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Here's a picture of the projector with the screen down. Sorry about the mess.....
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I can place it 10 to 12 feet from the screen.

Would like to keep the actual screen, it drops in front of a tv (60" plasma) that we use for daly tv and gaming.

I know this is not an optimal situation but would like to replace the projector for now, just debating in the 3100 vs 2150 it's crazy stuff, image looks almost the same only the 3100 is bigger and maybe a little brighter. Just wondering if the 3100 is really a better choice, if it's quieter (read that the 2150 can be loud) and has better picture settings options. I even looked at the Benq 2050 but don't want to face any rainbow effect problems.

As i said, both Epson's cost about the same, brand new from Amazon. I think you can't go wrong with any of those two.

I also looked into 75-85 LCD's but there is not a chance that the experience of a 100' plus screen is the same as with a tv.

Again, thanks for your help.
DLP's have lower color lumens in bright modes, generally speaking.

Unfortunately an ALR screen that will not artifact at that distance is very expensive, and you want to keep the screen anyway. A lower priced ALR screen could be used if you're ok with visual artifacts or can place the projector further back.

How about painting the walls in something darker?

If the two options above are not possible I suggest getting the brightest projector possible.

Dynamic mode (brightest) has a green tint, which may be fine for some sports.

The Panasonic for instance, from the reviews, can do:
~1800lm on Dynamic (brightest) with lamp on High
~800lm on Vivid
~1000lm on Game with Low lamp
~1200lm on Game with Normal lamp

The other three models can do much more. For instance, the HC3700 can do 2362lm in Natural and 3137lm in Dynamic, both in Medium lamp. High lamp can be noisy.





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You can get away with getting refurbished:
https://epson.com/Clearance-Center/H...inment/c/cc301
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I might paint the walls darker, as we are planning on replacing the tiles.

Looks that the 2150 might be the way to go considering lumens and price, i'm afraid of getting it refurbished because i've hear some really bad comments in other posts.

I'll think about it today and order one of the 2, the 3700 out of my budget.

Thanks a lot for your help
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I might paint the walls darker, as we are planning on replacing the tiles.

Looks that the 2150 might be the way to go considering lumens and price, i'm afraid of getting it refurbished because i've hear some really bad comments in other posts.

I'll think about it today and order one of the 2, the 3700 out of my budget.

Thanks a lot for your help
If there is something wrong with the projector Epson will send another one.

If the Panasonic has issues during the day, get the brightest model you can afford.

This calculator show the position of the projector relative to the screen. At the bottom of the page, there is a section called Lens shift:
https://www.projectorcentral.com/Eps...ulator-pro.htm
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Hi - I currently have an 8-yr old tw5900 (not sure what it is in the US) that now needs a new bulb, and since it has some annoying colour banding across the top and bottom of image - I'm taking the opportunity to replace/upgrade... and the tw5650 looks like the ideal.


I run it in a mostly light-controlled environment (black-out blinds, but light occasionally seeps in).
The screen is a (seriously cheap yet good Crosby & Bown electric affair - I think 1.0 gain) 120", and it's mounted c.14' away.
I run it via HDMI from my amp (Blu-ray or TV into amp) so won't use the sound.



But a few questions:
- how much of an upgrade is it to go from the tw5900 to tw5650? Will I notice any real difference, or would it be more a like-for-like replacement?

- how loud is it really? I've heard reports ranging from unbearable to unnoticeable, but the 5650 is supposedly only 3db louder. I don't really notice the 5900 in Eco, and quickly get used to it when ramped up (e.g. 3D). I'll be ceiling mounting (if I can get the supposedly "universal" ceiling mount to fit the holes), and sitting pretty much underneath.
- what does horizontal keystone do to the image in terms of introducing artefacts, or distortions? I fear the ceiling mount I have may require the use of a very slight amount - I hope not but just possibly it might. Is it an image-killer?

- What's the 3D like? My one gripe was that the 5900 really looked quite dim in comparison when in 3D - not unsurprisingly - but does the 5650 fare any better? I guess if the Eco mode is brighter, the 3D will look brighter, but still look relatively dim to the new Eco mode. And is the actual 3D any better?
- Will my 3D glasses still work with the 5650?


And how often does this model get a price reduction? I see it's been as low as c.£500 in the past - one-off sales - but is c.£700 cheapest at the moment (and same price as the 5600).



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Hello there,


I just bought a tw5600 (= HC2100 in Europe) and my unit has some very annoying and distracting coil whine noise. It is very noticeable in ECO mode, which is kind of a deal breaker as normal mode is way too loud. The sound is even noticeable during movies because of its very specific high-pitched tone.


Is it normal to have coil whine with this projector or should I ask for a replacement unit ? Does anybody else here encountered the same issue ?


