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I am not commenting on the image quality. But just comparing them against each other.

Don't you agre the second one though it doesn't use the filter have more color in it? Is there a difference between brilliant color settings or anything else?


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Yes there's definitely a more colorful picture with the filter off.
I also prefer brilliant color off with the filter on, yet on with the filter off.
With filter engaged and brilliant color on, whites appear yellow ish.
With filter off and brilliant on they appear more white.
Hope that makes sense posting real quick at work.
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Yes there's definitely a more colorful picture with the filter off.
I also prefer brilliant color off with the filter on, yet on with the filter off.
With filter engaged and brilliant color on, whites appear yellow ish.
With filter off and brilliant on they appear more white.
Hope that makes sense posting real quick at work.


Ah yes. This makes prefect sense now. I have a 2550, so I know exactly what brilliant color does.

One of my favorite settings on 2550 is vivid mode with brilliant color. It is probably not very accurate but I love the image this way.


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Crap!! I'm glad I checked this.

I'm not a ceiling mount person; not about to go up there and start doing the holes & stuff, and I have a slanted/tilted ceiling. Either way, I need a shelf-mount solution like the one I have.

I think I need to look at other offerings. Either JVC X790r or wait & see if Epson brings the TW9400 here.

Thanks.
OK, having said that, there is another way... but it will depend on your screen height and location.

You can increase the height of your shelf unit, by adding another shelf (say an 18in high bookcase or similar) and then hang the HT3550 inverted under the top shelf via a ceiling mount.


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As an aside, when I do ceiling mounts on drywalled ceilings, I start by finding the joists with a stud finder, then I attach a piece of 1/2in, or thicker, pine shelving (or plywood) across the joists and then hang my ceiling mount from that via 1/2in wood screws. This is allows for flexible placement of the ceiling mount and creates the fewest actual holes in the drywall. The pine shelving or plywood strip can be painted to match the ceiling.

The ceiling mount will tilt and swivel to level the PJ regardless of ceiling slope.
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Need a recommendation for a ceiling mount. My Epson I replaced was 15' from screen and sitting on top of an equipment rack. Obviously, that's not going to work with the 3550.
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Benqdirect has the projector available to order with a stated 4/12 ship date.
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Hm... when you say HDR and 3D off are you referring to a specific setting? The Bodnar outputs regular old 1080p SDR and it doesn't output 3D.
Yeah the signal never changed but when I turned those settings from 'Auto' to 'Off' and tested again, input lag dropped by 3-4ms. I can't explain why. Maybe turning them off allows signal to bypass a signal sensor?

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Yeah the signal never changed but when I turned those settings from 'Auto' to 'Off' and tested again, input lag dropped by 3-4ms. I can't explain why. Maybe turning them off allows signal to bypass a signal sensor?


Oh wow! Alright I’ll try this and get back with you. I pride myself on rooting out extraneous processing but I didn’t even consider those. Good find. I’ll see if it makes a difference.

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Streaming, fire tv 4k on netflix hdr.

Mostly use fire tv or Desktop .

But yeah it looks awesome.
tweaking the settings abit like i was told does make it look better , "for me"
But the fan noise @!#[email protected][email protected] , I should probably build a box around the projector.
So how bad is the fan noise compared to the W1070? This is what I'll be replacing and sits right above our heads. Ready to pull the trigger on ordering, but now another variable to consider. Thanks!
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So how bad is the fan noise compared to the W1070? This is what I'll be replacing and sits right above our heads. Ready to pull the trigger on ordering, but now another variable to consider. Thanks!
Some people don't like it. I think its better than last year's HT2550 and TK800. I think the truth is that the fan noise is par for the course for this size of projector. My unit produces a very constant 'whoooooosh' and no weird anomalies in the sound profile. FWIW mine is about 5 feet above my head and I do not notice it at all with content playing. For context I also play my audio quite loud in my setup ... so the fan noise kinda melts away.

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Some people don't like it. I think its better than last year's HT2550 and TK800. I think the truth is that the fan noise is par for the course for this size of projector. My unit produces a very constant 'whoooooosh' and no weird anomalies in the sound profile. FWIW mine is about 5 feet above my head and I do not notice it at all with content playing. For context I also play my audio quite loud in my setup ... so the fan noise kinda melts away.

