Originally Posted by MJ DOOM
IDK. I get what you're saying. But with all the hype, I'm disappointed in the numbers. The high input lag, they low lumen output, the barely better contrast with a iris. Its not gonna cut it for videogames and sports viewing imo. After the first 500 hours, I'm sure buyers are gonna be clamoring for more brightness, especially ones with bigger screens. DLPs need lasers to truly take that next step. With ViewSonic selling a 1080p laser for $1400 and BenQ selling one for $1500, it's time.
I think we will see more advancement in LED than we will in laser at this price range in years to come. It is hard to get really good color with laser and filters have to be engaged to produce an acceptable light source to work with. That is why you will see many laser projectors that claim high linen output in their brightest modes but when decent color measurements are done they are typically in the 1,500 to 2,000 lumen range. Nothing to sneeze at but LED has come a long way and has a way to go yet to make bright/affordable/efficient/long lasting projectors.
Re: Kraine’s review... We have discussed at length that Native contrast improved, but the real winner was the contrast that the Iris brought to the table. In Kraine’s production unit and my sample unit, no Iris pumping was noted and it still measured close to 3,000:1 contrast. I leave my Iris on at all times as it does not detract from the image at all. It feels native. And I’m not complaining that even with it off, the native contrast improved 43% compared to last years model. With the Iris on it improves by 300+% with no adverse artifacts on screen (on my unit at least).
To be fair, the target audience for this projector is for those with home theaters. Last year BenQ ran a campaign for their HT2550 and TK800, “4K or 4K?” HT2550 was for dark room home theaters. TK800 for sports and living rooms. It will be similar this year. I haven’t been shy about recommending people wait if they are competing against a ton of ambient light in their setups.
My bottom line on this projector was that:
- it isn’t the best gaming projector in the world
-does a respectable job handling SDR shedding last year’s entry level blacks and removal of light border.
-3D is good
-more than anything, this projector does the very best that I’ve personally seen with 4K HDR content.
-The iris and auto tone mapping create the brightest HDR image I’ve ever seen on a projector. WAAY brighter than an HDR image on the 3,000lm TK800M I am reviewing right now.
Kraine seems to echo that HDR sentiment and is why he gave it a gold star (sounds like when I was in 1st grade.... a gold star! Ha)
His input measurements were also 30ms greater than BenQ’s estimate and 15-20ms greater than
. I wonder if some setting was off.
If 4K HDR is your jam then you have some choices and there are tradeoffs with each choice. Epson 4000 are down to this price but the reason you get an Epson is because of blacks and that model not only lacks an 18gbps chip but is a 4M pixel projector and blacks are standard fare. For $300 more Epson 4010 is much more interesting image quality-wise and input lag is decent but loses marks for the 10gbps chip and being 4M pixel. None of last year’s .47” DLPs with the border deserve to be in this conversation. Epson 5040 is also interesting if you can find a refurb. Good picture quality, input lag, and blacks but power supply issues, 10gbps chip and 4M pixels.
.... so there are trade offs. The tradeoff with the HT3550 is 60ms I put lag. I’ve games with the HT3550 and it’s not the worst thing in the world FOR ME because I’m a casual gamer. And I think the brightness is plenty bright for my 160” screen. Kraine mentions that despite the measurements, he never felt the image was to dim.
This might not be the projector for EVERYONE but the ambient light situation and hardcore gamer aside, my opinion is I just don’t think $1,500 buys a better projector in today’s market.
By the way if you want Epson blacks/brightness with the same 18gbps that the HT2550 had last year, that’ll be $2,999 for the 5050UB. I bought one to test. Ouch. I will be doing a shootout with the 5050UB, HT3550, and HT5550 in the coming weeks so hopefully I will be able to provide more objective comparisons and data for you. I will also be investing more of my personal money and training into measuring equipment. I like to provide a real world take on thing for y’all but I think it helps to have data back that up.