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post #91 of 247 Old 11-21-2018, 07:45 AM
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Hi all. I just got this xgimi lune 4k. How to set hdr on or off. I not found this hdr setting at all. I will post some photo later. I own benq tk800. I can say benq win in brightness . But lune 4k win with detail
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Hi all. I just got this xgimi lune 4k. How to set hdr on or off. I not found this hdr setting at all. I will post some photo later. I own benq tk800. I can say benq win in brightness . But lune 4k win with detail
Although I don't own this PJ I have made notes on the various UST's. There are in the 4K Lune settings the ability to change the HDMI port setting to "HDMI2.0". That is the key for external 4K HDR sources. That would be what I'd try to change to see if you get what you want.
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Is your HDR image too dark also?
dark scenes are too dark on 4K HDR for me, any solutions?
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hdr movie just unwatchable color is very pale, i already change to hdmi 2.0. also xgimi lune 4k motion compensation option is to forcefull even i set it to off seem like it still in effect. iam using himedia q10pro as media player connecting to xgimi lune 4k. i cant found any option in xgimi lune 4k about hdr option on off, also not found hdmi range (full,limited,auto) option like benq tk800.


my screen is alr type but not for laser projector, the screen have great brightness with benqtk800 , even with all light turned on, but on xgimi lune 4k with all light turned on not watchable
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i think benqtk800 have more option compare to xgimi lune4k . its have hdr on off, more color option , hdmi range option, even resolution option which xgimi dont have. i just wish xgimi will have many option like benq just hope
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look's like its the himedia q10 pro fault not the xgimi i try to switch player to zidoo x9s now hdr work like charm very beautiful indeed, btw how to edit post in this forum cant find any edit option thanks
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here is some picture shot with xiaomi mimax 3 , using zidoo hdr on contrast brightness standard all 50. demo file 4k hdr














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Hi all. I just got this xgimi lune 4k. How to set hdr on or off. I not found this hdr setting at all. I will post some photo later. I own benq tk800. I can say benq win in brightness . But lune 4k win with detail
Would you mind sharing where you located and where you bought Lune 4k?
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look's like its the himedia q10 pro fault not the xgimi i try to switch player to zidoo x9s now hdr work like charm very beautiful indeed, btw how to edit post in this forum cant find any edit option thanks

Hi Tingyen,


Can you post some photos of the Xgimi Lune 4K Playing 4K HDR scenes from Dark Knight, Avengers, Transformers or any other action movie you have via Zidoo X9s?



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Looks like a 4K Lune competitor will soon be available. To my understanding this is the international version (with some small upgrades e.g. higher brightness) to the JMGO U1. JMGO has a North American distributor JMGOUS. The info is still only in Chinese but there is the promise of a English translation very soon along with the ability to pre-order. JMGO S3

In the past I corresponded with JMGOUS to get a rough price for the S3 and it may very well be priced out of my budget. It will be great to see the Xiaomi 4K UST when/if that is announced so we can get more competition and availability.
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Looks like a 4K Lune competitor will soon be available. To my understanding this is the international version (with some small upgrades e.g. higher brightness) to the JMGO U1. JMGO has a North American distributor JMGOUS. The info is still only in Chinese but there is the promise of a English translation very soon along with the ability to pre-order. JMGO S3

In the past I corresponded with JMGOUS to get a rough price for the S3 and it may very well be priced out of my budget. It will be great to see the Xiaomi 4K UST when/if that is announced so we can get more competition and availability.

s3 originally is plan to fight xgimi t1 the true 4k laser but seems like jmgo feel the u1 can't compete with lune 4k. very interest to see what price range is s3
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Well, the lune arrived in one piece. Well done afgan express.
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Well, the lune arrived in one piece. Well done afgan express.
Congratulations. I'm curious was the picture from one of the Android TV apps, side loaded apk or external play (if yes which player). Also at least to me it looked like your using a wall or is are you using a screen. If a screen what type (fixed frame ...) and what material/gain.
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Look at the 3rd line.

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Look at the 3rd line.
Does anyone has comparison image for Wemax vs Luna?
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I just received my lune 4k yesterday. Great image quality even on the white wall, superior to wemax which I tested at a shop earlier last week (No technical analysis but purely from my naked eyes). Speaker was definitely better. There's no tweaking of the sound though, would prefer heavier bass (or attach it to external sound system).

Sideloaded an youtube app using xgimi assistant on my iphone and it's playing clips in 4k, the quality was pretty amazing (night time with minimal lights). Watched some animals running around and it was smooth with sharp details (for a PJ). No external gaming console needed as suggested by other people in the thread. Waiting for my TV cabinet before I know the right height to install the PET 120 inch screen.

