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150" at about 16ft. I used to have a 120", like the the 150" better!
I have room envy
No way to fit a 150" in our family room.
Is it a 16x9 or a scope? What make and model?
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I have room envy
No way to fit a 150" in our family room.
Is it a 16x9 or a scope? What make and model?
How about the PJ? You need some firepower to light up that size...
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Don't envy me too much. LOL. It's a game room that I set up for my home theater as well. I have kids, so I need to be able to share the room. Texas houses are known for cheap square footage(relatively speaking). Here is the setup:

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seems like many people have around a 37 degree field of view, which to me is necessary for an immersive "home theater" feel.

I don't imagine folks with direct view sets are actually sitting that close. In most homes it would look pretty bizarre to have seats that close to the wall.

I wonder if I'll ever get a 100" direct-view set in my lifetime...

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I use a system of presentation I call PIA personal image area, where I vary my image size with zoom to suit my needs. Screen size and seating distance is not a straight forward issue for me. What I tried to do in my small theater with a single row of seats is give myself the opportunity to simulate every seat in a modern commercial movie theater including a IMAX digital theater.

My seating distance eyes to screen is 96” or 8” and never changes. From that distance I watch IMAX1.89 content on a 110” max 16:9 area 54x96. I watch scope movies at 104” 40x96. I let all my other content then fall into a range of sizes largest being the 110” all the way down to smallest being 71” 16:9 35x62.

The movie Dunkirk looks great at 110” Wheel of Fortune not so great. The other day I was binge watching old Twilight Zone TV show from the late 50’s early 60’s B&W. Video wasn’t that good back then but looked fantastic zoomed down to 71”. Making it smaller also made it brighter and allowed for some lights on in the room.

The one thing a projector has a TV doesn’t is zoom why not make use of it instead of compromising on starting screen size.
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seems like many people have around a 37 degree field of view, which to me is necessary for an immersive "home theater" feel.

I don't imagine folks with direct view sets are actually sitting that close. In most homes it would look pretty bizarre to have seats that close to the wall.

I wonder if I'll ever get a 100" direct-view set in my lifetime...
I never thought about calculating viewing angles, but mine (9.5ish feet away and a 106" screen) is 44 degrees. I find it to be very immersive; people love it. Getting significantly closer and I have to start "working" to look at the whole screen such as moving head/eyes. I feel at 44 degrees I'm taking in all information comfortably.

According to this, 45-50 degrees is the recommended sweet spot. 37 isn't that great, it's akin to sitting between the center and the rear in a commercial theater. Not a bad place to sit, but not optimal. It is however the minimum THX specification:

http://www.acousticfrontiers.com/2013314viewing-angles/
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I never thought about calculating viewing angles, but mine (9.5ish feet away and a 106" screen) is 44 degrees. I find it to be very immersive; people love it. Getting significantly closer and I have to start "working" to look at the whole screen such as moving head/eyes. I feel at 44 degrees I'm taking in all information comfortably.

According to this, 45-50 degrees is the recommended sweet spot. 37 isn't that great, it's akin to sitting between the center and the rear in a commercial theater. Not a bad place to sit, but not optimal. It is however the minimum THX specification:

http://www.acousticfrontiers.com/2013314viewing-angles/
are you using https://www.projectorscreen.com/proj...en-calculators to calculate the degrees? it shows for 44 degrees and 106" screen as being only 8.75 feet away...
(9.5 feet being 40.8 degrees)

In a commercial theater I probably sit at that 45-50 sweet spot you mention, but at home I have direcTv and the image quality at that distance is really pushing it. Sometimes I wish I had motorized seats so I could get closer or further depending on the image quality or subject matter of my source!
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Hmm. I used this calculator and it came up with 44 degrees. Which is correct?:
https://myhometheater.homestead.com/...alculator.html

Seats, manual or motorized are a must-have! My Lane 3-pc theater seats (got off craigslist for "like new quality" for like $125 a pop) are seriously so comfortable that you can sleep all night in them. Dangerously comfortable!

