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What site is that on?
Best Buy & Amazon to name two.
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Amazon is selling at 1399. No discount.


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This projector will be in action at Taipei Audio Show in December. I will be attending, and will post the impressions.
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BenQ W2700 pictures leaked:









Source: https://www.audionet.com.tw/thread-1...T4265dS8L0rr4g
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Source: https://www.audionet.com.tw/thread-1...T4265dS8L0rr4g


Toslink output! Glad BenQ included the 12v trigger.

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that vertical shift dial looks WAY more use-able than my 1070's
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that vertical shift dial looks WAY more use-able than my 1070's


Yeah, BenQ fixed that starting with the 2050/3050.
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Yeah, BenQ fixed that starting with the 2050/3050.


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Lol!

You move your projector around a lot?

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Looks like those price cuts are live. I'm thinking of going for that TK800 now and seeing what comes up later
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That W2700 looks fab! Love the auto lens cap. Is that a auto lens cap?!?

Edit. Nahh looks fixed.

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Ok, I'm ready. Just need this projector!
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Most impressive feature seems to be the 94% coverage of DCI-P3 but at what cost? The W1700 was rated 2200 lumens but managed less than 1000 lumens in cinema mode at mid zoom (https://www.projectorreviews.com/ben...uredbrightness). The W2700 is rated 200 less than that (2000 lumens). This is not going to do HDR any justice.

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I'm about 95% Ready to buy the optoma uhd50 --- if anyone has Credible information that this will launch at $1500 or less speak now or forever Hold your peace


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So when is the real release date? The new price for Optoma UHD51A is very tempting now...even with the holiday return policy to Jan 31 of 2019.....is it before Jan 31 2019 for this new Benq ?

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I'm confused. The LG HU80KA is 4k ultra short throw and laser. And isn't it real 4k?

Shouldn't we wait for a real 4k laser projector under $3k?

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I had been pretty much set on making a decision between the new Epson Pro Cinema 4050, Optoma UHD51ALV, Optoma UHD65 or the Benq TK800, to replace my old timer Epson 5010 with a 4K HDR Projector. Owing to some of Sage11x' posts describing the shortage of pixels on the non-DLP chips in this list of projectors, I've been leaning strongly towards the DLP.

This announcement of BenQ 2700 has thrown a wrench in those plans. Before I go ahead & scrap everything and sit & wait, wanted to get some advice from people in this thread.

I'm coming from an Epson 5010, wanting to upgrade to 4K HDR. Initially I was all set to buy one of the E-Shift/E-Enhancement offerings as I would love to get the Motorized Focus/Zoom/Shift. But after tuning in to many of Sage11x' posts, the missing pixels turned me off. Still enticed by the Epson Pro Cinema 4050 though, but still very leaning into DLP 8.3M pixels - just undecided.

My requirements:
- 150" Screen
- I sit about 10ft from the screen
- NO GAMING/SPORTS! Only Movies/TV
- Definitely want 3D!
- Best UHD HDR under $3k can buy

My sweet spot is around $2,300, but I can go as high as $3,000 for significant gains.

I'm willing to let go of motorized Zoom/Focus/Shift for the sake of 8.3m pixels, as long as brightness & blacks are not sacrificed. Ultimately I'm looking for better Picture Quality, both 4K HDR & 1080p, better 3D than my Epson 5010, at the same screen size/sitting position --- as opposed to frills & fancy.

That said - should I wait for this BenQ 2700?

Or, go now with:
- BenQ TK800
- Optoma UHD65
- Optoma UHD51ALV
- Epson Pro Home Cinema 4050

Appreciate any advice I can get!

Thanks.

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I had been pretty much set on making a decision between the new Epson Pro Cinema 4050, Optoma UHD51ALV, Optoma UHD65 or the Benq TK800, to replace my old timer Epson 5010 with a 4K HDR Projector. Owing to some of Sage11x' posts describing the shortage of pixels on the non-DLP chips in this list of projectors, I've been leaning strongly towards the DLP.

This announcement of BenQ 2700 has thrown a wrench in those plans. Before I go ahead & scrap everything and sit & wait, wanted to get some advice from people in this thread.

I'm coming from an Epson 5010, wanting to upgrade to 4K HDR. Initially I was all set to buy one of the E-Shift/E-Enhancement offerings as I would love to get the Motorized Focus/Zoom/Shift. But after tuning in to many of Sage11x' posts, the missing pixels turned me off. Still enticed by the Epson Pro Cinema 4050 though, but still very leaning into DLP 8.3M pixels - just undecided.

My requirements:
- 150" Screen
- I sit about 10ft from the screen
- NO GAMING/SPORTS! Only Movies/TV
- Definitely want 3D!
- Best UHD HDR under $3k can buy

My sweet spot is around $2,300, but I can go as high as $3,000 for significant gains.

