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I’m staring at the HT2050A and realizing they probably could have gotten even better contrast/black performance out of this model if they didn’t have so much damn light leaking out from around the lens. I never noticed it until now, after taking down the HT3550.
You can put a cable with the same thickness as the spacing between the lens case and the projector case. I can definitely see a halo in the upper middle of the screen when not using this mod.
Got the idea from here: https://www.soundandvision.com/conte...-review-page-2
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Could you try enabling SBS/TAB while at @120 hz?
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Early March is quoted by a UK Dealer with the option to pre order but being sensible I expect slippage will move that to End March - that's when I expect to take delivery of mine (no date advised yet by my Dealer)
I emailed BenQ UK this morning and they advised a release date of early April. A bit disappointing as a UK dealer had told me 11th March.
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A guy gets busy for almost a day and comes back and has a lot of catching up to do with the posts. All great info.

Question to anyone here who may know. I purchased a 25' AmazonBasics High-Speed HDMI Cable last year for my HT2050a. 4.5/5 stars with 18,590 reviews. However, the Description contradicts itself. In one place, it says "displays 4K Video at 24Hz, 1080p at 60Hz with 48-bit deep color and supports bandwidth of 10.2Gbps". In another section of the Description, it says it supports bandwidths up to 18Gbps.

If this cable truly only supports 10.2Gbps rather than 18Gbps, will I have issues running 4K with HDR to the HT3550? Also, Do you know via a display on the PJ when it senses 4K with HDR and turns on the HDR10 settings?
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Question to anyone here who may know. I purchased a 25' AmazonBasics High-Speed HDMI Cable last year for my HT2050a. 4.5/5 stars with 18,590 reviews. However, the Description contradicts itself. In one place, it says "displays 4K Video at 24Hz, 1080p at 60Hz with 48-bit deep color and supports bandwidth of 10.2Gbps". In another section of the Description, it says it supports bandwidths up to 18Gbps.



If this cable truly only supports 10.2Gbps rather than 18Gbps, will I have issues running 4K with HDR to the HT3550? Also, Do you know via a display on the PJ when it senses 4K with HDR and turns on the HDR10 settings?


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You may have issues with that cable but it might be worth giving it a try.

HT3550 will automatically sense HDR content and put it into HDR 10 mode. In the top left corner it will say picture mode is HDR 10. You will definitely know when HDR content is detected


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You can put a cable with the same thickness as the spacing between the lens case and the projector case. I can definitely see a halo in the upper middle of the screen when not using this mod.
Got the idea from here: https://www.soundandvision.com/conte...-review-page-2
Maybe I will put a plate as well to get rid of the ceiling halo as well.

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Could you try enabling SBS/TAB while at @120 hz?


The projector overrides any refresh rate that you have set for yourself. It does the refresh rate for you at 120 Hz. Tested loads of SBS content but don’t have any top and bottom to test with.


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The projector overrides any refresh rate that you have set for yourself. It does the refresh rate for you at 120 Hz. Tested loads of SBS content but don’t have any top and bottom to test with.


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So if you set the projector at 120Hz, then select SBS or TAB from the projector menu (doesn't matter which), it stays at 120Hz?
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So if you set the projector at 120Hz, then select SBS or TAB from the projector menu (doesn't matter which), it stays at 120Hz?
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https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...bottom&sp=mAEB


No when the projector engages in 3D mode it will automatically set the refresh rate to 120hz as it needs to be at that refresh rate for the DLP Link 3D to work.

Start playing SBS 3D>Set projector 3D mode to SBS in settings>Profit


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No when the projector engages in 3D mode it will automatically set the refresh rate to 120hz as it needs to be at that refresh rate for the DLP Link 3D to work.

Start playing SBS 3D>Set projector 3D mode to SBS in settings>Profit


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What about frame packing and frame sequential?
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What about frame packing and frame sequential?


You can manually set the 3D mode to frame packing as well. When a 3D blu Ray is detected it automatically engages 3D. You do nothing.