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Hello there,


I just bought a tw5600 (= HC2100 in Europe) and my unit has some very annoying and distracting coil whine noise. It is very noticeable in ECO mode, which is kind of a deal breaker as normal mode is way too loud. The sound is even noticeable during movies because of its very specific high-pitched tone.


Is it normal to have coil whine with this projector or should I ask for a replacement unit ? Does anybody else here encountered the same issue ?


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100% not normal for these. Sounds like bad fan possibly. I'd ask for warranty on it

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100% not normal for these. Sounds like bad fan possibly. I'd ask for warranty on it

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Thanks for the reply! That is what I assumed as well. I just contacted my retailer that accepted to trade my unit for a new one. I hope this one won't have any more problems!
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Hi - I currently have an 8-yr old tw5900 (not sure what it is in the US) that now needs a new bulb, and since it has some annoying colour banding across the top and bottom of image - I'm taking the opportunity to replace/upgrade... and the tw5650 looks like the ideal.


I run it in a mostly light-controlled environment (black-out blinds, but light occasionally seeps in).
The screen is a (seriously cheap yet good Crosby & Bown electric affair - I think 1.0 gain) 120", and it's mounted c.14' away.
I run it via HDMI from my amp (Blu-ray or TV into amp) so won't use the sound.



But a few questions:
- how much of an upgrade is it to go from the tw5900 to tw5650? Will I notice any real difference, or would it be more a like-for-like replacement?

- how loud is it really? I've heard reports ranging from unbearable to unnoticeable, but the 5650 is supposedly only 3db louder. I don't really notice the 5900 in Eco, and quickly get used to it when ramped up (e.g. 3D). I'll be ceiling mounting (if I can get the supposedly "universal" ceiling mount to fit the holes), and sitting pretty much underneath.
- what does horizontal keystone do to the image in terms of introducing artefacts, or distortions? I fear the ceiling mount I have may require the use of a very slight amount - I hope not but just possibly it might. Is it an image-killer?

- What's the 3D like? My one gripe was that the 5900 really looked quite dim in comparison when in 3D - not unsurprisingly - but does the 5650 fare any better? I guess if the Eco mode is brighter, the 3D will look brighter, but still look relatively dim to the new Eco mode. And is the actual 3D any better?
- Will my 3D glasses still work with the 5650?


And how often does this model get a price reduction? I see it's been as low as c.£500 in the past - one-off sales - but is c.£700 cheapest at the moment (and same price as the 5600).



Ta muchly.
The TW5900 has a large chassis and this helps with the noise versus projectors with smaller ones.

The 3D glasses for the TW5900 are different from the TW5650. You can consult this thread: https://www.avforums.com/threads/eps...hread.1531369/
Do note that on some 3LCD projectors individual units there have been cases of ghosting in 3D.

Black level of these projectors are relatively the same.

What color are the walls?

Do not use Keystone, it's software and will degrade the image. With the TW5650 get a mount that can lower it so it does not have to be tilted:
Use this calculator for the TW5650 / HC2150:
https://www.projectorcentral.com/Eps...ulator-pro.htm

The calculator shows where the screen is in relation to the projector. At the bottom of the page there is a section called Lens shift. After you input the screen size, this is what the lens shift is capable of.

The TW5900 does not have lens shift as far as I can tell.


How about a TW6700? It's brighter than all of these and has lens shift:
https://www.projectorcentral.com/Eps...ulator-pro.htm


Both the TW5650 and TW6700 will be brighter than the TW5900, especially the TW6700.
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Hi all,

A quick question regarding the Epson 5650 (identical to the 2150).
Has anyone experienced anything shown in my attached photo's. I seem to have acquired a Magenta coloured blob and more recently a second blob of cyan. I've tried a pixel exerciser to no avail so was wondering if this is in fact a Pixel related problem or just dust on the RGB panels. The projector was perfect from new with no noticeable blown or stuck pixels and this problem has only recently manifested after 300 hrs of use.

Any suggestions to what it might be would be much appreciated...

I got the same, its purple on a new unit with only couple hours use…
Do you still have the problem, maybe it can fix itself over time ?