Two of my seats are manual, and the other is motorized. To be honest, manual does have some benefits over the motorized. Much faster! Motorized are "neat" though.
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13 feet from my 82 inch direct view is very immersive.
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Hmm. I used this calculator and it came up with 44 degrees. Which is correct?:
https://myhometheater.homestead.com/...alculator.html

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hmm, what's funny is that that is the calculator I usually use!

by it, I'm at 40 degrees, so I'll stick with that!
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13 feet from my 82 inch direct view is very immersive.
what brand of binoculars do you use?
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Sometimes I wish I had motorized seats so I could get closer or further depending on the image quality or subject matter of my source!
You don’t need motorized seats you need a movable projector like mine. Shown in my avatar. I can move my projector in less than 10 seconds and simulate every seating distance in a commercial theater including IMAX.
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13 feet from my 82 inch direct view is very immersive.
To each their own but this sounds way too small. For 1080p we run about 10/11 ft to a 100" screen. With 4K I've had to throw conventional seating distance out the window. I find about 8ft from my 100" screen with 4K content feels about right. Closer if it's a scoped (2.35) movie. Unfortunately that really wreaks havoc in my room so I'll be looking to upgrade to a much larger screen when we move to a new place in the fall.
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9" of diagonal for each foot of viewing distance is (more or less) THX recommendation with a 16:9 screen and good content.

From most of what I read, people like to be a bit closer than that. More like 10" to 12" of diagonal for each foot of viewing distance.

I certainly don't feel 'immersed' at 12' from my 85" LCD. When I switched from the 64" to the 85" my wife asked if it really was any bigger! Cripes... Women.
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13 feet from my 82 inch direct view is very immersive.
I thought about getting the Epson LS100 laser front projector but I wanted great black level and contrast. I had a demo of both a $2,000 and $5,000 Sony front projectors and neither had very good contrast or black level, (in a darkened room). So I decided to go with the Samsung UN82MU8000 and I couldn't be happier. My Toshiba 65 inch rear projector was very good back in the day, however the Samsung UN82MU8000 is in another world.

The Toshiba died after about 13 years.
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11’6” for point of eyes to screen which is 100”, also eye level is roughly middle of screen.

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12 feet from 128 inch 16:9
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Interesting thread. I like the theater diagram and the angle. Just look at that diagram, figure out where you "like" sitting in a Movie Theater and match it up your Home Theater. I think I saw THX recommended 36 degrees or something like that. Some of us like to sit closer to the screen and others like to be further back. Variable for sure.


http://www.acousticfrontiers.com/2013314viewing-angles/

Maximum and Recommended THX viewing distances: THX also publishes standards for movie theaters to adhere to for THX certification. THX requires that the back row of seats in a theater have at least a 26 degree viewing angle and recommends a 36 degree viewing angle.

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10-11 feet from a 130" 2.35 which equates to 105" 16:9 when using lens memory.
Keep in mind that is much easier to view a wider screen (CIH) than it is a taller screen, so you will naturally go bigger if using 2.35 screens.

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100" diagonal 16:9 screen, 1080p projector, 8' viewing distance. Would sit a bit closer, but then my feet get in the way of the center channel speaker.
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We sit 10' from a 128" diagonal 2.35:1 screen and 10' 6" from a 122" diagonal 16:9 screen.





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10' viewing distance from a 92" diagonal 16:9 screen with a 1920 x 1080 DLP projector.

It's most disappointing. I shall have to go all-out on some modifications.
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9'6" from 165" diagonal 16:9. Very good with bluray content, has wide viewing angles, but with lower quality youtube type stuff I find it best to sit in middle. With Epson 5030UB, at this size the screen door effect is almost invisible whereas at 130" it was very prominent.
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9" of diagonal for each foot of viewing distance is (more or less) THX recommendation with a 16:9 screen and good content.

From most of what I read, people like to be a bit closer than that. More like 10" to 12" of diagonal for each foot of viewing distance.

I certainly don't feel 'immersed' at 12' from my 85" LCD. When I switched from the 64" to the 85" my wife asked if it really was any bigger! Cripes... Women.
Every time I see a THX reference I feel obliged to come in and remind everyone that THX standards are completely, profoundly and utterly idiotic and written by people who have zero understanding that viewing distance is 100% personal choice.

It's extremely unwise to pay any attention to THX posted rubbish. Find the distance that is most comfortable and enjoyable for you, going by some dumb rules written by some incompetent morons is the worst thing one can do. Some like to sit in the back seat of the movie theater, some in the front seat. It's all ok as long the person viewing a movie enjoys it. If we followed THX standards anytime you walk into a movie theater you'd see an empty room with a pile of 200 people sitting on top of each other in the middle 5 seats.
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Every time I see a THX reference I feel obliged to come in and remind everyone that THX standards are completely, profoundly and utterly idiotic and written by people who have zero understanding that viewing distance is 100% personal choice.