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Question to anyone here who may know. I purchased a 25' AmazonBasics High-Speed HDMI Cable last year for my HT2050a. 4.5/5 stars with 18,590 reviews. However, the Description contradicts itself. In one place, it says "displays 4K Video at 24Hz, 1080p at 60Hz with 48-bit deep color and supports bandwidth of 10.2Gbps". In another section of the Description, it says it supports bandwidths up to 18Gbps.



If this cable truly only supports 10.2Gbps rather than 18Gbps, will I have issues running 4K with HDR to the HT3550? Also, Do you know via a display on the PJ when it senses 4K with HDR and turns on the HDR10 settings?


I have that same cable. Thought it would work as it’s the size of a pipe. It didn’t.

The issue isn’t as much the quality of the cable but the length. Eventually I just rearranged my room to get the equipment closer to my projector. Honestly, having the equipment at the back of the room is one of my favorite things about having a projector: no clutter. I now run a 15’ Media Bridge with no issues.

I would try it first just to make sure. It may work or it may not— just be prepared to invest in a new cable. I’ve seen long runs of HDMI with the premium HDMI sticker attached (which is supposed to indicate bandwidth is sufficient for 4K/60) but you may also want to consider a fiber solution. I know they’re big bucks but I’ve seen a lot of positive comments about the quality.

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Question to anyone here who may know. I purchased a 25' AmazonBasics High-Speed HDMI Cable last year for my HT2050a. 4.5/5 stars with 18,590 reviews. However, the Description contradicts itself. In one place, it says "displays 4K Video at 24Hz, 1080p at 60Hz with 48-bit deep color and supports bandwidth of 10.2Gbps". In another section of the Description, it says it supports bandwidths up to 18Gbps.



If this cable truly only supports 10.2Gbps rather than 18Gbps, will I have issues running 4K with HDR to the HT3550? Also, Do you know via a display on the PJ when it senses 4K with HDR and turns on the HDR10 settings?


I recommended this cable all the time. Cheap and is one of the most well constructed cables around. I use the 40’ length and get full 18gbps. The 40 footer is only $37

https://sewelldirect.com/premium-4k-hdmi-cable-40-ft-




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I recommended this cable all the time. Cheap and is one of the most well constructed cables around. I use the 40’ length and get full 18gbps. The 40 footer is only $37

https://sewelldirect.com/premium-4k-hdmi-cable-40-ft-


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Nice quality cable at a good price and it's CL3 rated for safe, in-wall installation.
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I recommended this cable all the time. Cheap and is one of the most well constructed cables around. I use the 40’ length and get full 18gbps. The 40 footer is only $37

https://sewelldirect.com/premium-4k-hdmi-cable-40-ft-




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For a 30 foot HDMI run, is it the consensus that a single cable is better or is two 15 foot cables with a repeater in the middle better? For that length should I be looking for an active or passive cable? Right now I'm looking at the 30 foot Monoprice certified premium cable. I know my current 30 foot Redmere cable won't cut it for 4K.
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For a 30 foot HDMI run, is it the consensus that a single cable is better or is two 15 foot cables with a repeater in the middle better? For that length should I be looking for an active or passive cable? Right now I'm looking at the 30 foot Monoprice certified premium cable. I know my current 30 foot Redmere cable won't cut it for 4K.


That cable I recommended does well at 40 feet. I have 12 months on mine and no issues with 4K hdr. If you are installing in wall it’s always a good idea to do conduit for future proofing fwiw


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Here is a schematic with precise measurements of mounting hole locations for the HT3550.
This is very useful, and mostly answers my question of several days ago. Do you happen to know where the lens centerline would lie on this diagram?

Nevermind! Now I see it in small print on the diagram!
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I wouldn't put too much weight right now on things like exact input lag time of an engineering sample. That's one of many areas that could be improved in production samples with optimized firmware.

As far as the moving sales date it's important to realize that this can easily change with any imported product. For countries like the US that rely heavily on products imported from other countries delays can often be traced to backups at ports of entry. My wife operated a small retail business and spent many hours on the phone with unhappy customers complaining about back order delays. Most of the time the delays were due to backups at ports of entry where thousands of shipping containers were awaiting clearance from an inadequate number of customs inspectors.
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This is very useful, and mostly answers my question of several days ago. Do you happen to know where the lens centerline would lie on this diagram?



