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Is the AppleTV connected to an A/V receiver in the chain before it gets to the projector? If so, make sure the receiver's video passthrough settings are set correctly. For example, Denon receivers are set by default to a setting called "Standard" but you need to change it to "Enhanced" to pass 4:4:4. Check the user manual to see if something like that could be the case.
Hello Josh, even connected directly to the projector i'm unable to get 4:4:4 4K/60p SDR, only 4:2:2. I saw a couple posts on Apple forums from users having the same issue with other TVs also...

Maybe it's something related to the cables, because they are not HDMI 2.1. I also saw that HDMI 2.0 cables support upto 4K/30p SDR 4:4:4... I'm all messed up with all those standard. Haha!

FYI: My receiver is a Yamaha RX-V385. That receiver can is compatible with almost all the signals.

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Just got the new Sound & Vision mag' they really gave the new 4010 a great review.
Looks like the review is available on the internet: https://www.soundandvision.com/conte...ojector-review
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Hello Josh, even connected directly to the projector i'm unable to get 4:4:4 4K/60p SDR, only 4:2:2. I saw a couple posts on Apple forums from users having the same issue with other TVs also...

Maybe it's something related to the cables, because they are not HDMI 2.1. I also saw that HDMI 2.0 cables support upto 4K/30p SDR 4:4:4... I'm all messed up with all those standard. Haha!

FYI: My receiver is a Yamaha RX-V385. That receiver can is compatible with almost all the signals.
Sorry, I'm out of ideas. I hope you get to the bottom of this.

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Sorry, I'm out of ideas. I hope you get to the bottom of this.
From what i'm reading, it's not possible to do 4K/60P SDR @ 12bits (4:4:4) on hdmi 1.4a, It's only possible on hdmi 2.0. Why Epson is telling it's possible with the Epson 4010, I don't know...

Maybe i'm wrong... but since it's not working... Maybe it's an error in the manual / specs of the Epson 4010
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Can anyone tell me how th 4010 or 6040ub compares to the Panasonic PTAE-8000U? Considering upgrading...
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Can anyone tell me how th 4010 or 6040ub compares to the Panasonic PTAE-8000U? Considering upgrading...
The 4050 is the pro version of the 4010. The 6040 is the pro version of the 5040. The 5040/6040 has more contrast and ultra blacks than the 4010/4040. The 4010/4040, 5040/6040 are eshift 4K projectors and should be brighter and have better blacks then the 8000U, but the 8000U is a great 1080p projector. A few of the forum members have them in my area and they are nice especially with the auto zoom lens. One of them has a 4k DVD player with upscaling in it to get a better picture and wait until the 4K's come down more. The other one has gotten the new JVX NX7.

The 4010 probably would be somewhat of an upgrade, just not sure how much. For me it would be a big one in that I only have an Epson 2040 and the 8000U blows it away. If you have a Best Buy near by you could get one demo it and if it's not enough take it back.

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Ladeback thanks for the reply and your insights. That was my gut sense - to wait until true 4k projectors come down further in price. I just disassembled the 8000U and cleaned all the dust out of it reassembled and then recalibrated with CalMAN and my iScan Duo. While it looks good I find myself longing for a little more sharpness and better black levels. I will check out the 4010 at Best Buy for sure.
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I have a hard enough time trying to convince my wife to let me get the 4010, there is no easy I am even going to ask for one of the new JVC 4K's. They are way out of my price range.