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I bought one off of epson's refurb clearance page. 499$. Sometimes its avail. Sometimes not. Just have to check often. I have a 20$ pull down screen that i ripped off and stretched over frame 116 inches. Its white and god knows what the gain is. Used with old infocus in72 for (15 years) and it looked amazing with nothing to compare it to. Anyway , the point: black levels seem to be an issue on 2150. The solution seems be a low gain screen. Silver ticket .95 seems to be the best but pricy. Carls flexigray seems to be the best deal and seems to be a .9 gain? Has anyone tried flexigray and is it .9? Thanks mike
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I bought one off of epson's refurb clearance page. 499$. Sometimes its avail. Sometimes not. Just have to check often. I have a 20$ pull down screen that i ripped off and stretched over frame 116 inches. Its white and god knows what the gain is. Used with old infocus in72 for (15 years) and it looked amazing with nothing to compare it to. Anyway , the point: black levels seem to be an issue on 2150. The solution seems be a low gain screen. Silver ticket .95 seems to be the best but pricy. Carls flexigray seems to be the best deal and seems to be a .9 gain? Has anyone tried flexigray and is it .9? Thanks mike
Official manufacturer claims are not be taken literally:
https://www.avsforum.com/forum/23-sc...l#post58823388

The best option is to use a paint mix. For that create a new thread here:
https://www.avsforum.com/forum/110-diy-screen-section/
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I bought one off of epson's refurb clearance page. 499$. Sometimes its avail. Sometimes not. Just have to check often. I have a 20$ pull down screen that i ripped off and stretched over frame 116 inches. Its white and god knows what the gain is. Used with old infocus in72 for (15 years) and it looked amazing with nothing to compare it to. Anyway , the point: black levels seem to be an issue on 2150. The solution seems be a low gain screen. Silver ticket .95 seems to be the best but pricy. Carls flexigray seems to be the best deal and seems to be a .9 gain? Has anyone tried flexigray and is it .9? Thanks mike
You could do spandex on your existing frame. A layer of white over a layer of black. There is a DIY screen section where you can get more information. It works well with my 2150.
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wow, thanks for the useful information, i assumed they were real numbers, not just sorta guides.
Thanks
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You could do spandex on your existing frame. A layer of white over a layer of black. There is a DIY screen section where you can get more information. It works well with my 2150.
thanks for the info, i will look into the spandex
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Watch out for 3d on this because there seems to be alot of issues.... now had faulty/purple ghosting 2 times in a row with new 5650's.
Can be seen here : https://postimg.cc/gallery/cJrs4Sr (pics are from 3d modes on last jedi,beauty & beast,guardians 2,beowulf,tron ps3 and crysis 1 xbox)
Its not always visible and only happens with certain scenes/colors and changing settings don't matter much.
And can rule out its because of other equipment, because I didn't happen on dlp and a 2011 LG passive 3d lcd tv with the same content

Unfortunately I also had the same problem but worse on a couple of the last generation LG passive 3d lcd 4ktvs from 2016.
Which lead me to believe there just bad quality control on 3d lcds in general because alot dont even use it.

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Epson 2150 PJ not Powering ON - Need HELP Pls

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Need your help please....
Switched on my 2150 but it not powering ON. Then, I tried to connect the power source to another outlet & confirmed that power source not an issue but something wrong with the Projector.
Tried to remove Air filter & cleaned but did not help.
Simply no indication in PJ & it is just idle.
Bought sometimes in Sep'2018 & it was working fine till yesterday.

Do you know if it is still under Warranty or any tips, greatly appreciated.

thanks in advance
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OK, just checked Epson site for Warranty and it says below:
Warranty Expiration: 7/23/20

This gives me some time to relax now....
Do you know if they will just replace the PJ?
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OK, just checked Epson site for Warranty and it says below:
Warranty Expiration: 7/23/20

This gives me some time to relax now....
Do you know if they will just replace the PJ?
Yes Epson's warranty service is one of the best in the business and most likely they will send you a refurbished projector as a replacement.

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Yes Epson's warranty service is one of the best in the business and most likely they will send you a refurbished projector as a replacement.
Thank you for a quick response.
Do you think I should just accept a Refurbished one if they send one as i have no idea about that? Or, should i still insist for a new one?
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Thank you for a quick response.
Do you think I should just accept a Refurbished one if they send one as i have no idea about that? Or, should i still insist for a new one?
They may give you the option of sending yours in to get repaired and it would take a few weeks but to expect a new projector to replace your almost 2 year old unit is asking for a lot. I would take what you can get. It is true the quality control in their refurbished projectors is not that great so if you get a bad one just keep sending it back until you get a good one. Once your current warranty expires your SOL on getting anything. If your more comfortable in how you cared for your unit by all means insist they repair yours but you will need to wait.

