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Bandyka 04-04-2018 10:23 AM

JVC LX-UH1 New 4K projector
 
3840 x 2160 4K Ultra HD resolution, 2000 lumens of brightness, HDR10 and HLG support, a pair of HDMI inputs (one of which features full speed/full spec HDCP2.2 compliance) and a dynamic contrast ratio claimed to be 100,000:1 are.


Interesting indeed any more info on this?

Tom Bley 04-04-2018 10:30 AM

JVC has a DLP projector

2000 Lumens High Brightness (RGBRGB 6-segment)
• Newly developed 0.47” TRP DMD technology
provides 4K (3840x2160) resolution
• Wide lens shift range (V +/- 60%, H +/- 23%)
• HDR compatibility (HDR10 & Hybrid Log-Gamma)
• Three selectable HDR gamma curves (Low, Mid, High)
• 18Gbps HDMI/HDCP 2.2 Compatible Input (HDMI-1 only)
• Electronic Keystone +/- 30% (Vertical only)
• Compact design: 13.1”L x 13.1”W x 5.3”H, 10.2 lbs.
• Control: RS-232C / 12V Screen Trigger Output
• 100% Rec. 709 color space (BT.2020 compatible)
• Automatic Aperture available with HDR10 content
• Lens: 1.6x Wide Zoom (1.36:1 - 2.18:1)
• 1 Year Parts and Labor Warranty

Newly developed TRP DMD Device
DMD (digital micromirror device) is a digitally controlled
micro-opto-electromechanical system (MOEMS) spatial
light modulator (SLM). When coupled to an appropriate
optical system, the DMD displays a very crisp, high
resolution image or video.

18Gbps HDMI Input with HDCP2.2
JVC incorporates the latest HDMI/HDCP2.2 standard
allowing HDCP2.2 copy protected devices to be
connected via the HDMI-1 input.

HDR10 & Hybrid Log-Gamma
The LX-UH1 supports 100% of Rec. 709 color space
(BT. 2020 compatible) and displays HDR content with
high contrast and bright vivid images.
Hybrid Log-Gamma is an additional HDR Gamma mode
that is used for live broadcast or streaming events.

Mike Garrett 04-04-2018 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Bley (Post 55974768)
JVC has a DLP projector

2000 Lumens High Brightness (RGBRGB 6-segment)
• Newly developed 0.47” TRP DMD technology
provides 4K (3840x2160) resolution
• Wide lens shift range (V +/- 60%, H +/- 23%)
• HDR compatibility (HDR10 & Hybrid Log-Gamma)
• Three selectable HDR gamma curves (Low, Mid, High)
• 18Gbps HDMI/HDCP 2.2 Compatible Input (HDMI-1 only)
• Electronic Keystone +/- 30% (Vertical only)
• Compact design: 13.1”L x 13.1”W x 5.3”H, 10.2 lbs.
• Control: RS-232C / 12V Screen Trigger Output
• 100% Rec. 709 color space (BT.2020 compatible)
• Automatic Aperture available with HDR10 content
• Lens: 1.6x Wide Zoom (1.36:1 - 2.18:1)
• 1 Year Parts and Labor Warranty

Newly developed TRP DMD Device
DMD (digital micromirror device) is a digitally controlled
micro-opto-electromechanical system (MOEMS) spatial
light modulator (SLM). When coupled to an appropriate
optical system, the DMD displays a very crisp, high
resolution image or video.

18Gbps HDMI Input with HDCP2.2
JVC incorporates the latest HDMI/HDCP2.2 standard
allowing HDCP2.2 copy protected devices to be
connected via the HDMI-1 input.

HDR10 & Hybrid Log-Gamma
The LX-UH1 supports 100% of Rec. 709 color space
(BT. 2020 compatible) and displays HDR content with
high contrast and bright vivid images.
Hybrid Log-Gamma is an additional HDR Gamma mode
that is used for live broadcast or streaming events.

I wonder where that info came from. :)

Mike Garrett 04-04-2018 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bandyka (Post 55974720)
3840 x 2160 4K Ultra HD resolution, 2000 lumens of brightness, HDR10 and HLG support, a pair of HDMI inputs (one of which features full speed/full spec HDCP2.2 compliance) and a dynamic contrast ratio claimed to be 100,000:1 are.