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I have a hard enough time trying to convince my wife to let me get the 4010, there is no easy I am even going to ask for one of the new JVC 4K's. They are way out of my price range.
I just bought mine the other day. Told the wife I wanted to just go to Best Buy the next day. The next day comes, she asked why I wanted to goto BB, told here to check out this projector😗 We get to BB, she ask where is it at so she can check it out, told here it's at the service desk ready for pick up. I had bought it the night prior. Took it home and was amazed at how good it was. A HUGE upgrade from what I had before. Epson 707 Gold Edition. Glad I made the purchase.
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I just bought mine the other day. Told the wife I wanted to just go to Best Buy the next day. The next day comes, she asked why I wanted to goto BB, told here to check out this projector😗 We get to BB, she ask where is it at so she can check it out, told here it's at the service desk ready for pick up. I had bought it the night prior. Took it home and was amazed at how good it was. A HUGE upgrade from what I had before. Epson 707 Gold Edition. Glad I made the purchase.
No all she does is look for 4K movies.
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No all she does is look for 4K movies.
Wish it was that easy with my wife, but doesn't really care about 4K. Also I have a surgery coming up soon that our part is $2500.

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Has anyone done a side by side of the 4010 vs the ht2550 yet? My 2550 is ok...except I become less and less impressed with the non-black in dark scenes every day.
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Has anyone done a side by side of the 4010 vs the ht2550 yet? My 2550 is ok...except I become less and less impressed with the non-black in dark scenes every day.
4010 won't be any better in that regard. It has low native contrast close to 1500:1.
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I just bought the 4010 from amazon and will have it tomorrow,is it gonna have the same problem power supply as the 4000 and 5040 have or is it safe from that defect?

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I haven't heard of any power supplies issues with the 4010 yet... Let us know what you think. Thinking about this, the 5040 or anticipating the 5050 to replace a Sony VPL-HW30ES.
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I just bought the 4010 from amazon and will have it tomorrow,is it gonna have the same problem power supply as the 4000 and 5040 have or is it safe from that defect?
I've had mine since release day and have yet to have any issues. 500 hrs. on the bulb, too.

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thanks guys,i will also be buying a new receiver that will be 4k capable since my onkyo605 is only for 1080p only.

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I just bought the 4010 from amazon and will have it tomorrow,is it gonna have the same problem power supply as the 4000 and 5040 have or is it safe from that defect?
From where did you deduce the Epson 4000 has a power supply problem?

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I just bought the 4010 from amazon and will have it tomorrow,is it gonna have the same problem power supply as the 4000 and 5040 have or is it safe from that defect?

Not much on the power supply, at least not anything like what 5040 was experiencing. I demoed the 4000 in my 30 return period and ended up returning for the 4010 and while the improvements where subtle, they really hit the sweet spot for me. I couldn't be happier with the 4010.
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Hi all,

Could anyone get SDR 4K/60hz @ 4:4:4 running with an AppleTV or something else? I'm reading everywhere that the 4010 can do 4K/60hz SDR @ 4:4:4 but mine is stuck at 4:2:0. It can do 4K/30hz SDR @ 4:4:4 ... Premium Certified Cables... Am I missing something?

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I can tell you that from my experience that I noticed a difference coming from the 5030 to the 5040 when it came to gaming. The two big things that sold me once I spent more time with the 5040 were the increased sharpness and overall clarity of playing my Pro and X on there as well as the gaming lag being fantastic. I don’t know a lot about the 3500 but the 5030 in my opinion had terrible lag. Some games were almost unplayable. But the 5040 was night and day better. I have to assume that the 4010 you’re looking at would have just as good if not better response time than the 5040.

At the end of the day, for me the HDR gaming isn’t really all that impressive on a projector because of the limited light output. But on such a big screen (I’m running a 120”) that extra resolution bump is very noticeable and was absolutely worth it. Again, just my two cents of coming from a 1080p to a 4K enhanced projector.
Hi there - I also have the 5040UB which I am using the HDFury Linker to get the best I can out of my PS4 Pro. The problems I have are that it acts as if I need to let everything "warm-up" for 10-20 minutes before the linker starts properly passing the image without dropping in what almost appears to be a handshake failure. After that warm-up period, most of the time it will work just fine. Occasionally, it will just keep acting like it is having trouble maintaining the connection and drop every few minutes or less. Of course, this only happens with the PS4 Pro.