I'm willing to let go of motorized Zoom/Focus/Shift for the sake of 8.3m pixels, as long as brightness & blacks are not sacrificed. Ultimately I'm looking for better Picture Quality, both 4K HDR & 1080p, better 3D than my Epson 5010, at the same screen size/sitting position --- as opposed to frills & fancy.

That said - should I wait for this BenQ 2700?

Or, go now with:
- BenQ TK800
- Optoma UHD65
- Optoma UHD51ALV
- Epson Pro Home Cinema 4050

Appreciate any advice I can get!

Thanks.
Out of those options, I would say the Epson 4050 is your best bet. The UHD65 doesn't do 3D.

Though if I were you, I'd wait for the W2700.

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The Epson 4050 has horrible 3D. I'd go TK800 or this one.
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I had been pretty much set on making a decision between the new Epson Pro Cinema 4050, Optoma UHD51ALV, Optoma UHD65 or the Benq TK800, to replace my old timer Epson 5010 with a 4K HDR Projector. Owing to some of Sage11x' posts describing the shortage of pixels on the non-DLP chips in this list of projectors, I've been leaning strongly towards the DLP.

This announcement of BenQ 2700 has thrown a wrench in those plans. Before I go ahead & scrap everything and sit & wait, wanted to get some advice from people in this thread.

I'm coming from an Epson 5010, wanting to upgrade to 4K HDR. Initially I was all set to buy one of the E-Shift/E-Enhancement offerings as I would love to get the Motorized Focus/Zoom/Shift. But after tuning in to many of Sage11x' posts, the missing pixels turned me off. Still enticed by the Epson Pro Cinema 4050 though, but still very leaning into DLP 8.3M pixels - just undecided.

My requirements:
- 150" Screen
- I sit about 10ft from the screen
- NO GAMING/SPORTS! Only Movies/TV
- Definitely want 3D!
- Best UHD HDR under $3k can buy

My sweet spot is around $2,300, but I can go as high as $3,000 for significant gains.

I'm willing to let go of motorized Zoom/Focus/Shift for the sake of 8.3m pixels, as long as brightness & blacks are not sacrificed. Ultimately I'm looking for better Picture Quality, both 4K HDR & 1080p, better 3D than my Epson 5010, at the same screen size/sitting position --- as opposed to frills & fancy.

That said - should I wait for this BenQ 2700?

Or, go now with:
- BenQ TK800
- Optoma UHD65
- Optoma UHD51ALV
- Epson Pro Home Cinema 4050

Appreciate any advice I can get!

Thanks.
I'd suggest an Acer V7850 for 4K and a Viewsonic PG700WU for 3D and non-4k viewing, the two together would make an excellent combo at not much more than a single unit.
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Same throw as the widely popular W1070. Dynamic Iris. HLG. First 4x 4K shifter with no more gray pond of mirror border. LENS SHIFT. 2000 Lumens. RGBRGB color wheel with 100% Rec709. 3D.

Looks good on paper. The first no-compromise budget 4K projector?


https://www.benq.com/en/projector/ci...ema/w2700.html
I'm getting a 404 for that link. I've been reading the thread and some of the links but haven't seen any listing for the Input lag. Is it better than the 30ms at least?

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I'm getting a 404 for that link. I've been reading the thread and some of the links but haven't seen any listing for the Input lag. Is it better than the 30ms at least?


I expect it to match the HT2550/TK800. So, around 44-50ms.

The reason you are seeing 404 is that BenQ hasn’t officially announced this projector yet. The link was a leak.

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I had been pretty much set on making a decision between the new Epson Pro Cinema 4050, Optoma UHD51ALV, Optoma UHD65 or the Benq TK800, to replace my old timer Epson 5010 with a 4K HDR Projector. Owing to some of Sage11x' posts describing the shortage of pixels on the non-DLP chips in this list of projectors, I've been leaning strongly towards the DLP.



This announcement of BenQ 2700 has thrown a wrench in those plans. Before I go ahead & scrap everything and sit & wait, wanted to get some advice from people in this thread.



I'm coming from an Epson 5010, wanting to upgrade to 4K HDR. Initially I was all set to buy one of the E-Shift/E-Enhancement offerings as I would love to get the Motorized Focus/Zoom/Shift. But after tuning in to many of Sage11x' posts, the missing pixels turned me off. Still enticed by the Epson Pro Cinema 4050 though, but still very leaning into DLP 8.3M pixels - just undecided.



My requirements:

- 150" Screen

- I sit about 10ft from the screen

- NO GAMING/SPORTS! Only Movies/TV

- Definitely want 3D!

- Best UHD HDR under $3k can buy



My sweet spot is around $2,300, but I can go as high as $3,000 for significant gains.



I'm willing to let go of motorized Zoom/Focus/Shift for the sake of 8.3m pixels, as long as brightness & blacks are not sacrificed. Ultimately I'm looking for better Picture Quality, both 4K HDR & 1080p, better 3D than my Epson 5010, at the same screen size/sitting position --- as opposed to frills & fancy.



That said - should I wait for this BenQ 2700?



