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I have been watching with the Auto Iris off for about a week or so. It seems to calm down the wash out look I have been dealing with. More natural to me. It could be a placebo.

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Hi all. Recently picked up a TW5600 (HC2100 equivalent I presume) as part of an upgrade to my aging HT. Previous PJ was ceiling mounted with no lens shift. It's vertical lens centre for a symmetrical picture was close to the top edge of the picture when inverted. From what I can find, it appears that the TW5600 lens is perpendicular to approximately the centre of the image with small adjustments provided by lens shift. Is this true?

A lot of setups in this thread seem to show ceiling mounts that place the lens at or above the top of the image. Are people using keystoning to achieve a square image in these setups? If so, is the impact on the image from the resulting reduction in resolution not an issue? I always thought keystone corrections should be strictly avoided because of the resolution loss. Any help appreciated. Cheers.
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Hi all. Recently picked up a TW5600 (HC2100 equivalent I presume) as part of an upgrade to my aging HT. Previous PJ was ceiling mounted with no lens shift. It's vertical lens centre for a symmetrical picture was close to the top edge of the picture when inverted. From what I can find, it appears that the TW5600 lens is perpendicular to approximately the centre of the image with small adjustments provided by lens shift. Is this true?

A lot of setups in this thread seem to show ceiling mounts that place the lens at or above the top of the image. Are people using keystoning to achieve a square image in these setups? If so, is the impact on the image from the resulting reduction in resolution not an issue? I always thought keystone corrections should be strictly avoided because of the resolution loss. Any help appreciated. Cheers.
Hi,

as I understand, this projector has 15% vertical lens shift, which means you will have to mount it about mid height of screen. Other projectors often have the default lens offset made to be mounted on a table, at about bottom of the screen height, or upside down from the ceiling, at about top of the screen height. Or they have a much greater amount of vertical lens shift for a more flexible installation. Using keystone will reduce the available pixels on the image, affecting both the resolution and the actual definition of the image, since the image won't have the same amount of pixels above and below the center. Unbalanced focus and brightness can also be a problem when using keystone correction.

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Whoops. I must've been checking the wrong model. The Epson actually has more offset than my old Panny - the base being aligned with the top or bottom of the image. All good. As you were.
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i continue to be amazed by this projector. i recently threw up velvet everywhere in my room and swapped the screen size from 140" 16:9 to 147" 2.39:1 and the results are breathtaking (sitting 13' away). i have the projector mounted 19' away from the screen running on full lamp power (the screen gain is estimated at ~.6 because of the white over black spandex). having the image completely engulfed in a deep inky black is amazing, and now i can finally control the display settings independent of trying to make letterbox bars appear as dark as possible--that alone was worth the effort of these 2 projects. i'd say the black levels of this projector in the same room but with dark grey painted drywall were okay, sometimes it would look better if the image was brighter but in dark scenes it was apparent how not dark the letterbox bars were. now that there aren't any and there is zero ambient light reflecting off of my walls back onto the screen i feel like i just upgraded my projector. i took a lights on/off example below. if anyone has a dedicated room to try the velvet in i would highly recommend it.



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Very, very nice serith!

For those of us without a dedicated room, has anyone tried an ND filter to improve black levels? I have a small room and the light output even on eco cinema is immense compared to my previous pj. It looks like it could easily handle being stepped down using a filter without an unacceptable loss in peak light levels.
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Very, very nice serith!

For those of us without a dedicated room, has anyone tried an ND filter to improve black levels? I have a small room and the light output even on eco cinema is immense compared to my previous pj. It looks like it could easily handle being stepped down using a filter without an unacceptable loss in peak light levels.
have you tried using a lower gain screen?
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have you tried using a lower gain screen?
Not yet. I was just reading threads here about ND filters and it seems like a lower gain screen could be a better option for rooms with poor light control. Will look into a DIY repaint once I've got everything run in nicely.
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Not yet. I was just reading threads here about ND filters and it seems like a lower gain screen could be a better option for rooms with poor light control. Will look into a DIY repaint once I've got everything run in nicely.
i see a lot of people have good success with ALR screens where light control is poor. i used one for a short time and it was really nice that you could have some lights on in the room and the image wouldn't wash out. i wasn't a fan of the hot-spotting & sparkles though.
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Not yet. I was just reading threads here about ND filters and it seems like a lower gain screen could be a better option for rooms with poor light control. Will look into a DIY repaint once I've got everything run in nicely.


There is at least one very good thread about DIY ALR painting in the screen section of this forum. I’ll try to find it and post it here once I have some time.


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Hi, i have noticed, when i zoom the image to min. and focus i can see a lot of dust blobs. My Room is clean and also the Airfilter. My Projector only has about 150h on it. Does someone else see this kind of dust blobs when zoom to min and try to focus on the blobs?
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Not yet. I was just reading threads here about ND filters and it seems like a lower gain screen could be a better option for rooms with poor light control. Will look into a DIY repaint once I've got everything run in nicely.
Those ND filters have me thinking. I know it would have to be glass. That makes it expensive

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Hi, i have noticed, when i zoom the image to min. and focus i can see a lot of dust blobs. My Room is clean and also the Airfilter. My Projector only has about 150h on it. Does someone else see this kind of dust blobs when zoom to min and try to focus on the blobs?


I’ve had dust blobs on an older model, although not nearly as severe as these. You should claim for repair/cleaning under warranty.