Thanks for the fast response! Your projector placement is pretty much identical to mine. Same thing with my W1070, the fan noise is definitely there, but I don't notice it once I have content playing. I can deal with it for sure on the HT3550 as long as it's not too much louder than my current projector. I think I read every thread on this post, have been so excited for this upgrade as I need to stay within a certain budget. W1070 has been amazing and still puts out a nice picture, but I'm itching for that extra little something now for my Netflix 4K content, Xbox One X, and will need to start shopping for UHD Blu-Rays. Appreciate all your feedback throughout and the excellent level of detail in reviews!
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Benqdirect has the projector available to order with a stated 4/12 ship date.
Thanks for the heads up! I ordered through Amazon in February and my date keeps slipping to the right... Now claiming it will arrive May 22nd? So I just placed and order with BenQ Direct and will just cancel whoever ships last I suppose. Really looking forward to trying this beast out as it'll be the first 4K display in our house. I spent a few hours last weekend ransacking my Blu-Ray collection for all the digital copy codes I never redeemed. Amazingly, I was able to get a little over a hundred movies into my iTunes library. Luckily, about 30 or so of these I was able to import directly and got the free 4K/HDR/Atmos upgrades from Apple, with the rest just being HD through Movies Anywhere. Come on BenQ, let's get that thing in the mail lol..

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Some people don't like it. I think its better than last year's HT2550 and TK800. I think the truth is that the fan noise is par for the course for this size of projector. My unit produces a very constant 'whoooooosh' and no weird anomalies in the sound profile. FWIW mine is about 5 feet above my head and I do not notice it at all with content playing. For context I also play my audio quite loud in my setup ... so the fan noise kinda melts away.
How does the HT5550 compare noise wise?

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I just cancelled my Amazon orders as I am tired of their pricing issue and unclear shipping dates. I ordered with BenQDirect with April 12th ship date with priority overnight.
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You can calculate all of this yourself using the excellent BenQ projector calculator: http://projectorcalculator.benq.com/

Thank you so much!
I used the tool to check the setup for my room.
My room is 3.5m Long. I plan to have a drop down screen in front of my oled tv. So I need around 20cm clearance from the front wall. Means I’m left with 3.3m.

Looking at the dimension of W5700, it seems like it is not an option for me. Min projection distance is more than 3m.


My table at my rear wall is around 1.12m tall. But I’m hoping to have the screen 1m from the ground. Which as you guys have highlighted the limited vertical shift on the W2700 won’t allow me to do so as well.


I have waited very very long for such a short throw 4k projector that is within my Budget. Even purchased the Long hdmi cable and 3D glasses in preparation for the arrival of the W2700. Haha.

Just thinking is it possible for me to tilt the w2700 a bit down?



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Thank you so much!
I used the tool to check the setup for my room.
My room is 3.5m Long. I plan to have a drop down screen in front of my oled tv. So I need around 20cm clearance from the front wall. Means I’m left with 3.3m.

Looking at the dimension of W5700, it seems like it is not an option for me. Min projection distance is more than 3m.


My table at my rear wall is around 1.12m tall. But I’m hoping to have the screen 1m from the ground. Which as you guys have highlighted the limited vertical shift on the W2700 won’t allow me to do so as well.


I have waited very very long for such a short throw 4k projector that is within my Budget. Even purchased the Long hdmi cable and 3D glasses in preparation for the arrival of the W2700. Haha.

Just thinking is it possible for me to tilt the w2700 a bit down?



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You'd have to use keystone correction which will degrade your picture I'd imagine. Can't you put some sort of riser or smaller shelf setup on the table to elevate the projector more?

Or didn't someone mention using rubber feet and flipping the projector onto its top?

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How does the HT5550 compare noise wise?


The HT5550 is a bit quieter. Noise profile is even deeper and more inaudible that’s the HT3550. However the iris actuation is a bit more audible on the HT5550.

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I just cancelled my Amazon orders as I am tired of their pricing issue and unclear shipping dates. I ordered with BenQDirect with April 12th ship date with priority overnight.
I did the same. And no tax with BenQ so saving about $90.
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I did the same. And no tax with BenQ so saving about $90.
I ordered too but got tax on it. How did you not pay tax on it?
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Mine that I ordered from projection people last Thursday is to be delivered tomorrow!