Or, go now with:

- BenQ TK800

- Optoma UHD65

- Optoma UHD51ALV

- Epson Pro Home Cinema 4050



Appreciate any advice I can get!



Thanks.


I had the Epson 4000 e-shifter. Very similar to the 4050. Nice piece of kit especially with the lens shift and motorized zoom. Contrast was decent but I noticed the lack of sharpness. The ht2550 and tk800 were much sharper and the hdr implementation was an upgrade on the BenQas well. Contrast was marginally better on the Epson 4000.

I have a 160” screen so while I liked the ht2550, I felt like I want a bit more brightness. That is the main reason I use the TK800 in my setup. For the brightness... and it is still good at colors. I love it.

With your large screen I like a Tk800 now (good 3D) or if you can wait for the W2700/HT3550, go that route. For what the HT3550 will lack in brightness, I think it will be a performer in the contrast/color categories.

Here’s a quickly put together video I did of the tk800 https://youtu.be/iDAuSeOtFoU I need to do part 2 with my 7 months in impressions.

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I expect it to match the HT2550/TK800. So, around 44-50ms.
I hope you're wrong on that one. The three main things that people complained about the 1st gen 4K 240hz shifters are: a) pond of mirrors / light border (fixed), b) low contrast ratio (fixed, at least when using a dynamic iris like on this one), and c) much higher input lag compared to 500$ 1080p DLPs

Input lag has always been one of DLP's strong suits, so it's a shame if they didn't improve it, at least a little. 33ms would be acceptable. There is no way I'm downgrading my projector in important aspects to get "4K".

Also, if this one does actually measure at 94% P3 coverage, with anything close to 2000 or even 1500 lumens, then it's a game changer as that will force all the others to follow suit for 2019 models. There will be no excuse, even for lamp-based projectors. If the P3 coverage is "always on" and they are claiming 2000 lumens, but that rating is for rec 709, then P3 should be even brighter. This is why I think the 2000 lumen rating is for P3. Or maybe it's for rec 709 and there is a separate filter that goes into the light path, like Cinema Filter, when it's needed. This solution would give higher rec 709 brightness (useful for 3D and HDR w/o WCG), but a 4K projector should go hand in hand with P3, I think. If you want the highest rec 709 lumens, just get a bright 1080p DLP and end it. Filters that get put mechanically into the light path cause problems, it makes the design more complicated, more stuff that can break and require servicing.

One thing's for sure, if the w2700 can do 94% P3 at 2000 lumens using a lamp, then a low of people on AVS are going to have to eat crow after saying P3 was impossible with decent lumens in a lamp projector. Actually, Cine4Home.de as well. But we'll see what it measures to. Including input lag. Knock on wood.
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I hope you're wrong on that one. The three main things that people complained about the 1st gen 4K 240hz shifters are: a) pond of mirrors / light border (fixed), b) low contrast ratio (fixed, at least when using a dynamic iris like on this one), and c) much higher input lag compared to 500$ 1080p DLPs



Input lag has always been one of DLP's strong suits, so it's a shame if they didn't improve it, at least a little. 33ms would be acceptable. There is no way I'm downgrading my projector in important aspects to get "4K".



Also, if this one does actually measure at 94% P3 coverage, with anything close to 2000 or even 1500 lumens, then it's a game changer as that will force all the others to follow suit for 2019 models. There will be no excuse, even for lamp-based projectors. If the P3 coverage is "always on" and they are claiming 2000 lumens, but that rating is for rec 709, then P3 should be even brighter. This is why I think the 2000 lumen rating is for P3. Or maybe it's for rec 709 and there is a separate filter that goes into the light path, like Cinema Filter, when it's needed. This solution would give higher rec 709 brightness (useful for 3D and HDR w/o WCG), but a 4K projector should go hand in hand with P3, I think. If you want the highest rec 709 lumens, just get a bright 1080p DLP and end it. Filters that get put mechanically into the light path cause problems, it makes the design more complicated, more stuff that can break and require servicing.



One thing's for sure, if the w2700 can do 94% P3 at 2000 lumens using a lamp, then a low of people on AVS are going to have to eat crow after saying P3 was impossible with decent lumens in a lamp projector. Actually, Cine4Home.de as well. But we'll see what it measures to. Including input lag. Knock on wood.


I’m almost certain the the p3 filter is only on part of the colorwheel and not on the lens at all. The only other single chip p3 capable projector that I can think of is the Barco Loki and it was done this way. Putting the filter on the lens would add cost and limit the flexibility of the light output as well as color settings. Also I’m almost sure the lumens rating is wildly inaccurate like all projectors. I’ve never heard of a compact rgb/rgb bulb projector break 1,500 useful lumens even with rec709 let alone p3, which generally costs about 25-50% brightness. I think the p3 color mode will be a nice option to have on smallish screens in dark rooms. When using p3 an a large screen in ambient light it would be a big drawback if it can’t be disabled. I still think it’s going to be a great projector just not an hdr light cannon.
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