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They may give you the option of sending yours in to get repaired and it would take a few weeks but to expect a new projector to replace your almost 2 year old unit is asking for a lot. I would take what you can get. It is true the quality control in their refurbished projectors is not that great so if you get a bad one just keep sending it back until you get a good one. Once your current warranty expires your SOL on getting anything. If your more comfortable in how you cared for your unit by all means insist they repair yours but you will need to wait.
Very helpful information/tips indeed.
Sorry to keep troubling you again but please ignore my ignorance.
My only big concern is that i had to put lot of efforts in my Basement (suspended ceiling) in mounting the PJ in the wood stud and now again I need to remove & fix the new one back.
Attached my PJ set up as it is.
Will I be able to just fix the new PJ onto that clamp without having to again removing the whole PJ Mount?
Any tips here how people manage this?
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Very helpful information/tips indeed.
Sorry to keep troubling you again but please ignore my ignorance.
My only big concern is that i had to put lot of efforts in my Basement (suspended ceiling) in mounting the PJ in the wood stud and now again I need to remove & fix the new one back.
Attached my PJ set up as it is.
Will I be able to just fix the new PJ onto that clamp without having to again removing the whole PJ Mount?
Any tips here how people manage this?

Hi,

That mount seems to be one of those adjustable mounts, so, there should be no reason for having to remove the mount. Usually, the projector manual has the exact measurements, or you can take them directly from the projector, then adjust the mount before you mount the new projector.


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So nobody here that sometimes sees purple 3d ghosting ?
Also to bad there is aliasing noticeable on some edges in 3d, did not see that on dlp.
Anyone know if the '4k' models improve that even though 3d mode is still max 1080p ?
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I'd try also a general Reset of all settings, in the main menu, just in case. Sometimes it works fixing something misconfigured.
I just watched a bd 3d documentary on my hc2045 great 3d no aliasing at all, no strange shadows, rare crosstalk.

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No doesnt fix it, either I'm having really bad luck or there's just bad quality control because I tried 3 and all had problems:
First one had a green spot and stopped working after one day.(could not test 3d)
Second one had 3d issues + purple dot and third one same 3d issues green spot + green dot...

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Hi guys - I am really confused and was hoping someone can help out. Im sure this must be answered somewhere but I was unable to find it

I am new to projectors and I am SO confused with how to watch a movie from, say, Netflix. I cannot figure out which connections to use. By the way I am using this outdoors so its not a permanently installed projector if that helps.

It seems like the wireless options dont support copyrighted content is that right? I did manage to connect my laptop to the Epson using the Wireless feature (not screen mirroring), but I get no picture when I do that...I am assuming its because it doesnt support copyright material over wireless? Is that right or am I having a different issue?

Assuming there is no way to stream something wirelessly, I am on to physical connections. I have a tablet that does not support HDMI. I have two Dell XPS 13s that dont have USB-C...they only have an older USB port. What would be the best way to connect if wireless isnt an option? Do I need to find a USB to HDMI converter or something like that?

Sorry but I am finding it so confusing to figure out which options wont work for copyright material and which are the best options I am left with...

Thanks.
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DVD/BR Timeout?

I've been having a weird issue with my HC 2150 and was wondering if anyone has any thoughts on it.

I typically use it for watching movies on my AppleTV and playing games on the Nintendo Switch, but we recently had some internet outages and decided to use the Sony 4K DVD player. After about 15 minutes of watching w/o issue, the PJ just shuts off. No indication as to why when viewing the lights on the PJ so I can't diagnose it that way. I can turn it right back on and restart the movie, then it shuts off again in 15 minutes.

I've tried switching inputs on my Yamaha RX-V681 receiver, as well as HDMI cables from the DVD to Yamaha, and even put in an old Sony Blu-Ray player instead of the 4K DVD and the issue still persists. However, I have zero issues with both the AppleTV and Switch.

Anyone have any thoughts on what could be causing this? It seems so weird that it's just happening with disc players. It almost seems like it's going to sleep or something, but I have Sleep Mode off and bumped the timer up to the max (30 min) so that doesn't make sense.

Appreciate any thoughts you may have!
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I've been having a weird issue with my HC 2150 and was wondering if anyone has any thoughts on it.

I typically use it for watching movies on my AppleTV and playing games on the Nintendo Switch, but we recently had some internet outages and decided to use the Sony 4K DVD player. After about 15 minutes of watching w/o issue, the PJ just shuts off. No indication as to why when viewing the lights on the PJ so I can't diagnose it that way. I can turn it right back on and restart the movie, then it shuts off again in 15 minutes.

I've tried switching inputs on my Yamaha RX-V681 receiver, as well as HDMI cables from the DVD to Yamaha, and even put in an old Sony Blu-Ray player instead of the 4K DVD and the issue still persists. However, I have zero issues with both the AppleTV and Switch.

Anyone have any thoughts on what could be causing this? It seems so weird that it's just happening with disc players. It almost seems like it's going to sleep or something, but I have Sleep Mode off and bumped the timer up to the max (30 min) so that doesn't make sense.

Appreciate any thoughts you may have!
Make sure the HDMI link settings are all disabled.
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