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LG HU80KA 4K/UHD Laser Smart Projector

Hey all, nobody seems to want to move the thread to this forum where it belongs. This looks like a potentially great option for those looking for laser and the flexibility of regular or short throw.

MSRP is $2999, street price TBD.
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Anybody know when the first reviews will come out?
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what a funny looking, easy tripping, non kid friendly projector lol

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huh, that looks like ultra short throw, floor based design, right? and it's got a handle for moving it? not sure about the design at all,
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huh, that looks like ultra short throw, floor based design, right? and it's got a handle for moving it? not sure about the design at all,
You can also mount it normally, it looks like a long rectangle in that position.
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Does the place you posted(before being mod removed) have them for sale? I have so many questions about this unit, that I'll have to see it in action somewhere before I'd purchase this. Why hasn't LG come up with a standing base for this projector? Obviously, it can be tipped over by a pet or child. And, it could injure a small child. Not a good plan to not have a base of some kind. What, is LG going to let a 3rd party develop a base for this thing? Also, how many times can it tip over before it damages the projector?
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Here is a link to the CES review:
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huh, that looks like ultra short throw, floor based design, right? and it's got a handle for moving it? not sure about the design at all,
Sorry to burst your bubble, not even a short throw, just a normal throw at 1.3 throw ratio.
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The user manual is here. Unlike previous posts of mine (when the HU80KA was in the 3000+ forum), this manual includes the HU80KA and the WebOS parts of the manual:

http://www.projectorcentral.com/pdf/...nual_10324.pdf

In reading through this manual, there is still no indication if the chip is 0.47 or 0.66 inches.


However, the manual for the HU80KSW says that it is a 0.47 chip (DLP470NE)

https://www.heimkinoraum.de/upload/f...to-HU80KSW.pdf

I'm not sure if the HU80KS is the same or different than the HU80KA. We know that the "W" suffix is for the white variant. The HU80KA appears to be the American version while the HU80KS appears to be the European version.

I was really hoping for a 0.66 chip in this unit. One of the nice things that I like about the HU80KA is that the user can do an update. There are many faux-K DLP projectors that have to be shipped back to do updates (Optoma, Vivitek, Acer).



Recent info may list the HU80KA as MD05909676 and also labeled as the first CineBeam projector in LG's newly branded lineup.

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Supports 120hz at 1080p:

1920 x 1080p 134.86 119.88
1920 x 1080p 135 120

I wonder what the input lag is, probably 80ms since it has FI and most that do have this level of lag.

1080p 120hz means you can do 3D from a PC using IR-based 120hz 3D shutter glasses (e.g. NVidia) instead of DLP Link.

Let's be honest, the native contrast probably sucks due to the 0.47 inch chip, but maybe dynamic laser dimming will save it somewhat.

I look forward to seeing reviews. Also agree that placing it on the floor instead of the ceiling is a disaster waiting to happen. No lens shift means it will need careful consideration for ceiling mount placement and certainly high enough ceilings to not bump your head on it.
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I found two reviews but they are in german language.
According those videos prices will be HU80KSW (Presto) (white with apps) 2699€ and HU80KG (black with no apps) 2499€.
Of course they are europian models.

First impression for the new LG HU80KG KSW Laser projector:

LG Presto Projector HU80KSW & HU80KG | Preview :
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Projector "reviews" in brightly lit rooms make me shake my head. Nope. Not interested in what they have to say. At all.
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Projector "reviews" in brightly lit rooms make me shake my head. Nope. Not interested in what they have to say. At all.
This is being sold as a "living room" projector. Note in the 1st review, the screen is in front of series of fake wall sections and the light is behind it. This makes the room light and the screen reasonably good. It's the audience they are looking for. Plus having the image go from wall to ceiling--that's bedroom talk....
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That's a good point, but the very concept of a 2500 lumen "living room" projector is kind of silly to me, but anyway, to each their own.

It's also very convenient that black levels don't matter when the image is totally greyed out due to ambient light, anyway. I guess that's one way to compete, take away any possible benefit to having better blacks by flooding the room with light. It's brilliant in a Persian cat-petting, Bond-villain sense.
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Hi All, a complete NOVICE here. Have recently got on to your forums as have always wanted a semi cinema in my room. I'm a film buff big time and can stand toe to toe with anyone in that, but never had a projector and out of my dept with you experts. Have been saving for a while and awaiting this as it ticks all boxes with buld/laser time for me plus multi media. I've read a million reviews on loads of projectors and past LG fails. The think I want to ask you all if I may is, for a first projector that would replace my laptop an insure future 4k upgrade do you think it would be a good idea? I am a chef who comes home after 14 hrs and just wants to either watch a film or Netflix and stream content, is a guy like me really going to notice all the detail you guys would with coloremietry, contrast etc? Sorry for I breaking the flow of it all but sure I could be you people in 2 years! I have been on a massive amount of online forums from French to English to USA and just to be put in the right direction? I would thank you all in advance for any pm or comments on were to go, I sincerely enjoy your treads keep up the good work.
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Here is another one in German:


When they get to 1:01 minutes, they show the DLP shifting graphic. However, they seem to be showing a 2X shift although I think that the HU80K* is a 4X shifter (see my previous post).

This is a European unit since it has a European plug, but "Zoom" and "Focus" printed on the side of the white unit are in English (instead of Zoomen and Fokus).

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Edit: From 3DBob are the directions to turn on the YouTube auto-translator: Click to play the video, then click the cc (closed caption) icon (will then have a red underline). Then click on the gear icon at the bottom right. Then click on subtitles/cc, then click on Auto Translate. Then pick your language. You'll simply have to go back to the beginning of the video. The translator doesn't catch it all, though, but you'll get most of it.

