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Epson 5050\6050 Rumors?

Just seeing if there's any news out there? Timeline on release dates? I"m sure everyone is hoping they get the 18gbp port issue corrected...
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I'm patiently waiting for this as well. If Epson can come up with a better design, increase native contrast to around 8000 to 1,along with brightness around 1800 lumens in natural mode under eco or medium lamp. I will definitely be willing to make another purchase.
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Very excited to see the new models, I can't imagine they won't announce them this year.
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Very excited to see the new models, I can't imagine they won't announce them this year.
Exactly Blake! They also don't want to be left behind...if they get this right? The sky is the limit! The 5040 is already a awesome PJ!
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The 5040 is already a awesome PJ!
When it works.
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I would personally like to see one good manufacturer concentrate on core attributes of image quality and give maximum value for that. Trying to squeeze 3D, e shift, motorized zoom, etc into a midrange price point results in cheap parts being used and low durability.

I would like to see one high image quality projector without extra bells and whistles for $2,500. Something where image quality is the number one priority rather than cramming many substandard parts and addons into a flawed design just to hit a price point.
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18Gbps support and better 3D (no crosstalk or ghosting) = I'll buy one in a heartbeat.
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Very excited to see the new models, I can't imagine they won't announce them this year.
Exactly Blake! They also don't want to be left behind...if they get this right? The sky is the limit! The 5040 is already a awesome PJ!
Yep! If they increase durability and fix that 10Gbps issue, it's a sure fire hit. 🙂

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18Gbps support and better 3D (no crosstalk or ghosting) = I'll buy one in a heartbeat.

If it had 18Gbps I'd already own it. You just know the next one is going to be 13 or if it's 18 no 3D. However, this is the projector I have my eye on this year so I'm hoping they come out again in June with an announcement. I believe it was June of 16 that they announced the 6040.
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Why would 18 negate 3D MVC? BenQ HT2550/TK800 & Optoma UHD51A support it via HDMI 2.2. Just requires you toggle between 3D & 4K in menu.

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Has anyone heard anything else???

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The European version of the 5050, the EH-TW9400, is releasing in November over in Europe, so the 5050/6050 will most likely be about the same time, although it may possibly be as far out as a few months later, since it still hasn't been officially announced yet like the TW9700 was at the end of August.
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I found a review of the new 5050 (9400).

http://www.avmagazine.it/articoli/st...400_index.html

Price is stated at 2,790 euros in that review, or $3,261 USD.

That's a $761 jump in price over the current selling price of the 5040 ($2500). Ouch



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First Look Epson EH-TW9400

Emidio Frattaroli - 13 September 2018

"First contact in Berlin with the new Epson EH-TW9400 projector that brings with it an 18 Gbps HDMI input, HLG curve, compatibility with CalMAN software, 8-point white calibration and many other interesting and enjoyable news"



After the wonders presented by Sony and JVC about home video projection at 4K native resolution, this year in Berlin I moved to the Epson booth with a little less enthusiasm than usual, already knowing that the novelty presented would be only one " small "evolution of the excellent EH-TW9300, with the addition of the HLG gamma curve and an HDMI input with 18 Gbps band , so as to make it compatible with 4K 60p 10-bit signals per component. What I finally met instead was very different and surprised me positively.



Before starting, I take the opportunity to demonstrate a bit of disappointment due to the lack of an evolution of the short throw projector and EH-LS100 laser / phosphor system which, with quality LCD panels and compatibility with 4K signals and HLG (even without and -shift) could become a block-buster ... In any case the projectors presented are actually 3. The first is the new EH-TW7400 that I will not take into account because it has no 18 Gbps input and incompatible with HLG video signals.



Then there's the new EH-TW9400 (black only), this one with an 18 Gbps input and HLG compatible, supported by the "wireless" EH-TW9400W (white only) version, but it is not able to transmit 18 Gbps signals with the wireless module, so - as far as I'm concerned - to be avoided for those who want a future-proof 4K product. The back panel does not change almost for nothing. Of the two HDMI inputs only one accepts signals at 18 Gbps with HDCP 2.2.



The news, however, are not limited only to the HDMI input and HLG compatibility but are revealed above all in the user menu. First of all, in the calibration menu for HDR10 and HLG, a very fluid and well-modifiable dynamic compression control (Tone Mapping) appears, adding to the excellent brightness, contrast and gamma controls that have made the Epson series TW for calibration also in HDR. The other good news is the 8-point gray scale calibration which makes the calibration of the white balance of the new TW9400 even easier and more interesting.



