Didn't want to pay full price for a short throw that wasn't 4k. When a good 4k short throw comes out in the near future, I could put this one in the bedroom and buy a 4k that is reasonably priced, not bulky and put it in the living room. Right now, only Dell and hisense are in the 4k ust game. The price will drop in the near future.

Reasons NOT to get it:
1. No real warranty. I don't believe. 30 Days with Ebay or whoever you purchase it from
2. Everything is in Chinese. This can be easily converted and is not a real problem for me.
3. Unknown long term performance without a warranty.
4. A real 4k short throw could be around the corner. If you only want to buy one, you'd have to sell it to get a real 4k.
Thanks for the info. I'm still looking at the Xiaomi as I can get it for much cheaper than $1750 ;-) JMGO also has a competing UST at around the same price and they've been in the game for a while longer than Xiaomi. Quick question, do you think the Xiaomi is portable enough to put into a suitcase without taking up a lot of space?
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Hi, just as confirmation, I live in the US and 110v, can I really just plug it in straight in the wall with only the plug adapter?

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OK i ordered xiaomi projector from ********.

Here is my question

i want the best brightness , close to a real TV.

so if i project only 60 inches of image, do you guys think i can get better quality?

and i can't find a good CLR screen maybe like 60 or 70 inchs.
Is there any out there?

i should have bought 70inchs TV lol, it would have been cheaper he he, but i want the portability
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OK i ordered xiaomi projector from ********.

Here is my question

i want the best brightness , close to a real TV.
Turn off the lights, set projector to maximum brightness and sit 1.3 metres away from the screen. You'll have close to a real TV.

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so if i project only 60 inches of image, do you guys think i can get better quality?
See above.

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and i can't find a good CLR screen maybe like 60 or 70 inchs.
Is there any out there?
Check Amazon.

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i should have bought 70inchs TV lol, it would have been cheaper he he, but i want the portability
VR glasses + Samsung Note 8 (with 4K) = best setup.
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Thanks for the info. I'm still looking at the Xiaomi as I can get it for much cheaper than $1750 ;-) JMGO also has a competing UST at around the same price and they've been in the game for a while longer than Xiaomi. Quick question, do you think the Xiaomi is portable enough to put into a suitcase without taking up a lot of space?
Easily fittable in a suitcase, moreso than any other short throw out there. It's heavy (15lbs or so) but compact. It's approximately 2.5 in tall, 14 in wide, 10 in depth.
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Turn off the lights, set projector to maximum brightness and sit 1.3 metres away from the screen. You'll have close to a real TV.



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VR glasses + Samsung Note 8 (with 4K) = best setup.
Very funny lol. I have note 8 and vr glasses

But seriously it's there any CLR screen
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Hi, i recieved mine and i'm very happy with the image quality, but the noise is awful.

As it starts it produces a very annoying and loud sound. Its not from the fans, its from the processor i think, or the system.

This noise is louder when I plug a 30, 59fps or 60fps signal to the projector, with 23, 24 or 25 fps it seems more quitter but still very noticeable.

When the laser light is in high or movie mode the fans sound louder but this noise is still the same so this noise doesn’t seems to come from the fans, its like a processor (or something like that) noise.

I upload a video, can anyone confirm if it's normal or if there is something wrong with my unit?

link: youtube.com/watch?v=1yp0XlPwvjI


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Hi, i recieved mine and i'm very happy with the image quality, but the noise is awful.

As it starts it produces a very annoying and loud sound. Its not from the fans, its from the processor i think, or the system.

This noise is louder when I plug a 30, 59fps or 60fps signal to the projector, with 23, 24 or 25 fps it seems more quitter but still very noticeable.

When the laser light is in high or movie mode the fans sound louder but this noise is still the same so this noise doesn’t seems to come from the fans, its like a processor (or something like that) noise.

I upload a video, can anyone confirm if it's normal or if there is something wrong with my unit?

link: youtube.com/watch?v=1yp0XlPwvjI


Many thanks
Wow, yeah that's not right. I've watched a dozen or so videos and a lot of reviewers use a sound level meter and this is first time I've come across that sound. Hopefully the return policy is good.

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Easily fittable in a suitcase, moreso than any other short throw out there. It's heavy (15lbs or so) but compact. It's approximately 2.5 in tall, 14 in wide, 10 in depth.
Weight is an issue when 22kg is the limit for check-ins on most flights. Thanks anyway.
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Anyone got some feedback using some sort of Screen paint for this UST projector....
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Cool Carl's ust screens

Have anyone experience the Carl's Ultra Short Throw Screens... I got a sample of it and it looks decent, I just don't have an UST projector to test it out yet

Can't post the link yet, but just google Carl's ultra short throw screen and you can see it on their website.

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Help with starting my Xiaomi Mi projector

Hi Everyone,

I desperately require help with my just purchased Xiaomi mi projector...

I turned on the unit and it showed me an image to press the centre button, which I did, next it took me to the screen calibration image (shows a box / circle)... I hit the home button and it next took me to the wifi screen..

Mind you everything is all in Chinese here and I can't read or speak it -sorry...

now on the wifi screen I selected my wifi and entered the password... next it showed me what I believe is a telephone number screen and I didn't know what to do here... I was scanning the web to learn what to do and next thing the project turned itself off and does not seem to turn back on...

PLEASE someone help me...

I am new to the forum and have been following the write-ups and thought it would be easy... however I never did see the screen like all the youtube videos show with all the movie images in chinese when I turned the project on..

I hope someone is able to help me please.

I am writing this from UK / London.

Thanking you..
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Hi Everyone,

I desperately require help with my just purchased Xiaomi mi projector...