It's extremely unwise to pay any attention to THX posted rubbish. Find the distance that is most comfortable and enjoyable for you, going by some dumb rules written by some incompetent morons is the worst thing one can do. Some like to sit in the back seat of the movie theater, some in the front seat. It's all ok as long the person viewing a movie enjoys it. If we followed THX standards anytime you walk into a movie theater you'd see an empty room with a pile of 200 people sitting on top of each other in the middle 5 seats.
+1 on the "to each his own" sentiment. However, I do think there is a one to one correlation between where you like to sit at a commercial cinema and how close you are at home...In the real world, room constraints (and WAF) are the limiting factor. This includes something not touched upon here: Sound. Particularly since adding Atmos, there is a definite sonic "sweet spot" in the seating.
The biggest (HT humor) change we have made in the last 10 years is adding the second "scope" screen. The wider format really increases the immersion factor (Thanks Craig)
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Every time I see a THX reference I feel obliged to come in and remind everyone that THX standards are completely, profoundly and utterly idiotic and written by people who have zero understanding that viewing distance is 100% personal choice.

It's extremely unwise to pay any attention to THX posted rubbish. Find the distance that is most comfortable and enjoyable for you, going by some dumb rules written by some incompetent morons is the worst thing one can do. Some like to sit in the back seat of the movie theater, some in the front seat. It's all ok as long the person viewing a movie enjoys it. If we followed THX standards anytime you walk into a movie theater you'd see an empty room with a pile of 200 people sitting on top of each other in the middle 5 seats.
SMPTE, THX, IMAX and other standards are great guidelines if you want to build a commercial theater to hold 400-4000 people. The standards start to fall apart in home theaters and the smaller the scale the less useful they are and the more useful personal preference becomes. If a commercial theater has a 60’ high screen and 100 rows of seats as an example. And you sit in row 49, 50 or 51 you are going to have virtually the same viewing experience. If at home you have a 110” screen that is 4.5’ tall and two rows of seats where your first seat is the same immersion as row 50 at the commercial theater your second row wont be like row 51 it will be more like row 75. That’s how scaling works and why compromising takes place and the reason I prefer a single wider row when possible at home. Plus when you go to a movie with another couple you try and sit in the same row.

I used SMPTE, THX and IMAX specs in my single row theater along with knowing my preference for immersion and knowing others have different likes. Some people use zoom I move my projector but I can simulate all most all the seating rows of the 3 standards to suit my guests and my needs. I thought about it as when 2 couples go to a movie or even a couple or when I go alone. Everyone wants to sit so far back. sometime one person says how about here and the others go no lets go back a few rows. And you find a happy medium. When I go alone I sit much closer than the group think normally dictates. I figured why not allow myself that choice at home.
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Of course, everyone is different, but from what I have seen in at home use.....everyone wants the biggest screen possible as that's the entire premis for most is to get a large screen picture. In all but the biggest dedicated rooms, most people are screen limited in how big they can go.......


No matter if it is ceiling height, second row riser height or room width or throw distance, most people have one or more of those problems which constrain them to a smaller screen.


In my 12x12 room, I have the PJ a couple inches from the back wall and the lens opened up as far as possible and with the spandex screen wall 20 something inches into the room, a 121 inch diagonal 16:9 is as big as possible....before the AT screen wall it was 138 inch max........I had plans for a 150, which would have required a hole in the wall to the closet to get a longer throw distance, which I decided not to do at the last minute.

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I have a 16x12 room so I know what you mean. I am at 130" CIH screen and it's a tight fit, but it fits with 2 infinity P360's to the left and right of the screen and the center underneath.

I had bigger rooms before, the main difference with a bigger room (especially much larger rooms) is you don't have to be as perfect on blacking out the walls due to the distance.
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Of course, everyone is different, but from what I have seen in at home use.....everyone wants the biggest screen possible as that's the entire premis for most is to get a large screen picture. In all but the biggest dedicated rooms, most people are screen limited in how big they can go.......


No matter if it is ceiling height, second row riser height or room width or throw distance, most people have one or more of those problems which constrain them to a smaller screen.


In my 12x12 room, I have the PJ a couple inches from the back wall and the lens opened up as far as possible and with the spandex screen wall 20 something inches into the room, a 121 inch diagonal 16:9 is as big as possible....before the AT screen wall it was 138 inch max........I had plans for a 150, which would have required a hole in the wall to the closet to get a longer throw distance, which I decided not to do at the last minute.
If the biggest image possible was the goal everyone would always want to sit in the front row when you go out to a commercial movie theater.

I don’t want the biggest image I can get I want an image appropriate to the distance I am from the screen and the level of immersion I want my field of vision at.

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