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So how bad is the fan noise compared to the W1070? This is what I'll be replacing and sits right above our heads. Ready to pull the trigger on ordering, but now another variable to consider. Thanks!
Its not bad when the fan doesn't speed up , but when it does -_- yeah . Like i said its 3ft from me, some random video i uploaded . That buzz sound you can't really hear it, but the fan yes .I'm trying to give it a chance because i do love the colors/hdr, but summer is almost here .
I wish there were more options .
But if i do go for uhd60/4010/5040/acer v7850/h7850. I would probably only get around 96".
I can get 100" with those projector but i would have to move my room around yeah NTY.
Would of loved to build a hush box but ain't nobody got time for that .

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Thanks for the fast response! Your projector placement is pretty much identical to mine. Same thing with my W1070, the fan noise is definitely there, but I don't notice it once I have content playing. I can deal with it for sure on the HT3550 as long as it's not too much louder than my current projector. I think I read every thread on this post, have been so excited for this upgrade as I need to stay within a certain budget. W1070 has been amazing and still puts out a nice picture, but I'm itching for that extra little something now for my Netflix 4K content, Xbox One X, and will need to start shopping for UHD Blu-Rays. Appreciate all your feedback throughout and the excellent level of detail in reviews!
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Some people don't like it. I think its better than last year's HT2550 and TK800. I think the truth is that the fan noise is par for the course for this size of projector. My unit produces a very constant 'whoooooosh' and no weird anomalies in the sound profile. FWIW mine is about 5 feet above my head and I do not notice it at all with content playing. For context I also play my audio quite loud in my setup ... so the fan noise kinda melts away.
My placement is similar. Fan noise on the HT2050 was not noticiable when the speakers were loud. Listening at low volumes was a little tough.

I’m thinking I might actually build a hush box this time. Anyone have some links to decent designs?

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Guardians of the Galaxy 2 looking pretty sweet! Actually liking brilliant color on now lol

What are your thoughts about black levels and contrast? I read on the internet that DLPs have "abysmal" black levels. I'm hoping the black levels are at least the equal and hopefully better than my Epson 8350. I would love to see a good pic that realistically displays the letterbox bars on a 2:35/1 movie.

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What are your thoughts about black levels and contrast? I read on the internet that DLPs have "abysmal" black levels. I'm hoping the black levels are at least the equal and hopefully better than my Epson 8350. I would love to see a good pic that realistically displays the letterbox bars on a 2:35/1 movie.

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What are your thoughts about black levels and contrast? I read on the internet that DLPs have "abysmal" black levels. I'm hoping the black levels are at least the equal and hopefully better than my Epson 8350. I would love to see a good pic that realistically displays the letterbox bars on a 2:35/1 movie.


I’ll take it as Sage and Scott have answered this and have made comments around contrast vs brightness differences, about every 10 posts or so, here and in Epson threads. Here’s a snippet from another thread.

“DLP has a lot of strengths but as you go up in price, contrast/blacks aren’t one of them. Personally, I tend to prefer DLP because I like the sharp image and high motion handling. The Ht5550 and UH1 are right in that range where ultra high contrast projectors (5040ub, 6040ub and the new 5050ub) start to become available. Those Epsons will have superior contrast blacks but at the expense of not being as sharp or nearly as crisp when it comes to motion. Still, contrast is an important aspect of picture quality and I’ll be interested to see how Scott’s comparison goes.”


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I’ll take it as Sage and Scott have answered this and have made comments around contrast vs brightness differences, about every 10 posts or so, here and in Epson threads. Here’s a snippet from another thread.

“DLP has a lot of strengths but as you go up in price, contrast/blacks aren’t one of them. Personally, I tend to prefer DLP because I like the sharp image and high motion handling. The Ht5550 and UH1 are right in that range where ultra high contrast projectors (5040ub, 6040ub and the new 5050ub) start to become available. Those Epsons will have superior contrast blacks but at the expense of not being as sharp or nearly as crisp when it comes to motion. Still, contrast is an important aspect of picture quality and I’ll be interested to see how Scott’s comparison goes.”


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Put in order with benqdirect last night. What mounts do people recommend? This will be my first time mounting a projector to a ceiling so looking for something easy to use.

Thinking about going with this mount: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...YFTRLN23&psc=1
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