Interesting indeed any more info on this?

As of right now, I don't know that I would count on the dynamic iris.

Tom Bley 04-04-2018 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Garrett (Post 55975060)
As of right now, I don't know that I would count on the dynamic iris.

Plus, this is faux k. I wonder if the 2000 lumens is close to calibrated output. JVC doesn't usually over inflate the numbers like other mfg's.

RoNNy379CH 04-04-2018 11:23 AM

High @ all,

Great news, with a newer 0.47 Chip?

KLICK

It should costs around 2500 GBP. If they have a glas lens with a real working mechanical iris diming (not electronically Gamma algorithms) it can be a hot adversary to Optomas mid price segment.




http://i63.tinypic.com/rr08le.jpg


BR, Ron

Bandyka 04-04-2018 11:35 AM

I wonder if that 100K:1 contrast is the actual real output, JVC are pretty good with promised figures. Also how does that lens compare to the D-ILA range?

Bandyka 04-04-2018 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Garrett (Post 55975060)
As of right now, I don't know that I would count on the dynamic iris.

Yeah will be interesting to find out more on actual performance.

MJ1 04-04-2018 11:40 AM

I can see JVC wanting a slice of low cost DLP market as many folks are wanting cheaper 4k projectors. But why is it priced at £2500 which is almost $3500 USD, when similar projectors using .47" DLP chip are selling around $1500 usd.

Hawkmarket 04-04-2018 11:42 AM

Will this be 3D capable?

RoNNy379CH 04-04-2018 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MJ1 (Post 55975314)
I can see JVC wanting a slice of low cost DLP market as many folks are wanting cheaper 4k projectors. But why is it priced at £2500 which is almost $3500 USD, when similar projectors using .47" DLP chip are selling around $1500 usd.

I think they spoke from a newly designed 0.47MD chip. Maybe the 2nd gen?

Also if JVC provide a top notch 4k capable glass lens with a mechanical iris system I found the price is more as fair.

Mike Garrett 04-04-2018 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hawkmarket (Post 55975328)
Will this be 3D capable?

No.

urbeenjammin1969 04-04-2018 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MJ1 (Post 55975314)
I can see JVC wanting a slice of low cost DLP market as many folks are wanting cheaper 4k projectors. But why is it priced at £2500 which is almost $3500 USD, when similar projectors using .47" DLP chip are selling around $1500 usd.

You simply can't convert the European price to U.S. dollars.Most often than not, the numbers stay the same and even less when it hits the U.S. meaning the number "2500" will also be the same here.An example would be the Viewsonic PX727 that just came out.Here it is sold around 1300 while in Europe, it actually sells closer to 1900 euros. I have purchased several projectors from Amazon.co.uk and this has been the history of projectors which is good news for us in the states.

Mike Garrett 04-04-2018 12:32 PM

I would guess around $2,500 MSRP, here in the US. :)

Craig Peer 04-04-2018 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bandyka (Post 55974720)
3840 x 2160 4K Ultra HD resolution, 2000 lumens of brightness, HDR10 and HLG support, a pair of HDMI inputs (one of which features full speed/full spec HDCP2.2 compliance) and a dynamic contrast ratio claimed to be 100,000:1 are.


Interesting indeed any more info on this?

I played with one last week ( pre - production unit ). A lot more lens shift than the Optoma UHD60 I had - which is real nice. Quiet, bright, 4K HDR looked good ( watched some of " Rocky Mountain Express and Pacific Rim on 4K Blu-ray ). Looking forward to seeing an actual finished production unit.

Dominic Chan 04-04-2018 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Craig Peer (Post 55977112)
I played with one last week ( pre - production unit ). A lot more lens shift than the Optoma UHD60 I had - which is real nice. Quiet, bright, 4K HDR looked good ( watched some of " Rocky Mountain Express and Pacific Rim on 4K Blu-ray ). Looking forward to seeing an actual finished production unit.

Does it have a wide zoom range?

Craig Peer 04-04-2018 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dominic Chan (Post 55977324)
Does it have a wide zoom range?

Specs -

https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...38&oe=5B33DB8E

https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...2c&oe=5B2D079E

Aztar35 04-04-2018 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bandyka (Post 55974720)
3840 x 2160 4K Ultra HD resolution, 2000 lumens of brightness, HDR10 and HLG support, a pair of HDMI inputs (one of which features full speed/full spec HDCP2.2 compliance) and a dynamic contrast ratio claimed to be 100,000:1 are.


