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Keep Epson 8350 or upgrade

I use my Epson Home Cinema 8350 ass my main tv, both daytime and nightime. Its pushing 5 years and about 4,000 hours. First bulb died at 1300 hours, current bulb at 2700, and 3 years old.

I run 120" screen fed by a directtv hd dvr and a roku. Some ambient light in the daytime.

Finally upgraded my 10 year old generic screen with an Elite Screens Manual, 120-inch 16:9, Pull Down Projection Manual Projector Screen with 24-inch Drop, M120XWH2-E24, saw minor improvement.

So, just get another bulb or upgrade? I figure this bulb has little life left (I run full power dynamic mode all the time).

Would be willing to spend $2k

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I guess it depends if your main upgrade reason would be to increase lumens or to increase contrast...

I think an Epson 5040ub would be a good upgrade, could also look at the JVC RS-420/440 (slightly more $$$), but keep in mind the JVC will not have a torch mode like the 5040ub.

If you are only trying to increase brightness to fight ambient daytime viewing, then there is the viewsonic pjd7828hdl DLP, but it will not be an improvement in contrast in dark scenes (maybe even a step back)...

Overall, all factors considered, I think the Epson 5040ub is your best match.

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I use my Epson Home Cinema 8350 ass my main tv, both daytime and nightime. Its pushing 5 years and about 4,000 hours. First bulb died at 1300 hours, current bulb at 2700, and 3 years old.

I run 120" screen fed by a directtv hd dvr and a roku. Some ambient light in the daytime.

Finally upgraded my 10 year old generic screen with an Elite Screens Manual, 120-inch 16:9, Pull Down Projection Manual Projector Screen with 24-inch Drop, M120XWH2-E24, saw minor improvement.

So, just get another bulb or upgrade? I figure this bulb has little life left (I run full power dynamic mode all the time).

Would be willing to spend $2k

Michael
Maybe the Epson 3100 would be the perfect upgrade for you. Cheaper genuine lamps and a great step up from your current projector.

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What about the Optoma UHD60 4K Ultra High Definition Home Theater Projector
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What about the Optoma UHD60 4K Ultra High Definition Home Theater Projector
Too dim for his setup...

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I think my best bet is get a new bulb, I presume after 2700 full power hours a new bulb alone would increase existing image/brightness, and wait on better 4k projectors next year?
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I think my best bet is get a new bulb, I presume after 2700 full power hours a new bulb alone would increase existing image/brightness, and wait on better 4k projectors next year?
Sure that would do it, but you'll always be waiting for 'next year' as something better is always coming next year. That said, we are in somewhat of a transitional state given all the 4k and HDR stuff...

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True, but there is so little 4k content, plus I am not sure my hdmi cable is ready 4k compliant (in the ceiling). That said, is the Epson 5040ub that much of an upgrade to warrant the cost?
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I will comment since I have an Epson 8350 sitting in my closet and currently have the Vivitek HK2288 4K UHD DLP. It can be had for 500 bucks less than the UHD60 (check FRYs or Projector People) and has a 310 Watt lamp vs. 200 watt lamp in the 8350, and RGBRGB color wheel. Pretty huge upgrade from the 8350 and puts 8.3 million pixels on the screen vs. the Epson 5040UB 4 million pixels. One downside is placement flexibility, HK2288 has only 15% vertical lens shift and no horizontal lens shift, so it may not work for you. I think the UHD60 shift is about the same.
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I have my Epson mounted on the ceiling, I assume that will work for the Vivitek HK2288 4K UHD DLP
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I have my Epson mounted on the ceiling, I assume that will work for the Vivitek HK2288 4K UHD DLP
You can ceiling mount the HK2288. For 1500 bucks how can you go wrong to try it. Plus 30 day return policy at least for Frys not sure about PP.
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True, but there is so little 4k content, plus I am not sure my hdmi cable is ready 4k compliant (in the ceiling). That said, is the Epson 5040ub that much of an upgrade to warrant the cost?
Netflix has quite a bit of 4K content, not all of it is HDR though. Still looks good. Also 1080p upscaled to 4K looks better than 1080p.
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This is my set-up:

First pic is with window blinds open, second is the darkest I can get during the day.

I watch a lot of football, movies and tv shows using a Directv HDDVR (no 4k, have not upgraded to Genie yet)

Also have an older Roku for netflix, amazon and hulu

Do not play games, rarely play blu rays and have no plans to buy any 4k movies

Would rather come in under $2,000

So given this, what should I do? Also, in searching for replacement 8350 bulbs, looks like onlt 3rd party options are available. Last time I went that route I had bad luck and purchased oem from Epson. So now will mor elikely upgrade.

P.S. We have two 4k tv as well, still very little 4k content.
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This is my set-up:

First pic is with window blinds open, second is the darkest I can get during the day.

I watch a lot of football, movies and tv shows using a Directv HDDVR (no 4k, have not upgraded to Genie yet)

Also have an older Roku for netflix, amazon and hulu

Do not play games, rarely play blu rays and have no plans to buy any 4k movies

Would rather come in under $2,000

So given this, what should I do? Also, in searching for replacement 8350 bulbs, looks like onlt 3rd party options are available. Last time I went that route I had bad luck and purchased oem from Epson. So now will mor elikely upgrade.

P.S. We have two 4k tv as well, still very little 4k content.
Definitely the JVC RS-400 as long as you can take the bulb costs.
(EDIT - They just sold out, you might try 420 or 440, but might be over your budget slightly)

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They are having a fire sale, so hurry, the price is insane for a JVC, it's significantly UNDER your budget. I have owned over 15 projectors, and the only one I ever kept was a JVC (and a Benq for 3D), I sold all the rest or returned them all, including several Epsons

The contrast is killer, and will really improve those movies. It also has fully motorized everything (lens, focus, and zoom). It's jam-packed with features, and if you do decide to use 4k later, well it supports that too.

One of the best features though is its one of the brightest 'best-mode' projectors ever offered, and it has a FIXED adjustable aperture, so you can dial in the brightness EXACTLY as you require.

It should be far sharper, have much higher contrast, and the best mode will smoke the best mode of the Epson 8350. It doesn't have a torch mode like some Epsons, but the calibrated modes are so bright it doesn't really need it.

Also has the best NON-DLP 3D capabilities if you care.

Projectors at this level used to cost $3000 - $5000+...

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Doh!

Just read they are NOW sold out of JVC RS-400's...
They may have some RS-420's or RS-440's left though...

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If you are not interested in 4K movies or games and basically use it as a TV day and night then why not get the cheapest 1080p torch cannon you can find with cheap bulb replacement. Or just get the biggest cheapest big screen tv you can find.
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"Or just get the biggest cheapest big screen tv you can find." My built-in limits me to 65" (which I actually have behind the projector), just too small.

The epson is fine for me, and I suspect a new bulb will brighten it up (at 3k hours)
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