I am wondering if the issue could be that I am not using the correct settings for the linker. I am hoping I could bug you with a few questions:

-Are you also using the HDFury Linker?
-If so, are you encountering similar behavior to what I have described?
-If you are not seeing the same issue, would you be able to share the settings you are using with your linker?
-If you are using something other than the HDFury Linker, and you are not encountering the issues I have described, could you share which one you are using?

Note: I did reach out to HDFury support and they blew off my issues saying that it was the HDMI cable. I wrote that off as BS as most of the time it will work just fine after that "warm-up" period. In addition, any device other than the PS4 Pro works flawlessly with no dropouts whatsoever.

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To others that may have gone from a 3500 or 3700, can you say that the 4010 was a very noticeable upgrade for all formats?
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Would owners of this projector tell me what b&w movies look like. Do they display any discoloration or problems with color uniformity? Slightly reddish on one side or the other? Perhaps some pictures, even, would be great. Thank in advance.
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To others that may have gone from a 3500 or 3700, can you say that the 4010 was a very noticeable upgrade for all formats?

I can only tell you that I bought the 4010 and returned it for the 5040UB for the same price. The 5040 black levels are noticeably better, which makes a big improvement in the picture.


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I'm selling my 4010 and may upgrade to the 5040UB at a later time. Is the black level difference really that noticeable for the casual person? I'm hesitant about the 5040UB due to the power supply issues
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I'm selling my 4010 and may upgrade to the 5040UB at a later time. Is the black level difference really that noticeable for the casual person? I'm hesitant about the 5040UB due to the power supply issues
I had the 4010 first and was disappointed in general with the black level. I got the 5040UB and noticed the difference without AB comparison. I still want a JVC but putting black velvet on the ceiling above the screen also helped a ton.
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I had the 4010 first and was disappointed in general with the black level. I got the 5040UB and noticed the difference without AB comparison. I still want a JVC but putting black velvet on the ceiling above the screen also helped a ton.
Nice, if the price isn't much higher later than I'll probably pull the trigger if I decide to go back to the projector route thanks for the input
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I have a PT-AE4000. It has served me well, but I left it on a few times and it has 1700 hours on the lamp and the replace lamp light is on. This is the second lamp I have installed since I bought it in 2009. I love the projector, but a new manufacture lamp is $300-450. Maybe time for a new projector with a better auto shut off.

1. Will the 4010 shut off after it is on for a day/few hours or a blanc screen?
2. Does the 4010 have Lens Memory load that can auto switch? I read the 4010 manual, but it is not clear to me or this feature is not available in 4K. I have a 16x9 screen that I use as a cinemascope screen. I want to have 16x9 material to take part of the screen and and cinemscope to fill up the complete width of the screen. From what I read this is not possible in 4k with the 4010 or am I not understanding it correctly. Attached is a picture of my screen. thank for your help and opinions.
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Ok, I was thinking of doing the refurbished 5040, but it seems like it takes a few try's to get a good one. I have also thought of getting the new 5050, but the price tag is to much for me. I will be coming from an Epson 2040 so a 4010 would be big step up. I would also like an JVC 4K, but that's way out of my range. Is the 4010 worth the upgrade? I've seen. JVC projectors and don't see the better black levels then the Epson. I would rather have bright over the blacks.

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Ok, I was thinking of doing the refurbished 5040, but it seems like it takes a few try's to get a good one. I have also thought of getting the new 5050, but the price tag is to much for me. I will be coming from an Epson 2040 so a 4010 would be big step up. I would also like an JVC 4K, but that's way out of my range. Is the 4010 worth the upgrade? I've seen. JVC projectors and don't see the better black levels then the Epson. I would rather have bright over the blacks.
I have the pro 4050 which is the black unit of 4010 or so I am told. I have a pretty dark room now and do like the picture it throws. I have a 110" screen so it is not the largest but still is plenty bright on low lamp. In fact the difference I see on high is only when playing a 4k movie. It then brings out more highlights. I would not hesitate to recommend this projector. Others agree with me.Projector Reviews 4010-4050


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