Nevermind! Now I see it in small print on the diagram!


Yeah it’s in there. For reference though

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Yeah it’s in there. For reference though

You beat me to it.
Here is the entire manual. The depictions above are at page 40.
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I have that same cable. Thought it would work as it’s the size of a pipe. It didn’t.

The issue isn’t as much the quality of the cable but the length. Eventually I just rearranged my room to get the equipment closer to my projector. Honestly, having the equipment at the back of the room is one of my favorite things about having a projector: no clutter. I now run a 15’ Media Bridge with no issues.

I would try it first just to make sure. It may work or it may not— just be prepared to invest in a new cable. I’ve seen long runs of HDMI with the premium HDMI sticker attached (which is supposed to indicate bandwidth is sufficient for 4K/60) but you may also want to consider a fiber solution. I know they’re big bucks but I’ve seen a lot of positive comments about the quality.
I may be able to get by with a 20' cable. My equipment is in a recessed cabinet in the back of the room. Due to a beam and Trunk line in the back of the room, I had to do some crazy methods to install the drop ceiling. So moving a tile isn't an option unless I remove the ones from the back and work them all out like a puzzle Because of that, I can't do a straight shot from PJ to cabinet and down to the Denon Receiver. I'll have to play around with it to see the least amount of cable I can get away with. I could also place the Denon Receiver on the Top Shelf of the Cabinet to eliminate the Rise portion of the distance, but they are heavy and not sure how my 3/4" MDF shelf would like the heavy Denon. It's on the bottom shelf now that is supported by 2x4s.

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I recommended this cable all the time. Cheap and is one of the most well constructed cables around. I use the 40’ length and get full 18gbps. The 40 footer is only $37

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That's a cheap price. $26 for a 25' cable. Just bookmarked that URL in case my current cable won't work. I don't mind spending $40 or so for a new cable that will work. I'd spend the $100+ for the Fiber cables if it's a must, but will try my current one then this Sewell first.
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Any idea of how HT 3550 compares to Epson HC4000 or HC4010? I am currently considering buying a projector for my loft. There is some light during the day but my watching would be mostly late evenings and nights when the light would be 100% controlled. I plan to watch movies mostly. I understand with Epson you get more features like lens shift and lens memory, but based on picture quality which one would be a better choice?
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Do most of you connect your UHD Player Video/Audio Out to a Receiver and out of the Receiver to the Projector for HDR, or is it best to bring the Video directly from the UHD Player to the PJ? I recall hearing a lot of handshaking issues a year or more ago with UHD Players, Receivers and Projectors. Maybe no issues now.
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Any idea of how HT 3550 compares to Epson HC4000 or HC4010? I am currently considering buying a projector for my loft. There is some light during the day but my watching would be mostly late evenings and nights when the light would be 100% controlled. I plan to watch movies mostly. I understand with Epson you get more features like lens shift and lens memory, but based on picture quality which one would be a better choice?

Scott would be the better one to answer this as he had a 4000.

My (partly) uninformed opinion:
The HT3550 has a big resolution advantage but, despite how much better the BenQ is than it’s predecessors, I don’t expect it to keep up with the Epson’s blacks/contrast.

Everything else is tit for tat:

The Epson has lower lag but lacks the HT3550’s full bandwidth HDMI and crisp motion handling.

The HT3550 will auto detect HDR (instead of forcing you into the menu) and it’s MEMC works in 4K. Meanwhile the Epson has a motorized lens with memory that makes it possible to run a 2.35 screen without a costly A lens.

The HT3550 is small and handsome and makes too much noise in it’s normal lamp mode. The Epson is large and heavy and ugly and is way more placement flexible.

Both have DCI, both do HDR. The Epson has been lauded for it’s DCI-P3 color, meanwhile BenQ is getting plenty of early praise for it’s HDR PRO tone mapping.

They’re an interesting pair. I’m not convinced these two are competitors considering how much space separates them in price but I could be wrong. It seems like Epson is positioning the 4010 as a poor mans JVC (that’s a compliment) as I don’t see the 4010 outside of a dedicated home theater (can you imagine the Epson sitting on someone’s coffee table?). Meanwhile, BenQ is trying to assert themselves as the performance/value leader in 4K the same way they have in 1080p for so long. The HT3550 hits a price/performance sweet spot that it should appeal to enthusiasts and casual users alike.
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Scott would be the better one to answer this as he had a 4000.

