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Well I am not sure but doesn't hdmi 2.1 mean hdcp 2.2 compatibility automatically?
Not necessarily, HDCP is a layer on top of HDMI and it's up to the manufacturer to implement it. There are HDMI 2.0 equipped projectors that don't have HDCP 2.2 either (looking at you Chinese manufacturers).

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@oni222 , looking at the product page, the HDMI 2.1 is no longer listed on the images of the projector! I'd wait until we get further clarification as it could have been a marketing mistake.

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There's a few hands on in China from the Xiaomi website. Use Google translate, so far it seems pretty good from the non-technical reviews.

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Not necessarily, HDCP is a layer on top of HDMI and it's up to the manufacturer to implement it. There are HDMI 2.0 equipped projectors that don't have HDCP 2.2 either (looking at you Chinese manufacturers).



@oni222 , looking at the product page, the HDMI 2.1 is no longer listed on the images of the projector! I'd wait until we get further clarification as it could have been a marketing mistake.
Maybe one of those images are not loading properly because I just checked and I saw the HDMi 2.1 pic.

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Maybe one of those images are not loading properly because I just checked and I saw the HDMi 2.1 pic.
Just checked again, this is straight from Xiaomi website. What site are you checking?



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Wasn't aware there were ANY HDMI 2.1 capable devices on the consumer market at all yet. It's basically unheard of. HDMI 2.0 with 18Gb/s capacity is plenty with all our fake 4K projectors that we are looking at right now. Looking, because we can't buy it since it's not sold outside of China to anyone. Lots of expectations for something we can't get. Of course, if we do get it, you better know Chinese.
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Wasn't aware there were ANY HDMI 2.1 capable devices on the consumer market at all yet. It's basically unheard of. HDMI 2.0 with 18Gb/s capacity is plenty with all our fake 4K projectors that we are looking at right now. Looking, because we can't buy it since it's not sold outside of China to anyone. Lots of expectations for something we can't get. Of course, if we do get it, you better know Chinese.
I was thinking the same and I had noted that the 2.1 ports in the original pics were probably a marketing error.

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Wasn't aware there were ANY HDMI 2.1 capable devices on the consumer market at all yet. It's basically unheard of. HDMI 2.0 with 18Gb/s capacity is plenty with all our fake 4K projectors that we are looking at right now. Looking, because we can't buy it since it's not sold outside of China to anyone. Lots of expectations for something we can't get. Of course, if we do get it, you better know Chinese.
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I was thinking the same and I had noted that the 2.1 ports in the original pics were probably a marketing error.

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All the TV's shown in CES by LG, Sony, Samsung are HDMI 2.1 and the true benefits of HDMI 2.1 is not the extra bandwidth but the Variable Sync it offers. Just like Gsync and Freesync2.0 did with computers.

Since the TV's are now HDMI 2.1 I don't see a reason why new projectors cannot do the same.
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All the TV's shown in CES by LG, Sony, Samsung are HDMI 2.1 and the true benefits of HDMI 2.1 is not the extra bandwidth but the Variable Sync it offers. Just like Gsync and Freesync2.0 did with computers.



Since the TV's are now HDMI 2.1 I don't see a reason why new projectors cannot do the same.
The point being made was 'on the street', this projector is on the streets already the other announced devices won't hit the streets for months... guess it's just really SURPRISING IF IT'S TRUE.

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Can't wait to we have a review of this projector. The specs are impressive but doesn't seem as concrete. $1500-2200 is very impressive for a ust 4k projector. HDMI 2.1 is another plus. Can't wait for this projector to get in a reliable reviewer hands. Or mines 😁
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By the way you guys should check out the comments section. A ton of people have been posting pics (low res) but auto translate does a decent job.

https://m.mi.com/comment/list/2190200022

EDIT: according to the comments it looks like 8 point keystone is indeed removed. You can still use 4 point.

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Honestly since we are talking about HDMI 2.1 I would bet money that it works with HDCP 2.2.
HDCP is merely the copy protection protocol. So far, I'm not seeing any update to that. Everything in HDMI 2.++ right now will be HDCP 2.2.
Otherwise, we'd all have to run out and get new equipment to decode the HDCP 2.2. The new Benq 2700 is HDMI 2.0a/HDCP2.2. Pity Benq didn't go
the HDMI 2.1 for the 48gbs transfer rate and other options that are available with it.



Probably the w2700 was past the design stage for that and will be in the next batch of new projectors. So, I'll still wait until everything settles down before thing about upgrading my w1070.

