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Optoma LH200 HLD LED Projector (incl. calibration)

Today my new travel unit arrived me.

Optoma LH200 with 2000lms HLD LED system. Its a small business projector.

This tiny unit have 2x4Watt Speakers, a internal battery pack with 2.5hrs running time total.

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pros:

- The HLD LED (*green light was generate via blue/phosphor LED module) are very color accurate, in gaming mode I got 89% DCI-P3 Colorspace too. (after calibration)

- no color wheel, no phosphor wheel

- The lens is the best pico lens I ever seen - razor sharp due all four edges, also in the center.
- This lens have the same performance as my older HD90+ back up unit.

- Colors can calibrate via RGB gain & RGB bias sliders

- no inhomogen color bandings

- black image without any discoloration or light path leakages as many other pico units have

- Battery pack inside with 2.5hrs running time

- 24fps support

- no image reprocessing, no software filtering, pure pixel for pixel


cons:

- a complete cms for secondary colors is not include

- fan is noisy


Today I calibrate the cinema mode as a first run.

my settings are:

Display Mode: Cinema
Brightness: 50
Contrast: 50
Saturation: 52
Sharpness: 0
Color Temp: Standard
Gamma: Standard (2.2)
Hue: 1
Wall Color: White
RGB Gain: 50/32/36
RGB Bias: 50/50/51

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Blade Runner 2049 on 189"

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Input lag? Calibrated lumens?
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The specifications say "Brightness (LED) 2,000 lumens" so those are likely not actual measurable lumens but perceived LED lumens due to the Helmholtz–Kohlrausch effect. For anyone not familiar with this effect projectorcentral.com explains it in a test review that shows a high correlation:

projectorcentral.com/Meter-and-Perceived-Brightness-Test.htm
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Thanks Dave,

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on the 3th chart from my first post you can see after calibration 76.99% from uncalibrated 100% are left. This unit is really bright, also calibrated. Also the lens is perfect.

Input lag is very low, but i cant find any numbers in the manual.

If optoma or a another brand are able to bulid a DLP home cinema professional unit with these HLD LED driver this could be a really big improvement.

This business unit reach in game mode near 90% of DCI-P3 colorspace levels. The color are very solid and extremely clear, intensely and have no color shifts.

I think HLD LED can be a competitor to the laser phosphor setup. Also the HLD LED system need no phosphor wheel.
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Thanks for sharing.

I would love to see native contrast figures! I hope more HLD options come out in the future.

Especially higher-contrast 1080p DC3 projectors that actually supported 4K HDR10 input over HDMI 2.0a and 1080p native 120hz with HDR10 and P3 gamut support.

I wonder, if the projector only supports SDR over HDMI 1.4, can one pass P3 gamut? Because if you calibrate to rec 709 you should get 100% of rec 709, not 89% of P3. Unless I'm misunderstanding something here.

Any time your light source doesn't match the gamut you are trying to display, (in either direction, greater or smaller), and you calibrate towards that gamut, you are losing bits and dynamic range, and thus lumens too, of course.

Does the EDID of this business class projector actually support SDR + rec 2020? It doesn't mention it in the manual, so I doubt it. Might not matter though, if you use custom tone mapping from HDR sources from your PC.

Can you do me a favour and try 1080p at 120hz? Adding it via a custom resolution / refresh rate. Or 720p at 120hz? From a PC, of course.
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Thanks for the info. Im really interested in these HLD LED projectors. The colors look amazing on them. Hitachi has a 3500 lumen version going for around $2k now. And HDfury has HDR to SDR tone mapping now. Ita all tempting, I think I'm gonna wait till CES 2019 to see how things shake out.
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It's called the LH150 in North America.
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It's called the LH150 in North America.
Here in EU it seems they cancel the LH150. (1300lm)


Also it exist the LH160 a stand alone unit too, with 1500lm instead of 2000lm of the LH200 version.


But they don't support BD 3D - to sad, I stand in contact with Optoma due this issue.

Only the HL10 seems to be the home cinema version with BD 3D support. (same housing as LH200 & LH160)

The LH200 reach native CR 560:1 only. Far away from the specs 200000:1.

They have to implement any kind of iris or dynamic black modes. The business LH200 & LH160 units lacks of these.

HLD LED v2.0 with any kind of a iris system can be a breakthrough. That can not be that hard.... i don't understand the company philosophies. In 2018 it must be possible to develop a clever aperture system with a DLP projector.

I still love DLPs but the trend with every new generation to the lower native contrast is a nogo…...


BR, Ron

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Here in EU it seems they cancel the LH150. (1300lm)


Also it exist the LH160 a stand alone unit too, with 1500lm instead of 2000lm of the LH200 version.


But they don't support BD 3D - to sad, I stand in contact with Optoma due this issue.

Only the HL10 seems to be the home cinema version with BD 3D support. (same housing as LH200 & LH160)

The LH200 reach native CR 560:1 only. Far away from the specs 200000:1.

They have to implement any kind of iris or dynamic black modes. The business LH200 & LH160 units lacks of these.

HLD LED v2.0 with any kind of a iris system can be a breakthrough. That can not be that hard.... i don't understand the company philosophies. In 2018 it must be possible to develop a clever aperture system with a DLP projector.

I still love DLPs but the trend with every new generation to the lower native contrast is a nogo…...


BR, Ron
Thanks for this awesome thread!

I just purchased the Optoma LH160 and I'm just awaiting the delivery.
Will try your calibration settings and see if it will work just as fine on the LH160 - because it looks very promising.

My end goal is to try to use the project in the bedroom, so hopefully the fan isn't too noisy!
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I am looking to purchase LH200 to use as a home theater PJ on 100"-125". In a room with no light coming in, but white walls/ceiling.
Is it possible to mount on ceiling and does it rotate the picture upside down? I know there is some option in the menu, but is that it?
How loud is it really? The spec says 30dB, I tried to use "noise meter" on my phone to get general idea of how loud that is, but is it distracting or ok?
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