In the excellent calibration menu are still available other interesting tools, already present in the model EH-TW9300 that is the control of the uniformity of white balance on 8 zones and 8 points, the white balance on high lights and low lights (which adds up to the new one on 8 points) and the control of the range on 9 points. I also remember that the projector has two diaphragms (one manual and the other automatic), a color filter that can be activated to cover the DCI-P3 color space, a frame interpolation algorithm (unfortunately only with full HD sources) and a lamp high pressure that is able to generate a maximum of 2,600 lumens and with a very low cost.

Pending the publication of the official page with all the features, I suggest you take a look at the review of the "old" EH-TW9300 published at this address .



The Epson room, always very well built and darkened, provided the vision of both the model EH-TW7400 (completely ignored), and the model EH-TW9400 , the latter in wired and not wireless. The screen is a Stewart FilmScreen StudioTek 130 "high contrast", with a base of gain 1.3 and unfortunately a little bit of "sparkling": the characteristic "sbrilluccichio" which unfortunately features some surfaces with high contrast and gain and which ends up limiting a little 'resolution. Instead, as a source, I saw an Oppo. The only content that I could observe is the excellent UHD Blu-ray 4K of "Black Panther" .



Inside the Epson room, I shared some moments of the vision with the usual "selection" of Italian operators, with whom I could also exchange some considerations on performance and value for money, which I will mention in closing. The perceived luminance, despite the 6.5 square meters of surface of the StudioTek 130, was more than enough to make HDR projection credible even if the color filter for DCI-P3 color space coverage had not been activated. Epson declares for this new TW9400 100 lumens more than the 2,500 lumens of TW9300, values ​​that must be reduced to almost under half under optimal vision conditions.



Together with the discreet luminous flux and excellent detail - which put me in a good mood - I appreciated the same excellent quality of the colors that Epson has accustomed me to, all combined with a wealth of nuances that totally bans any type of sunburn. The only limit if we want is a contrast ratio that is "eyesight" at the same level of a TW9300, then about half of the "entry level" models of Sony (VPL-VW270ES) and JVC (DLA-N5) that they cost twice as much.



And this is the last good news of the new Epson EH-TW9400: the suggested retail price drops by 500 euros compared to TW9300 and is positioned at 2,790 euros including VAT. Not bad for a generous projector, compatible with HDMI 18Gbps signals, with HLG and with motorized optics with memories. This year then comes also the compatibility with CalMAN calibration software, a topic that we will face in a deepening as soon as we receive a sample for the first tests, expected for the first week of November.

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Note however that the reviewer states that the new unit is 500 euros cheaper than the outgoing model. The Euro or UK pound price isn't a reliable guide to the USD price. In fact it is often simpler to assume that no conversion is necessary, same number for each market...
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Note however that the reviewer states that the new unit is 500 euros cheaper than the outgoing model. The Euro or UK pound price isn't a reliable guide to the USD price. In fact it is often simpler to assume that no conversion is necessary, same number for each market...
Hopefully you're right about the conversion/price...

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It'll surely be at least 3k. Just hoping this thing will come out and make the 5040 drop a few more hundred bucks from the $2200 sales they have every few weeks.
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They couldnt even make both hdmi 18gbs?
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I hope this gets announced soon in the US. I wish I could import the black one
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I hope this gets announced soon in the US. I wish I could import the black one
I heard it's coming to the US in December.

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When do these usually get announced? A home show or something?

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When do these usually get announced? A home show or something?
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Epson TW9400 available for pre-order on a few German sites now.

Be sure to use google translate.

https://heimkino-partner.de/produkte...emium-edition/


https://www.beamer-discount.de/beame...0-p-54599.html


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2799EUR or $3183 USD

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Those prices includes VAT. Hopefully it's $2500 when it comes to the USA.

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Those prices includes VAT. Hopefully it's $2500 when it comes to the USA.
Ah, I forgot about VAT.

VAT @ 20% (less ~559EUR)
= 2239EUR

So the USD price would be ~ $2544
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They sure are taking their sweet time announcing this here in the States
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I just finished building our dream house and have everything set up and waiting to buy the projector to finish off our entertainment area in the basement. I am wondering if we have any best guess on when this will be available in the states for actual purchase (with the understanding that the official announcement hasn't even happened). I am trying to weigh my options of waiting to either get the 5050, or hope for a big price reduction in stores offloading the 5040 with the new model being available.

If this may take upwards of another year, I would consider buying the 5040 now and just rolling with that. Thanks!
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European site are now listing the TW-9400 to be available for sale in December.

US release is going to be January at the earliest now I bet....

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My HT should be ready by the end of Nov. I really wanted to have it dialed in with projector before Christmas.


I can't wait til Jan.


Someone call Epson and tell them I need them to cut the crap and hurry the heck up. My daughter wants to have her friends over on Christmas break for a movie day.
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There's other options like jvc or sonys
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I was looking at an Epson until Mike Garrett here hooked me up with a B stock JVC RS420 for a hell of a lot less than the current Epson 5040

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