The translation isn't great, but it seems to work sufficiently.

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Anyone speak German that can translate?
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Does the place you posted(before being mod removed) have them for sale? I have so many questions about this unit, that I'll have to see it in action somewhere before I'd purchase this. Why hasn't LG come up with a standing base for this projector? Obviously, it can be tipped over by a pet or child. And, it could injure a small child. Not a good plan to not have a base of some kind. What, is LG going to let a 3rd party develop a base for this thing? Also, how many times can it tip over before it damages the projector?
I'd be tempted to get a small coffee table and cut a rectangular hole in the centre of it, that matches the dimensions of the projector, and then insert the PJ into it, to prevent it from being knocked over. A TV stand on castors would also do nicely.

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Anyone speak German that can translate?
Sure. Click to play the video, then click the cc (closed caption) icon (will then have a red underline). Then click on the gear icon at the bottom right. Then click on subtitles/cc, then click on Auto Translate. Then pick your language. You'll simply have to go back to the beginning of the video. The translator doesn't catch it all, though, but you'll get most of it.
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Sure. Click to play the video, then click the cc (closed caption) icon (will then have a red underline). Then click on the gear icon at the bottom right. Then click on subtitles/cc, then click on Auto Translate. Then pick your language. You'll simply have to go back to the beginning of the video. The translator doesn't catch it all, though, but you'll get most of it.


Thanks for the tip
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Hi All, a complete NOVICE here. Have recently got on to your forums as have always wanted a semi cinema in my room. I'm a film buff big time and can stand toe to toe with anyone in that, but never had a projector and out of my dept with you experts. Have been saving for a while and awaiting this as it ticks all boxes with buld/laser time for me plus multi media. I've read a million reviews on loads of projectors and past LG fails. The think I want to ask you all if I may is, for a first projector that would replace my laptop an insure future 4k upgrade do you think it would be a good idea? I am a chef who comes home after 14 hrs and just wants to either watch a film or Netflix and stream content, is a guy like me really going to notice all the detail you guys would with coloremietry, contrast etc? Sorry for I breaking the flow of it all but sure I could be you people in 2 years! I have been on a massive amount of online forums from French to English to USA and just to be put in the right direction? I would thank you all in advance for any pm or comments on were to go, I sincerely enjoy your treads keep up the good work.
Many people (including me) use projectors in living room settings, as TV replacements, with some ambient lighting and my PJs need lots of colour lumens to give me the large image that I want. Of course the resulting image is a compromise but one that is OK for streaming content and/or TV broadcasts. In our Condo LR, with lots of ambient light, we use a ceiling mounted Epson HC1040 to give a ~140in image and you're correct that this laser PJ sounds like a good alternative. At night, when watching a movie, I can turn off most of the lights and switch to cinema mode and still get an acceptable image.
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Does the place you posted(before being mod removed) have them for sale? I have so many questions about this unit, that I'll have to see it in action somewhere before I'd purchase this. Why hasn't LG come up with a standing base for this projector? Obviously, it can be tipped over by a pet or child. And, it could injure a small child. Not a good plan to not have a base of some kind. What, is LG going to let a 3rd party develop a base for this thing? Also, how many times can it tip over before it damages the projector?
I'd be tempted to get a small coffee table and cut a rectangular hole in the centre of it, that matches the dimensions of the projector, and then insert the PJ into it, to prevent it from being knocked over. A TV stand on castors would also do nicely.
Hmm, yeah. Find a short square table, or cut the legs down. Then drill a smallish hole and cut a marked insert hole that fits the projector with a jigsaw. That would work.

Has anyone ordered one of these yet, or know a store that has one?
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another review of 36min in german again, but auto sub and translate
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With these .47 chips, the blacks just aren't able to go to deep....we'll see what JVC has done in a couple of weeks.
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Which JVC projector are you talking about?
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With these .47 chips, the blacks just aren't able to go to deep....we'll see what JVC has done in a couple of weeks.
We don't know for sure at this time what the chip is.

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We don't know for sure at this time what the chip is.
See Post # 9 . The manual for the HU80KSW says that it is using the 0.47 chip. So far, the USA manuals for the HU80KA have been specifically missing the chip info.

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I pre-ordered but now that it’s most likely going to have the .47 chip should I cancel? Wait for anything else?
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I pre-ordered but now that it’s most likely going to have the .47 chip should I cancel? Wait for anything else?
Projector Central should have received their eval unit last week and should have a review shortly.

Based on other threads, a 0.66 chip is noticeably better than a 0.47 chip. But you have decide if your viewing distance is close enough to see the difference.

See 3DBob's post # 438 on this thread:
https://www.avsforum.com/forum/68-dig...l#post55936722

For me, I'm deciding between the LG HU80KA, the Acer VL7860, and the Optoma UHZ65. Of the 3, I want the HU80KA and really want it to have 0.66 chips. I'll have to wait for someone to definitely say 0.66, but so far the HU80KS (European) manual says 0.47. After that, I have to decide if my 124" screen at 15 feet is enough to see the added detail or not.

The graph in post # 5772 on this thread say "maybe":
https://www.avsforum.com/forum/24-dig...l#post56106768



I'm in the market for a new projector anyway since my Panasonic 8000 is misbehaving and I'm eager to return to DLP technology and replace bulbs with a laser.

Hope this helps...

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Projector Central should have received their eval unit last week and should have a review shortly.

Based on other threads, a 0.66 chip is noticeably better than a 0.47 chip. But you have decide if your viewing distance is close enough to see the difference.

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If it's 0.47, it's competitor will be Benq and JVC which is less expensive and lighter than HU80KA. Hope it's 0.66 too, otherwise will have to turn around and look for something else.

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