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post #151 of 4225 Old 11-23-2018, 03:16 PM
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I hope you're wrong on that one. The three main things that people complained about the 1st gen 4K 240hz shifters are: a) pond of mirrors / light border (fixed), b) low contrast ratio (fixed, at least when using a dynamic iris like on this one), and c) much higher input lag compared to 500$ 1080p DLPs



Input lag has always been one of DLP's strong suits, so it's a shame if they didn't improve it, at least a little. 33ms would be acceptable. There is no way I'm downgrading my projector in important aspects to get "4K".



Also, if this one does actually measure at 94% P3 coverage, with anything close to 2000 or even 1500 lumens, then it's a game changer as that will force all the others to follow suit for 2019 models. There will be no excuse, even for lamp-based projectors. If the P3 coverage is "always on" and they are claiming 2000 lumens, but that rating is for rec 709, then P3 should be even brighter. This is why I think the 2000 lumen rating is for P3. Or maybe it's for rec 709 and there is a separate filter that goes into the light path, like Cinema Filter, when it's needed. This solution would give higher rec 709 brightness (useful for 3D and HDR w/o WCG), but a 4K projector should go hand in hand with P3, I think. If you want the highest rec 709 lumens, just get a bright 1080p DLP and end it. Filters that get put mechanically into the light path cause problems, it makes the design more complicated, more stuff that can break and require servicing.



One thing's for sure, if the w2700 can do 94% P3 at 2000 lumens using a lamp, then a low of people on AVS are going to have to eat crow after saying P3 was impossible with decent lumens in a lamp projector. Actually, Cine4Home.de as well. But we'll see what it measures to. Including input lag. Knock on wood.

Actually when I bought my original BenQ HT2050 a couple years ago, while it was a top performer for DLP display lag at 33/34ms, it was far from the best in class. Both Sony and Epson had projectors in the 20s. I still went with the BenQ, however, as the better motion handling made up for the slight increase in latency (IMO).

But I agree and have high hopes for the HT3550.

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Praying the input lag is in the neighborhood of 30ms or less. I really want a shorter throw 4k and this checks all the boxes so far. My current PJ is a Benq 2150ST and I use Madvr on my HTPC to downscale and tone map HDR to SDR + game on PS4 Pro with supersampling on, etc. But if I could get a PJ that does everything natively I’d replace the 2150 in a heartbeat despite how nice it is.

Of course this would all be moot if Epson had just put a full bandwidth HDMI chipset in the 4000/4010/5040. WTH were they thinking?

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Praying the input lag is in the neighborhood of 30ms or less. I really want a shorter throw 4k and this checks all the boxes so far. My current PJ is a Benq 2150ST and I use Madvr on my HTPC to downscale and tone map HDR to SDR + game on PS4 Pro with supersampling on, etc. But if I could get a PJ that does everything natively I’d replace the 2150 in a heartbeat despite how nice it is.

Of course this would all be moot if Epson had just put a full bandwidth HDMI chipset in the 4000/4010/5040. WTH were they thinking?
Yeah.. I'm not sure why they decided to die on that particular hill. Optoma now sells a 1080p projector below $700 with HDMI 2.0 in the HD27HDR. You're telling me the Epson couldn't afford an HDMI 2.0 on the 4010 with it's pixel shifting and CFI and color filter and motorized lens? This really does feel like a massive missed opportunity.
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This projector doesnt support Dolby Vision?
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This projector doesnt support Dolby Vision?
No projector does
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Yes, that's correct, Christie does. But they are the only one and you're in six figure plus territory.

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The most important aspect of Dolby Vision over HDR10 and HlG is dynamic metadata which is not only useful on a projector, but even more important than it is on a TV. So I absolutely reject the notion that DV decoding is worthless on a projector due to the fact that they can't hit those super high nits ratings. Neither than commercial Dolby Vision cinemas, which are only doing 100 nits but have gads of native contrast and thus dynamic range. I can easily see a JVC with a bit more lumens handling DV just fine. And controlling the lamp dimming or dynamic iris explicitly from the metadata would prevent pumping artifacts on this DLP so it would surely be welcome here too.