Interesting indeed any more info on this?

This is the direction JVC is taking? What's next...Texas Instruments coming out with an Lcos panel?

Well...JVC has ha a DLP in the past. Anyway, on the bright side, for those who've always wanted single-chip 4k shift DLPs with very good blacks, could this be it?

Dominic Chan 04-04-2018 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Craig Peer (Post 55977410)
Specs -

Thanks. 1.6x is enough to cover wide-screen zoom, with manual adjustments.
They don’t publish the native contrast ratio?

Aztar35 04-04-2018 05:06 PM

I don't know...I would like to have some questions answered: How much shifting is done using this .47 DMD? Does that mean more potential for flicker? Compared to the .95 chips, does the .47 chip mean it would be more difficult to gain good native contrast?

Craig Peer 04-04-2018 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aztar35 (Post 55977588)
I don't know...I would like to have some questions answered: How much shifting is done using this .47 DMD? Does that mean more potential for flicker? Compared to the .95 chips, does the .47 chip mean it would be more difficult to gain good native contrast?

Still waiting to see a full production unit, but it's going to have " DLP native contrast ". I didn't see any flicker, and it did display a single pixel 4K resolution pattern ( DV test pattern ) much better than the Optoma I had.

urbeenjammin1969 04-04-2018 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Craig Peer (Post 55977112)
I played with one last week ( pre - production unit ). A lot more lens shift than the Optoma UHD60 I had - which is real nice. Quiet, bright, 4K HDR looked good ( watched some of " Rocky Mountain Express and Pacific Rim on 4K Blu-ray ). Looking forward to seeing an actual finished production unit.

Any comparisons or comments you can make regarding video quality compared to the UHD60?
https://www.theverge.com/circuitbrea...e-release-date

Aztar35 04-04-2018 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Craig Peer (Post 55977658)
Still waiting to see a full production unit, but it's going to have " DLP native contrast ". I didn't see any flicker, and it did display a single pixel 4K resolution pattern ( DV test pattern ) much better than the Optoma I had.

I see. Thanks, Craig. ...okay, so DLP native contrast like the Runco LS-5 and better yet the Sim2 Lumis or DLP native contrast like the XPR chips of late? ...or, somewhere in between maybe?

Craig Peer 04-04-2018 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aztar35 (Post 55977772)
I see. Thanks, Craig. ...okay, so DLP native contrast like the Runco LS-5 and better yet the Sim2 Lumis or DLP native contrast like the XPR chips of late? ...or, somewhere in between maybe?

I think we will need to wait for the finished production units to find out.

Mike Garrett 04-04-2018 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aztar35 (Post 55977772)
I see. Thanks, Craig. ...okay, so DLP native contrast like the Runco LS-5 and better yet the Sim2 Lumis or DLP native contrast like the XPR chips of late? ...or, somewhere in between maybe?

Without dynamic iris, more like XPR.

LumensLover 04-04-2018 07:52 PM

Please no more 50 Shades of Grey black level dlp projectors.

zombie10k 04-04-2018 07:56 PM

the 0.47 XPR projectors so far have been producing business class DLP contrast, I don't think any have cracked 1000:1 yet.

avforum.com just measured the BQ HT2550 @ ~770:1

LumensLover 04-04-2018 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zombie10k (Post 55978444)
the 0.47 XPR projectors so far have been producing business class DLP contrast, I don't think any have cracked 1000:1 yet.

avforum.com just measured the BQ HT2550 @ ~770:1

That is downright terrible.

Craig Peer 04-04-2018 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by urbeenjammin1969 (Post 55977718)
Any comparisons or comments you can make regarding video quality compared to the UHD60?
https://www.theverge.com/circuitbrea...e-release-date

It looked very similar, but has way more installation flexibility.

blake18 04-04-2018 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zombie10k (Post 55978444)
the 0.47 XPR projectors so far have been producing business class DLP contrast, I don't think any have cracked 1000:1 yet.

avforum.com just measured the BQ HT2550 @ ~770:1

This is why I refuse to go DLP for home theater. 3LCD and LcoS, all the way.


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