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comparing the Epson 6040 to the 4050

I am not the most knowledgeable person here by a long shot. So I need some help on these two projectors. From what I am seeing, the only difference is contrast performance and one of them (4050) is cheaper.


Am I missing something. The 4050 seems like the better deal.....but if I am wrong please let me know.


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It's a little more complicated than that. The 4050 is the newest generation model in the 4000 series and the 6040UB is the older generation model in the 6000 series that should soon be replaced by the 6050UB. So changes have been made in upgrading the older 4040 to the 4050 that will also be made in upgrading the 6040UB to the 6050UB. We can't know how this will affect overall performance until independent comparison testing has been done. Projectorcentral.com is in process of comparing a new 4050 to an older 5040UB, which has the same performance as the 6040UB, and that will give us at least some data to go on until the new generation 5050UB/6050UB is available.

The 6000 (and 5000) series feature Epson's Ultra Black panels that the 4000 series lacks, so they do produce blacker blacks. In addition the 6000/5000 series add a manual lens iris along with the dynamic iris while the 4000 series only has the dynamic iris. Otherwise specs and performance are comparable between the same generation 4000, 5000 and 6000 series models.
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Thanks for that response. But now my head hurts. LOL.


So now I am thinking that if I take price out of the equasion, the 6040 is probably the better way to go (due mainly to the ultra black panels)


or wait and see what the 6050 offers, but im kind of ready to get something right now. My Panasonic AE8000 has been great but im over due for an upgrade.
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Another thing you need to consider is that you are paying extra money for a 4050 over a 4010 (or a 6040UB over a 5040UB) for a spare lamp, a mount and a longer warranty. Some think it's worth it and some don't. I would suggest spending some extra time on the Epson website studying exactly what's included with each model. Pro Cinema models like the 4050 and 6040UB are sold through professional installer channels and have the extra parts and longer warranty. Home Cinema models like the 4010 and 5040UB are sold through retail channels, lack the extra parts and longer warranty and cost less but have the same performance as their Pro Cinema counterparts. There's nothing wrong with either choice as long as you pick the one that best fits your budget and needs.
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@Dave in Green pretty Well summed it up on differences between 4010/4050 vs 5040/6040 . Also just so u know the epson 4050 is just a epson 4010 that comes with a projector mount extra bulb and extra year of warranty. Same thing as the 6040 is just a epson 5040 with extra bulb ,warranty, and comes with mount. The one ypu will prefer if only looking at tgose 2 models Depends on a lot of things . What is your room like? size,throw distance, is it totally dark and light controlled or is there ambient light and also want use during day ? You should look in the epson 4010 thread and see projector central robs comments especially since he was starting to do a comparison for his website to publish after he just posted his review of the epson 4010 (same as 4050) like Dave in green said. I'm sure if you sent him( rob from projector central) a message he might be able to answer some your questions about how those 2 models are alike or different . What do you plan on using it for movies games tv all above.. what is your budget? I'd probably pick the 5040 if I wanted a better black level but then again for that money I'd pick a jvc x590 over the epson but that's me.
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I had a 4010 for a week before I sent it back since I wanted mainly better black level since my room is totally blacked out no light. It. It Did have sharp picture and beautiful colors very bright though.. I seen a 5040 but long time ago and had a sony hw45es .now have a jvc x590 (same thing as a jvc rs440) I like the jvc best it is plenty bright on my 106 inch screen and black levels way enter than sony or epson. Plus it's very good zoom and lens shift and has lens memory like both the epsons.
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I understand the differences between the "home" and "pro" series projectors. And honestly my main reason for the "pro" version is its black. I like that better than a bright white projector in a dark room. The spare lamp is cool. I already have a chief mount on my Panny and im pretty sure it will transfer to the epson.


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My room is a completely light controled, dedicated home theater room. I have a 128 inch 2.35:1 screen. throw distance is 16 feet. mainly movie watching but some occasional gaming.


I will check out the JVC as well.

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@maybelooking1 , it sounds as if your setup could benefit from a projector with better black levels, where the 6000UB series has a clear performance advantage. However, rather than going for the 6040UB right now I think it would be worthwhile waiting for the 6050UB to see how much improvement it might have. Since the European version of the 6050UB is being introduced sooner as the EH-TW9400 we won't even have to wait for the 6050UB to see how it will perform. European reviewers should be reporting on EH-TW9400 performance within weeks.

If you really value the best black levels JVC is the acknowledged industry leader. While JVC MSRP for all models is >$3,000 it's sometimes possible to find JVCs for <$3,000, so well worth researching. On the other hand if you're OK with greyish blacks then you might be perfectly satisfied with the Epson 4050. It's hard for anyone else to predict which of these options you might prefer since there is such wide variation in personal sensitivity to black level performance.
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I would say the 4050 should out preform your old panny in almost every level but won't be much better in black levels. I would defiantly look at JVC's (they are all black by the way) as they are built like tanks with the only real flaw is replacement lamp cost.

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Thanks guys.


I am strongly considering the JVC RS540. I didnt want to spend that much money but I have been reading up on them for a while and the comments in this thread are pretty much reinforcing what I already knew.


You only live once....whats another 2k!!! haha.


I will make a definite decision this week.
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