I turned on the unit and it showed me an image to press the centre button, which I did, next it took me to the screen calibration image (shows a box / circle)... I hit the home button and it next took me to the wifi screen..

Mind you everything is all in Chinese here and I can't read or speak it -sorry...

now on the wifi screen I selected my wifi and entered the password... next it showed me what I believe is a telephone number screen and I didn't know what to do here... I was scanning the web to learn what to do and next thing the project turned itself off and does not seem to turn back on...

PLEASE someone help me...

I am new to the forum and have been following the write-ups and thought it would be easy... however I never did see the screen like all the youtube videos show with all the movie images in chinese when I turned the project on..

I hope someone is able to help me please.

I am writing this from UK / London.

Thanking you..
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25th Mar 23:15 London TIme

Hi There Everyone...

Update on this item...

turned power-off on wall and after power on and calibration screen shows a phone number screen with +86 and I don't know how to exit or even go back to delete a number...

Hope someone out there is able to help me please....

Thanking you...

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Hi Everyone,

I desperately require help with my just purchased Xiaomi mi projector...

I turned on the unit and it showed me an image to press the centre button, which I did, next it took me to the screen calibration image (shows a box / circle)... I hit the home button and it next took me to the wifi screen..

Mind you everything is all in Chinese here and I can't read or speak it -sorry...

now on the wifi screen I selected my wifi and entered the password... next it showed me what I believe is a telephone number screen and I didn't know what to do here... I was scanning the web to learn what to do and next thing the project turned itself off and does not seem to turn back on...

PLEASE someone help me...

I am new to the forum and have been following the write-ups and thought it would be easy... however I never did see the screen like all the youtube videos show with all the movie images in chinese when I turned the project on..

I hope someone is able to help me please.

I am writing this from UK / London.

Thanking you..
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Ask the people you bought the projector from, they should at least give you some desk support if they actually know what they're selling.
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Ask the people you bought the projector from, they should at least give you some desk support if they actually know what they're selling.
Hi Rocklee,

Thank you for your reply... I have emailed via ebay to the company... ebay usually takes two day turn around to reply with emails, hence was happy to see there is a forum on the Xiaomi and perhaps felt someone before me might have come across the same issue.. Hence the call for help...

Hopefully I will get help either with the supplier or an AVSforum member perhaps who has experienced this same situation.

Thank you for writing to me..

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Hi Rocklee,

Thank you for your reply... I have emailed via ebay to the company... ebay usually takes two day turn around to reply with emails, hence was happy to see there is a forum on the Xiaomi and perhaps felt someone before me might have come across the same issue.. Hence the call for help...

Hopefully I will get help either with the supplier or an AVSforum member perhaps who has experienced this same situation.

Thank you for writing to me..

regards
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Use google translate app , camera function (Chinese to English ). No need to enter any phone number etc. Just skip all the steps.
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Hello There everyone,

Sorted the phone number screen issue

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I have been lucky as I got help from a work colleague and for those who come-by this similar problem on the far top right hand corner the button states ignore/bypass this screen and that's what is needed to exit the phone number entry screen.

All sorted for now and next is for me to get used to the projector and what english settings I can work with.

Thank you for writing to me..

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Tempted by this or this Philips screeneo 2. Got a few questions to narrow it down though:
1) Can it be used as a speaker without turning on the projector element? I've seen that it has a line in and would like to be able to play music through the speakers without having the distraction of the visuals
2) How noisy is the fan? Currently have a JMgo view which I enjoy but due its small size the fans can be quite distracting in quieter scenes.
3) Can it be set to boot straight into HDMI input rather than having to go through the menu system? Just to make things simpler for the girlfriend/guests to use
4) Are there manual buttons on the projector itself? Again with the JMgo view, I'm starting to have issues with the remote and when it finally packs in I'm unlikely to be able to get a replacement which with its lack of on chassis buttons beyond on/off means it will become a paper weight

Thanks for any advice you can offer.
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Hi All
I recently purchased this projector from ********. I wanted to change the menu's to English as posted by users on the web. Unfortunately the USB port does not seem to recognize my thumb drive. I have tried 3 different thumb drives with no luck. It almost seems like the USB port is either broken or has been disabled through firmware. Has anyone else experienced this or any other options I could try before I send the unit back?
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I recently purchased this projector from ********. I wanted to change the menu's to English as posted by users on the web. Unfortunately the USB port does not seem to recognize my thumb drive. I have tried 3 different thumb drives with no luck. It almost seems like the USB port is either broken or has been disabled through firmware. Has anyone else experienced this or any other options I could try before I send the unit back?
Thanks for your help
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Sure wish they would just bring out an English version to avoid all the BS issues people are having. Doesn't make me eager to give this a go since it seems you're having to ask random people on the net how to use it and bypass issues.
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Pardon my laziness to dig through all 13 pages but a couple questions. Looking to pull trigger in Q3 this year.

1.) Is this projector worth buyable for the money? i.e. it's actually worth it for the $

2.) Anything else coming in the next 6 months that you guys know off similar to this from a performance and price perspective? The Viewsonic was on sale for $2,300 which is the limit of what I want to spend...unfortunately it's backup but I can keep an eye on it.
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Pardon my laziness to dig through all 13 pages but a couple questions. Looking to pull trigger in Q3 this year.

1.) Is this projector worth buyable for the money? i.e. it's actually worth it for the $

2.) Anything else coming in the next 6 months that you guys know off similar to this from a performance and price perspective? The Viewsonic was on sale for $2,300 which is the limit of what I want to spend...unfortunately it's backup but I can keep an eye on it.
i think its worth it. im using it with elite screen's CLR screen, and everyone thinks its a tv, and they think the projector is speaker
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