HDR10+ is surely close enough to Dolby Vision that it's probably just fine to just convert between those formats upstream.

The dynamic metadata is the important thing, although that also can be deduced from the source material, to some degree. There's a whole thread about doing that kind of dynamic tone mapping on your PC using MadVR. And surely other electronics will be able to convert between them. Although licensing would likely preclude that, I'd be fine with an HDR10+ decoding capability and do my own DV-HDR10+ conversion on my PC via UHD Bluray Rips.
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I had the Epson 4000 e-shifter. Very similar to the 4050. Nice piece of kit especially with the lens shift and motorized zoom. Contrast was decent but I noticed the lack of sharpness. The ht2550 and tk800 were much sharper and the hdr implementation was an upgrade on the BenQas well. Contrast was marginally better on the Epson 4000.

I have a 160” screen so while I liked the ht2550, I felt like I want a bit more brightness. That is the main reason I use the TK800 in my setup. For the brightness... and it is still good at colors. I love it.

With your large screen I like a Tk800 now (good 3D) or if you can wait for the W2700/HT3550, go that route. For what the HT3550 will lack in brightness, I think it will be a performer in the contrast/color categories.

Here’s a quickly put together video I did of the tk800 https://youtu.be/iDAuSeOtFoU I need to do part 2 with my 7 months in impressions.
Thanks for your response, Scotty, and others as well.

Your response is very useful as you've got an apples to apples comparison with Epson 4000, which as you noted is similar to one of my main competing choices against BenQ, the Cinema Pro 4050.

Sharpness has been a bother for me through the entire life (8 years I think, as I bought mine in 2011), of my Epson 5010. So I'm definitely hoping for better sharpness. 3D was good, but not great, for that as well I'm hoping for an upgrade, as I have a decent 3D collection and my wife & I both enjoy good 3D movies like Avatar, Gravity & Prometheus.

I'm keeping my 1080p needs on the rear with this purchase, even though technically there will be more 1080p content playback, and keeping 4K HDR implementation on the forefront, as our 4K collection is building rapidly, and well, I had my Epson 5010 for about 8 years, so I don't replace projectors that often - I assume this purchase will carry on for some years as well. Which only means the 4K collection will grow stronger.

So primarily my basis would be:
- For 4K HDR, is Epson 4050 better or BenQ?
- For 3D, is Epson 4050 better or BenQ?

One thing I've pretty much decided is to wait for BenQ 2700/HT3550. So it's either going to be Epson 4050 or BenQ 3550. I won't go in for TK800 at this point since the new, and what it seems very likely better model is too near. I'll wait.

Your review of the Tk800 is very promising, and if HT3550 is to be better in any way, I think it's taking the edge on the Epson 4050 for my needs.

Still open to suggestions & info, as at this point I'm really backing off from an immediate purchase & waiting for the BenQ HT3550 to release.

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Thanks for your response, Scotty, and others as well.

Your response is very useful as you've got an apples to apples comparison with Epson 4000, which as you noted is similar to one of my main competing choices against BenQ, the Cinema Pro 4050.

Sharpness has been a bother for me through the entire life (8 years I think, as I bought mine in 2011), of my Epson 5010. So I'm definitely hoping for better sharpness. 3D was good, but not great, for that as well I'm hoping for an upgrade, as I have a decent 3D collection and my wife & I both enjoy good 3D movies like Avatar, Gravity & Prometheus.

I'm keeping my 1080p needs on the rear with this purchase, even though technically there will be more 1080p content playback, and keeping 4K HDR implementation on the forefront, as our 4K collection is building rapidly, and well, I had my Epson 5010 for about 8 years, so I don't replace projectors that often - I assume this purchase will carry on for some years as well. Which only means the 4K collection will grow stronger.

So primarily my basis would be:
- For 4K HDR, is Epson 4050 better or BenQ?
- For 3D, is Epson 4050 better or BenQ?

