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Nine years ago, I bought the HomeCinema 720 for $1299. That's been my projector until I got the 2150 on Black Friday from Best Buy for $649.

According to the CPI inflation calculator, the 720 would be $1481.14 if bought today.

I can't believe that the 2150, which costs LESS THAN HALF of the 720, has more than twice the brightness (I mean in the lowest "Cinema" mode, I almost need my shades!), twice the resolution, is 3D...I have no words. This projector is just amazing, and I'm so glad I got it.

The only issue was that I had to ceiling mount it, so that cost another $17. I'd built a little shelf for the 720, so now I guess a plant will grace its surface.

Looks like it just went back up to $699, but it's still a steal as far as I'm concerned.
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I just picked up a spare bulb, too for 10% off -- the coupon code WEPAAR works (at epson.com). I'd gone through 4 bulbs for the 720. For the cost of those bulbs, I could've bought this projector!
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I bought Epson 2150 from BB last week. Now i'm planning to buy a 110 inch Silver ticket fixed screen.
i have a question here.... I can have have only a max throw distance of 11 feet 10 inch in my basement room, but Projector Central is recommending 13.2 ( with 1.31 zoom).

If I go with 11' 10" throw distance, I have to increase the zoom to 1.46 Zoom (as per ProjectorCentral).
Will increasing the zoom impact my picture quality? I'm in basement room and its mostly dark, no issues with light.

Or should I buy 100 inch screen or 106 inch?

Please advice

Thank you !!
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Bought 2150 over the Thanksgiving weekend. I'm using the Cine3D grey screen so my old BenQ 2050 feels a little too dark. This one is bright enough to overcome this problem while giving me a decent enough black level. Pretty happy.
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Bought 2150 over the Thanksgiving weekend. I'm using the Cine3D grey screen so my old BenQ 2050 feels a little too dark. This one is bright enough to overcome this problem while giving me a decent enough black level. Pretty happy.
Curious, how long did you have the Benq ?, I'm surprised you're in the market to replace a PJ, when the replacement is still a current model.


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I bought Epson 2150 from BB last week. Now i'm planning to buy a 110 inch Silver ticket fixed screen.
i have a question here.... I can have have only a max throw distance of 11 feet 10 inch in my basement room, but Projector Central is recommending 13.2 ( with 1.31 zoom).

If I go with 11' 10" throw distance, I have to increase the zoom to 1.46 Zoom (as per ProjectorCentral).
Will increasing the zoom impact my picture quality? I'm in basement room and its mostly dark, no issues with light.

Or should I buy 100 inch screen or 106 inch?

Please advice

Thank you !!
should be fine. i run 110" @ 12' 6" myself. if you do get the silver ticket i would highly recommend the 1.0 gain screen. 1.1 @ that distance is too bright. i'm actually considering getting the 0.95 screen myself to further help with black levels.


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... i have a question here.... I can have have only a max throw distance of 11 feet 10 inch in my basement room, but Projector Central is recommending 13.2 ( with 1.31 zoom). ...
The projection calculator at projectorcentral.com does not recommend throw distance. When you enter your projector model and screen sizes it displays a range of throw distances that the projector can accomodate with its zoom lens. It simply defaults to the center point of the zoom range, but you can place the projector anywhere within that range.
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i've tinkered with the settings on my pj extensively. i'll happily share the settings with you if you want to try them out. heading to sleep now but will post them tomorrow if you want. i have tailored my settings for the best black levels possible (i think).
Can your share your settings please if you don't mind? I am too lazy to mess around. Thanks in advance
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Finally got my Elunevison Reference 4k 120" screen today. This is how it looked in my driveway where they left it. Sunday is the day for everything to get ran and installed.. 8 years in the making.

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Well I've had my 2150 exactly 5 days and I had it stop working. Called tech support and they think it's a faulty lamp so in 2-5 days I'll find out. Pretty disappointing. Hopefully its the only problem I have.
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Curious, how long did you have the Benq ?, I'm surprised you're in the market to replace a PJ, when the replacement is still a current model.
I've had BenQ for about 18 months. The reason I'm in the market to replace BenQ is mainly because I switched to a Cine3D grey screen and BenQ looks a bit too dark since.
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I have calibrate my epson 5650 [2150]. At default cinema settings the image was flat with no depth with strong green and yellow. After calibration i noticed a big improvement in color and depth in the image. Today a will measure contrast with and without the iris.
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I have calibrate my epson 5650 [2150]. At default cinema settings the image was flat with no depth with strong green and yellow. After calibration i noticed a big improvement in color and depth in the image. Today a will measure contrast with and without the iris.
What knd of calibration did you do? Full calibration?