Everything about HDMI 2.1 and cables as well (starts at 6:46 for the cable talk)
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HDCP is merely the copy protection protocol. So far, I'm not seeing any update to that. Everything in HDMI 2.++ right now will be HDCP 2.2.
Otherwise, we'd all have to run out and get new equipment to decode the HDCP 2.2. The new Benq 2700 is HDMI 2.0a/HDCP2.2. Pity Benq didn't go
the HDMI 2.1 for the 48gbs transfer rate and other options that are available with it.



Probably the w2700 was past the design stage for that and will be in the next batch of new projectors. So, I'll still wait until everything settles down before thing about upgrading my w1070.

Everything about HDMI 2.1 and cables as well (starts at 6:46 for the cable talk)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_anlVEdCYr8

I agree with your assessment.
Hopefully we will find all new UST laser projectors with HDMI 2.1 but until we get some reviews come in we are SOL.

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Any reliable info about input-lag of this projector? I remember translated some obscure Chinese comments that is not suitable for gaming because of high input lag but couldn't verify it nor exactly which page I read it on.

I'm debating between this and the new BenQ 2700, I suppose both have the same updated 0.47 DMD chip.
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I agree with your assessment.
Hopefully we will find all new UST laser projectors with HDMI 2.1 but until we get some reviews come in we are SOL.
Everyone wishing for HDMI 2.1 on this pj is silly as the spec doesn't guarantee any level of compliance with respect to which parts of the spec are adhered to. Everything we need for 4K UHD with dynamic HDR is already available through HDMI 2.0 (except over the 120hz refresh rate and computer gaming)...2.1 is going to be geared toward 8K and DLPs can't actually do native 4K yet...long ways to go before we "need" 2.1. I understand if your a spec chaser just for the sake of future proofing...but its unnecessary unless you're a computer gamer.

I'm just excited that 4K laser USTs are getting down into everyman territory...I've been patiently enjoying my PX800HD but am getting ready for an upgrade...I want a laser with dynamic dimming to help contrast and would like 2K Ansi Lumens for sufficiently lighting up an ALR screen.
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Everyone wishing for HDMI 2.1 on this pj is silly as the spec doesn't guarantee any level of compliance with respect to which parts of the spec are adhered to. Everything we need for 4K UHD with dynamic HDR is already available through HDMI 2.0 (except over the 120hz refresh rate and computer gaming)...2.1 is going to be geared toward 8K and DLPs can't actually do native 4K yet...long ways to go before we "need" 2.1. I understand if your a spec chaser just for the sake of future proofing...but its unnecessary unless you're a computer gamer.

I'm just excited that 4K laser USTs are getting down into everyman territory...I've been patiently enjoying my PX800HD but am getting ready for an upgrade...I want a laser with dynamic dimming to help contrast and would like 2K Ansi Lumens for sufficiently lighting up an ALR screen.
As a gamer who loves his G-Sync on the pc side, HDMI 2.1 is the holy grail. Variable sync (HDMI 2.1 feature) that it offers is equivalent to Freesync 2 and G-Sync.
Since all new TV's have HDMI 2.1 then there is NO reason that new Projectors should not also have that.

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Anyone find an update on this for a US buy? I missed the preorder pricing, but looks like it never happened anyways. lol
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Anyone find an update on this for a US buy? I missed the preorder pricing, but looks like it never happened anyways. lol
I would suspect that Walmart will pick this up to replace or supplement the non-4k version that they sell. Just go to Walmart.com and type Xaomi in the search bar.

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I would suspect that Walmart will pick this up to replace or supplement the non-4k version that they sell. Just go to Walmart.com and type Xaomi in the search bar.
Maybe soon, but not the case today. They're still selling the white one.
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There is still no video on youtube regarding this projector. And its been a month since it began selling in china. Dont know when will there be a global release.

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There is still no video on youtube regarding this projector. And its been a month since it began selling in china. Dont know when will there be a global release.

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I know the feeling. I would be more than happy to buy one if I could get verification from a reviewer that this puppy is HDMI 2.1 or at least HDMI 2.0 with variable sync enabled.

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According to the comment on the youtube video extract it seems that it can handle HDMI 2.0 in 444 color profile (Nvidia shield) at least very well...
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I ask the CS in taobao if it was hdmi2.1 or 2.0 & his answer, is there any difference? I directly told him that he does not know the answer


then showed him this
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I don't know for hdmi 2.1 but there is an option to activate hdmi 2.0 on the projector menu.
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Has anyone ordered one yet? The website selling them says native resolution 1920x1080?? Not sure if this is a typo
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1920x1080 XPR 4 or your looking at the 1080p version
there are two identical versions of this.
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Hi guys.
One friend will come back from China next week, and he can buy for me the new Xiaomi MJJGTYDS01FM 4K version.
For you, it would be possible to switch language from Chinese to English?
I hope that Xiaomi put both Chinese and English language in their China market projector.
Do you have any idea?
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