One thing I've pretty much decided is to wait for BenQ 2700/HT3550. So it's either going to be Epson 4050 or BenQ 3550. I won't go in for TK800 at this point since the new, and what it seems very likely better model is too near. I'll wait.

Your review of the Tk800 is very promising, and if HT3550 is to be better in any way, I think it's taking the edge on the Epson 4050 for my needs.

Still open to suggestions & info, as at this point I'm really backing off from an immediate purchase & waiting for the BenQ HT3550 to release.

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You've provided some great context here to help me with my recommendation.

The anxiety I would have about choosing the Epson as an 8-year/long term projector is that 1) it is a 1080x2 shifter (4.15M unique pixels, not 8.3M) and 2) It is handicapped with a 1.4a HDMI chipset so it cannot accept a 4k60HDR signal like the BenQ can. It would be like someone buying a 720p/1080i HDTV in 2006 with HDCP 1.0 that would have problems handshaking with all other HDMI peripherals within 2-3 years. I still don't understand why Epson went with that chipset ESPECIALLY on their updated 4010 unit.

Besides that, my subjective opinion on what you are basing your decision off of is that 1) BenQ TK800/HT2550 does 4K HDR better than the Epson 40xx and 2) BenQ does 3D better than Epson as a result of the DLP chip being virtually crosstalk-free. This isn't to say that the Epson 40xx is a bad unit. It's a great projector. It bests the 1st gen 4k BenQs on contrast/blacks by a bit and the color lumens are good on the Epson. But if you are basing your decision on 4k, HDR, and 3D, those are all areas that the 1st gen 4K BenQs best the Epson at. And I believe the HT3550 may widen that gap further.

The only thing I'm curious to see on the HT3550 is how much light it can put out. I think a lot of mass appeal that the W1070 and HT2050 had in the 1080p space was just how much light they could put out and still produce an image with great color and delta-E.

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Praying the input lag is in the neighborhood of 30ms or less. I really want a shorter throw 4k and this checks all the boxes so far. My current PJ is a Benq 2150ST and I use Madvr on my HTPC to downscale and tone map HDR to SDR + game on PS4 Pro with supersampling on, etc. But if I could get a PJ that does everything natively I’d replace the 2150 in a heartbeat despite how nice it is.

Of course this would all be moot if Epson had just put a full bandwidth HDMI chipset in the 4000/4010/5040. WTH were they thinking?
The HT2550/TK800 used 3 separate processing chips for 4K, 3D, and HDR. I know they are consolidating and modernizing the chip design to one or two SOCs for more powerful and speedy processing. This will help everything from input lag, power up/down, to 3D input switching. Assuming the P3 color is done mechanically via filter, I'm looking at the spec list and there are a couple of new image processes that may impact input lag. Namely, CFI (MEMC)and Dynamic Iris. These may require pre-buffered frames to predict behavior for the CFI and Iris to work optimally. Looking forward to testing this out.
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I have a TK800 and the 3D is perfect. 144hz and I use a dlp to RF converter so all my RF glasses work fine, zero sync or blink issues.
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I read in another thread that there is W1700 and W6700 on its way from Benq. Maybe @scottyroo or someone else here can confirm the specs of W6700 from their Benq contact.
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I'm hoping the w6700 is the home theater version of the BenQ LK952, 4x XPR laser.

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I think it will be lamp based. When you search for benq w6700 in google, results show a bulb used for W1700/TK800/w6700
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I think it will be lamp based. When you search for benq w6700 in google, results show a bulb used for W1700/TK800/w6700
I saw that as well. But how much can the w6700, if it's 4x XPR lamp based, improve over the w2700?

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I saw that as well. But how much can the w6700, if it's 4x XPR lamp based, improve over the w2700?



no idea. Maybe it's more zoom, .67"chip etc. don't have any info at the moment. HT8060/HT9060 are also higher end projector so it could be somewhere in between W2700 and HT8060.
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maybe the rgbwrgbw version I been waiting for?
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I was just about to purchase a UHD50 or HT2550/Tk800 before someone brought the HT3550 to my attention.