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I calibrate the color temp, gamma and colors in brightness saturation and hue in all modes. Even Dynamic give me tha same picture as cinema and only at 90-100 ire the green saw up a little. The difference is only in white but i think i can fix it. The biggest changes i did was in color brightness, it was too much and the colors was flat with no shades. Bright cinema has wrong gamma, after 50 ire is under 1,8. Its a trick so the image looks brighter.
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I calibrate the color temp, gamma and colors in brightness saturation and hue in all modes. Even Dynamic give me tha same picture as cinema and only at 90-100 ire the green saw up a little. The difference is only in white but i think i can fix it. The biggest changes i did was in color brightness, it was too much and the colors was flat with no shades. Bright cinema has wrong gamma, after 50 ire is under 1,8. Its a trick so the image looks brighter.
Are you in the Maryland area...

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No, i am from Greece.
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No, i am from Greece.
Damn. It's hard to find people to do calibration. I don't trust Best buy for some reason. They gave me a list of the tools the guy has and it seemed like he had everything but just something about it.

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I can give the settings and if they dont work with your setup you can just reset!
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I can give the settings and if they dont work with your setup you can just reset!
True. I would appreciate it. I wonder how big the variance is between projectors? I know TVS can be really big

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Here is cinema mode.
Brightness 50 [Adjustable]
Contrast 50 [Adjustable]
Color Saturation 50 [Adjustable]
Tint 50
Sharpness 0 [Adjustable]
Color temp 3
Customized:
Offset R 48
Offset G 50
Offset B 50
Gain R 50
Gain G 42
Gain B 51
Image Enhancment: [Adjustable]
Noise Reduction 0
MPEG Noise Reduction 1
Detail Enhancement 70
Advanced:
Gamma Customized:
0 -1 1 0 0 0 0 0 +1 Yes cinema mode has great gamma
RGBCMY:
Hue Saturation Brightness
R 48 52 35
G 50 48 35
B 60 35 50
C 48 50 10
M 42 49 30
Y 55 20 80
Epson Super White: off [Adjustable]
Signal:
Advanced:
HDMI Video Range: Expanded [Adjustable]
The image i get with these settings is almost the same in all modes when i calibrate them.
HDMI Video Range Epson Super White and Brightness are the settings that you must adjust to your setup.
Good luck!
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Here is cinema mode.
Brightness 50 [Adjustable]
Contrast 50 [Adjustable]
Color Saturation 50 [Adjustable]
Tint 50
Sharpness 0 [Adjustable]
Color temp 3
Customized:
Offset R 48
Offset G 50
Offset B 50
Gain R 50
Gain G 42
Gain B 51
Image Enhancment: [Adjustable]
Noise Reduction 0
MPEG Noise Reduction 1
Detail Enhancement 70
Advanced:
Gamma Customized:
0 -1 1 0 0 0 0 0 +1 Yes cinema mode has great gamma
RGBCMY:
Hue Saturation Brightness
R 48 52 35
G 50 48 35
B 60 35 50
C 48 50 10
M 42 49 30
Y 55 20 80
Epson Super White: off [Adjustable]
Signal:
Advanced:
HDMI Video Range: Expanded [Adjustable]
The image i get with these settings is almost the same in all modes when i calibrate them.
HDMI Video Range Epson Super White and Brightness are the settings that you must adjust to your setup.
Good luck!
Awesome. Thanks dude. Tomorrow is my day to set all this up. I will let you know how it goes.