I spent an hour trying to figure out why the +/- button on the remote refused to turn up/down the volume, and also the screen always suddenly go blurry (I had to use the xgimi assistant app to re-focus and change volume). I even asked the seller in Taobao but it was 1am so no one replied. Then I realised there's a switch in the bottom of the remote that toggles between volume and focus. It was on focus all the time. So the harder I tried to turn up or down the volume by pressing the +/- buttons I was actually changing the focus making it blurry or sharp... how stupid.

One other thing I noticed is it doesn't allow you to use VPN apps (for viewing china-based contents), it says the device doesn't support VPN. I read somewhere that it's because the government restricted the use in Android boxes and Xgimi was happy to comply, causing all VPN app to not work. Anyone know of ways to remedy this?
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Now this is interesting. Display or GPU issue?
HD620 GPU, DP1.2
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Anyone can recommend 3D glasses for the Lune 4K?
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HDR appears to be defective out of the box.
One can easily do a comparison between youtube BT709 and BT2020 clip using the built-in player.
Fortunately, the UB820 has the option to output SDR/2020 instead of HDR/2020.
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HDR appears to be defective out of the box.
One can easily do a comparison between youtube BT709 and BT2020 clip using the built-in player.
Fortunately, the UB820 has the option to output SDR/2020 instead of HDR/2020.
Aren't those titles reversed?

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Aren't those titles reversed?
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The image on the left is BT709. Clips are taken from here:


The Lune messed up either the HDR or BT2020. Would you happen to know where I can find SDR/2020 samples for testing?

Thanks and best regards,
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I bought my lune 4k on 11/11 (no discount) it was sent from HK using Aramex and will be delivered to me in the next few days. It can be bought on Amazon.com
I can hardly wait to start testing it
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Focus Ring

Can someone kindly explain how the focus ring work? How much adjustment is needed to make a difference? Is there a default position?

The sharpness of the image projected by Lune is perhaps less than ideal. Can someone try the attached single pixel test image and post the screenshot?

Many thanks and best regards,
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Focus Ring

Can someone kindly explain how the focus ring work? How much adjustment is needed to make a difference? Is there a default position?

The sharpness of the image projected by Lune is perhaps less than ideal. Can someone try the attached single pixel test image and post the screenshot?

Many thanks and best regards,
For the focus ring, my perception is that it makes a lot of differences in the corners, almost none in the middle.
Try for example to display some text in one of the upper corner of the screen and play with the focus ring. You should clearly see the effect.
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Try loading this image - https://aescripts.com/media/catalog/...fonts_grid.gif or similar
go to the corners of your screen and adjust accordingly until you see tiny projecting stripes on the screen.
worked for me.
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What are your recommended settings for this PJ?

I've disabled motion compensation, and left adjustments of brightness, contrast at default 50
Can HDR be disabled with hdmi 2.0?
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So, for those who ended up getting one, is there a general consensus yet? Is it better than the Xiaomi Mi, the Wemax One Pro, and the original 1080p Lune. In your estimation, is the picture overall better and brighter than those other non-4K devices? Are you overall satisfied, or do you regret plunking money down on it?

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Video Output: XGIMI Lune (XJ01V), XYScreen Pet Crystal screen
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Thanks for the kind reply, spacewil and Ofir Kris.

No single pixel screen shot from both of you? It's a good way to assess the lens quality.
I'd like to know how sensitive the focus ring is. How many revolution does one need to turn before seeing any change?
Many thanks and best regards,
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Xgimi Lune 4K Owners Thread (No Price Talk)

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HDR appears to be defective out of the box.
One can easily do a comparison between youtube BT709 and BT2020 clip using the built-in player.
Fortunately, the UB820 has the option to output SDR/2020 instead of HDR/2020.


It’s doubt it’s defective. HDR is always darker. This has been a struggle for most projector manufacturers as projectors can’t produce the same range between the black floor and peak white. Most projectors have a tone mapping curve to compensate for the lower brightness and contrast inherent with projectors. Look for an HDR brightness setting. The Epson UB projectors have the same issue when the colorspace is set to BT2020.
The second picture is not as vibrant but the colors do look a lot more natural to my eyes. That could be do to my phones screen though.
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After much waiting the Lune arrived today. It arrived in a huge double box and was larger then I imagined.
I opened it and played some youtube 4Ks on a white wall in a lit room. The images were really great. I noticed that apps on the lune itself can't display resolution above 1080p
All the apps. and language change were preinstalled by the seller that added a note asking not to update the system or all his setups will be deleted.
The sound from the lune surprised me. It was a lot better then I imagined.
I will install the lune in its permanent place with its PET screen tomorrow.

More to come...
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