My (partly) uninformed opinion:
The HT3550 has a big resolution advantage but, despite how much better the BenQ is than it’s predecessors, I don’t expect it to keep up with the Epson’s blacks/contrast.

Everything else is tit for tat:

The Epson has lower lag but lacks the HT3550’s full bandwidth HDMI and crisp motion handling.

The HT3550 will auto detect HDR (instead of forcing you into the menu) and it’s MEMC works in 4K. Meanwhile the Epson has a motorized lens with memory that makes it possible to run a 2.35 screen without a costly A lens.

The HT3550 is small and handsome and makes too much noise in it’s normal lamp mode. The Epson is large and heavy and ugly and is way more placement flexible.

Both have DCI, both do HDR. The Epson has been lauded for it’s DCI-P3 color, meanwhile BenQ is getting plenty of early praise for it’s HDR PRO tone mapping.

They’re an interesting pair. I’m not convinced these two are competitors considering how much space separates them in price but I could be wrong. It seems like Epson is positioning the 4010 as a poor mans JVC (that’s a compliment) as I don’t see the 4010 outside of a dedicated home theater (can you imagine the Epson sitting on someone’s coffee table?). Meanwhile, BenQ is trying to assert themselves as the performance/value leader in 4K the same way they have in 1080p for so long. The HT3550 hits a price/performance sweet spot that it should appeal to enthusiasts and casual users alike.
I am thinking HC4000 which is currently selling for around $1499, and during sale went down to $1240 does share the same price range as HT3550. As I have been considering to get a PJ for a couple of months now, I have read a lot on HT 2550, TK800, HC4000 etc. And was having a hard time deciding between these, and now with HT 3550 choice is becoming harder.
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Scott would be the better one to answer this as he had a 4000.

My (partly) uninformed opinion:
The HT3550 has a big resolution advantage but, despite how much better the BenQ is than it’s predecessors, I don’t expect it to keep up with the Epson’s blacks/contrast.

Everything else is tit for tat:

The Epson has lower lag but lacks the HT3550’s full bandwidth HDMI and crisp motion handling.

The HT3550 will auto detect HDR (instead of forcing you into the menu) and it’s MEMC works in 4K. Meanwhile the Epson has a motorized lens with memory that makes it possible to run a 2.35 screen without a costly A lens.

The HT3550 is small and handsome and makes too much noise in it’s normal lamp mode. The Epson is large and heavy and ugly and is way more placement flexible.

Both have DCI, both do HDR. The Epson has been lauded for it’s DCI-P3 color, meanwhile BenQ is getting plenty of early praise for it’s HDR PRO tone mapping.

They’re an interesting pair. I’m not convinced these two are competitors considering how much space separates them in price but I could be wrong. It seems like Epson is positioning the 4010 as a poor mans JVC (that’s a compliment) as I don’t see the 4010 outside of a dedicated home theater (can you imagine the Epson sitting on someone’s coffee table?). Meanwhile, BenQ is trying to assert themselves as the performance/value leader in 4K the same way they have in 1080p for so long. The HT3550 hits a price/performance sweet spot that it should appeal to enthusiasts and casual users alike.
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Yes it can you just have to switch on the Wide Color feature in the advanced picture menu.

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I am thinking HC4000 which is currently selling for around $1499, and during sale went down to $1240 does share the same price range as HT3550. As I have been considering to get a PJ for a couple of months now, I have read a lot on HT 2550, TK800, HC4000 etc. And was having a hard time deciding between these, and now with HT 3550 choice is becoming harder.


The 4000 and 4010 are often lumped together but, from what I’ve read, the 4010 is a significant upgrade even if they didn’t maybe go far enough (it’s 2019, you shouldn’t have to manually switch between SDR and HDR).

There are a LOT of reviews of the 4000 out there so you should be able to get a good idea of what it’s all about. It’s a really good price that’s for sure.

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