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Here is cinema mode.
Brightness 50 [Adjustable]
Contrast 50 [Adjustable]
Color Saturation 50 [Adjustable]
Tint 50
Sharpness 0 [Adjustable]
Color temp 3
Customized:
Offset R 48
Offset G 50
Offset B 50
Gain R 50
Gain G 42
Gain B 51
Image Enhancment: [Adjustable]
Noise Reduction 0
MPEG Noise Reduction 1
Detail Enhancement 70
Advanced:
Gamma Customized:
0 -1 1 0 0 0 0 0 +1 Yes cinema mode has great gamma
RGBCMY:
Hue Saturation Brightness
R 48 52 35
G 50 48 35
B 60 35 50
C 48 50 10
M 42 49 30
Y 55 20 80
Epson Super White: off [Adjustable]
Signal:
Advanced:
HDMI Video Range: Expanded [Adjustable]
The image i get with these settings is almost the same in all modes when i calibrate them.
HDMI Video Range Epson Super White and Brightness are the settings that you must adjust to your setup.
Good luck!
Thanks ! Not sure if anyone know this, but here is a way to enable BT on the 2100/2150. I have tried on my 2150 and it works. I don't take any credit for this, discovered this on another forum

1. Switch on the PJ
2. Press and hold the Menu-Button for 8 sec.
3. Press the ESC-Button twice
Now a new Window with Informations about the Beamer appears. With the
"Arrow-right" and "Arrow-left"-Button you can see several other Information-Windows.
4. Press again the Menu-Button for 8 sec.
5. Press again the ESC-Button twice.

Now a new Windows appears.
On the left side you see 8 lines named "DIP-SW1" to "DIP-SW 8".
To enable BT menu set DIP-SW 7 BIT 2 from 0 to 1.

6. Restart PJ
7. Go to Menu -> Setting -> Bluetooth to enable this option.
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Thanks for the bt info, seems the same tweak of the old 2040, unfortunately it didn't work with audio devices without copy protection, I guess it is the same for the new models.

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This is how far I got. Ran my HDMi cables. Ran power for the new outlets. But that's about it.. Ugh, was really hoping to finish it today.

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Well. Watching ST2 through a Amazon Fire TV 2 and it looks amazing. Unbelievable for the price. The Elunevison Reference was well worth the money. The image is super sharp with zero noise. Far from done but extremely happy.

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I bought Epson 2150 from BB last week. Now i'm planning to buy a 110 inch Silver ticket fixed screen.
i have a question here.... I can have have only a max throw distance of 11 feet 10 inch in my basement room, but Projector Central is recommending 13.2 ( with 1.31 zoom).

If I go with 11' 10" throw distance, I have to increase the zoom to 1.46 Zoom (as per ProjectorCentral).
Will increasing the zoom impact my picture quality? I'm in basement room and its mostly dark, no issues with light.

Or should I buy 100 inch screen or 106 inch?

Please advice

Thank you !!
For my 120inch 12ft or more was needed. I will do more testing tonight for you if you need it.

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For my 120inch 12ft or more was needed. I will do more testing tonight for you if you need it.

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@AdarshP will likely be ok with a “110 screen from 12’, but it may be close. I’m throwing 12.5’ away from a 100” screen and there’s well over a foot or more beyond that when zoomed in (didn’t measure though).

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We watched The Life of Pi tonight as a family, and I thought the picture was excellent and really popped in bright cinema mode with low ambient lighting.

For only $650, this PJ is incredible. Are the colors and black levels acceptable out of the box? For the most part, I believe they are. Of course there’s considerable room for improvement, but at this price point, I’m floored at what kind of image the 2150 projects.

The wife and family are enjoying “my latest home theater obsession” a lot more than expected. In fact, I may be allowed to ditch the family room TV and move to a fixed screen from the 100” Elite pull down; I could go up to 106-110” after gaining an extra foot of depth.
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I’m installing a Silver Ticket High Contrast 106” fixed frame possibly today (delivery pending) to replace the CineWhite 100” Elite pull down; it should offer significant improvements in black levels, contrast, and help a bit more with day time viewing in my family room without having to go to an ALR or black screen. I hope it’ll be a good compromise in screen tech and color for the best results in my room when paired with the Epson 2150.

I’ll try and get a few comparison pics or videos with both screens to show the differences in ambient light and with lights off in a multi purpose room with lots of reflections, light colored walls, ceiling, etc.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01MQGEFXS

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upgraded to a high contrast silver ticket screen, and this is what they gave me: https://imgur.com/a/LewnO

there was no way to remove the pattern (that looks like fish scales), or the two vertical lines on the other side of the screen. sent it back in hopes the next is better. i will say that black levels were noticeably improved though which is nice (.95 gain vs 1.0)--probably would not recommend this unless your room is 100% light controlled as the overall image brightness is reduced obviously.

*edit*
and no, the vertical lines & pattern were extremely visible even with the material stretched & hung--before anyone jumps to that conclusion.


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