Hopefully it is a perfect replacement for my beloved W1070. I'm hoping my bulb lasts until the release of this.

Hurry up, Benq!

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I was just about to purchase a UHD50 or HT2550/Tk800 before someone brought the HT3550 to my attention.

Hopefully it is a perfect replacement for my beloved W1070. I'm hoping my bulb lasts until the release of this.

Hurry up, Benq!

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Zoom, throw, offset, lens shift are all identical to the 1070 so that area is taken care of!
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You've provided some great context here to help me with my recommendation.

The anxiety I would have about choosing the Epson as an 8-year/long term projector is that 1) it is a 1080x2 shifter (4.15M unique pixels, not 8.3M) and 2) It is handicapped with a 1.4a HDMI chipset so it cannot accept a 4k60HDR signal like the BenQ can. It would be like someone buying a 720p/1080i HDTV in 2006 with HDCP 1.0 that would have problems handshaking with all other HDMI peripherals within 2-3 years. I still don't understand why Epson went with that chipset ESPECIALLY on their updated 4010 unit.

Besides that, my subjective opinion on what you are basing your decision off of is that 1) BenQ TK800/HT2550 does 4K HDR better than the Epson 40xx and 2) BenQ does 3D better than Epson as a result of the DLP chip being virtually crosstalk-free. This isn't to say that the Epson 40xx is a bad unit. It's a great projector. It bests the 1st gen 4k BenQs on contrast/blacks by a bit and the color lumens are good on the Epson. But if you are basing your decision on 4k, HDR, and 3D, those are all areas that the 1st gen 4K BenQs best the Epson at. And I believe the HT3550 may widen that gap further.

The only thing I'm curious to see on the HT3550 is how much light it can put out. I think a lot of mass appeal that the W1070 and HT2050 had in the 1080p space was just how much light they could put out and still produce an image with great color and delta-E.
Thanks so much for all your insight & help, Scotty. Definitely waiting for BenQ HT3550 at this point. Hoping it's not too long of a wait, but I agree with all of your points. I was more than half sold on the 8.3M pixels argument I heard from Sage11x in a different thread, which had brought me over to TK800. All of the other pieces of information put together only solidify this direction.

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Thanks so much for all your insight & help, Scotty. Definitely waiting for BenQ HT3550 at this point. Hoping it's not too long of a wait, but I agree with all of your points. I was more than half sold on the 8.3M pixels argument I heard from Sage11x in a different thread, which had brought me over to TK800. All of the other pieces of information put together only solidify this direction.

Thanks again!
I've got the TK800 and can attest to the noticeable sharpness increase. And especially the limited bandwidth I'd really skip the Epson.
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More indication that the new .47” DMD seems to be the preferred chip for not just entry level 4K projectors but for mid to higher range models as well. Has anyone seen any new product announcements that will feature the .66”
DMD? Besides BenQ’s replacement for the HT9550– which may not even see a release stateside and will be priced close to the 5 figure mark— I haven’t seen anything announced.

It seems the quad shift is here to stay. I’m desperate to see this chip in action on the HT3550...

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5700 looks great. I wonder what the price is.
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5700 looks great. I wonder what the price is.
Looks similar to JVC DLP specs wise with the exception of P3 colour gamut and 3D. So price would be lower than JVC for sure. Dealers have high margins on jvc projectors so they are priced higher than other similar projectors. I'm thinking around $2000.

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Looks similar to JVC DLP specs wise with the exception of P3 colour gamut and 3D. So price would be lower than JVC for sure. Dealers have high margins on jvc projectors so they are priced higher than other similar projectors. I'm thinking around $2000.
Is this different than the 2700/HT3550?

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W5700 will have more placement flexibility and zoom.
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The W5700 looks very promising, I need some lens shift both horizontal and vertical.
Just hope the price in Europe won't exceed 2000 euro by much...

Also, the dreaded "light frame" will be gone on the next gen. 0.47 DLP chips, right?

Anybody know the USA model number for the W5700?
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