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i have seen this kind of dust blobs on my 2040 as well. i can only see them on a black screen if i move my projector very close to my screen (~6ft) so i get a small image and then try to focus on the green blobs. on normal viewing distance i can't really see them, so my question is, do other see them as well when moving the projector closer to the screen?

otherwise i will contact epson to clean them

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Those ND filters have me thinking. I know it would have to be glass. That makes it expensive

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Large, high quality ones run into the hundreds of dollars in NZ. Might not be the easiest thing to mount on this pj either.
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i have seen this kind of dust blobs on my 2040 as well. i can only see them on a black screen if i move my projector very close to my screen (~6ft) so i get a small image and then try to focus on the green blobs. on normal viewing distance i can't really see them, so my question is, do other see them as well when moving the projector closer to the screen?
I could try before I mount my projector tonight. Then again, I'm not sure I want to go looking for problems just yet. Heh. Dust build up on the panels or lenses is pretty much inevitable over time I would think. A careful clean with canned air worked on my Panny when blobs became visible, but I don't know how accessible the panels are in the Epsons.
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@Fatteh

is your projector brand new?

would be nice if you could test this, maybe this kind of dust blobs where there from the beginning
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is your projector brand new?

would be nice if you could test this, maybe this kind of dust blobs where there from the beginning
Yep. I'll try it tonight.
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I could try before I mount my projector tonight. Then again, I'm not sure I want to go looking for problems just yet. Heh. Dust build up on the panels or lenses is pretty much inevitable over time I would think. A careful clean with canned air worked on my Panny when blobs became visible, but I don't know how accessible the panels are in the Epsons.


They are very accessible, under the main board. But you should remove the whole lens and Lightpath module before using canned air. To avoid pushing dust into other parts of the projector. These are fairly easy to disassemble if you’re comfortable with it.


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Hi All,

I am the author of the recent "Oh No! Another what should I buy post! (primarily for outdoors)" thread who finally decided on a 2150. It should arrive today or Monday. As I said in my thread, I am going to use it primarily for outdoor viewing. I was hoping to solicit some examples of a proper setup with respect to good sources and audio set ups. I plan on using a directv wireless mini genie, my friend's Apple TV 4K and my laptop computer. I may also buy a Roku Streaming Stick+. I can also lug out my blueray player. Based on my initial research, I may get a one or two bluetooth speakers (Looking at the AOMAIS GO Bluetooth Speakers that are waterproof, 30W and allow Stereo Pairing). Since one of my applications will be close to a pool, this seems like a decent option.

Anything else I should consider? I am new to the world of projection TV.

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@Tallen234 It should be great for outside. It definitely gets bright enough. Has enough throw. Did you get it and set it up?

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I received a epson 2150 with seemingly poor focus uniformity. Is there any fix for this or is this something i need to return?
https://i.imgur.com/Btv9DbQ.jpg
(the bottom right corners have less focus then other parts of the screen.)

hope the image on camera does it justice.

Here, these photos show it better. Moving the text to the top of the screen, then to the bottom.
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I received a epson 2150 with seemingly poor focus uniformity. Is there any fix for this or is this something i need to return?
https://i.imgur.com/Btv9DbQ.jpg
(the bottom right corners have less focus then other parts of the screen.)

hope the image on camera does it justice.

Here, these photos show it better. Moving the text to the top of the screen, then to the bottom.
https://i.imgur.com/dQfPW6s.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/tLgJZqc.jpg
mine has this problem but from left to right (left side of the screen is sharper than the right). when i watch a movie i don't notice it though. it's hard to be hyper-critical given the cost of the projector.
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i want to use it as a second screen and my eyes hurt having to read it. They try to focus on the text and its not 100% possible and just annoying...

I guess i have to call amazon. It was a cyber monday deal....So im sad that discount is now forfeit..But i dont want this issue.
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Yes! I love it. I've only used it two nights, one setting up and the other watching ELF with the family. I used a white blanket taped to the garage door and it still looked very good.

I bought a Visual Apex 144" screen and will use that for the big parties. But it does take some work to set it up (those snaps drove me crazy the first time) I'm now looking for a simpler screen for use on the occasional evening when I want to watch a game with a buddy or two. I bought a relatively cheap VonHaus 16:9 Projector Screen H66" x W110" that I want to hang from hook attached to my garage door frame. Hopefully I can get it to hang smooth enough for casual viewing. I also bought a Roku stick and just ordered a wireless Genie from Directv. Good times!




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Can anyone help me with the lens shift calculations on this? Epson Projection Calculator has lens shift disabled for the 2150.

I’ll have a throw distance of 13’ and a screen size of 110”, ceiling mounted. What is the lens shift capable of doing, up and down? I need to figure out what mount to get.
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what I understand from the manual is that this projector can’t do more than about 10% vertical lens shift, and its lens is centered with the middle of the screen by default. This means the only options to set it up without using keystone are a shelf or a ceiling mount that goes low enough to reach the middle of the screen -10% screen height.


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The manual is pretty confusing. Reading the diagram, I think/hope it’s measuring to the base of the image rather than the center of it. I don’t know if that’s the case though.
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what I understand from the manual is that this projector can’t do more than about 10% vertical lens shift, and its lens is centered with the middle of the screen by default. This means the only options to set it up without using keystone are a shelf or a ceiling mount that goes low enough to reach the middle of the screen -10% screen height.
I had originally thought this as well, but after setting it up I found the base of the projector is aligned with the base of the image (or the top of the image if ceiling mounted). So the lens centre is about 2 inches from the edge of a 16:9 image. In a ceiling mount, the lens shift will allow the image to move about 5% up and 10% below a centred image. In my room this is more than enough to use lens shift to keep the bottom of both 16:9 and 21:9 images at the lower edge of my screen.
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