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May well turn out to be, but hoping Optoma does a better job than Xiaomi/Vava/etc. At least proper 23.976/24 & decent out-of-the-box cinema mode across 3D/2D/4K HDR.

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You can start directly into selected hdmi port, so you not see the menu
excellent, thank you very much! i don't intend to use any of pj's apps given i will run my sources (including sources with apps) through my lumagen, if i used the pj apps it would take the lumagen out of the equation, so i don't need to see the pj apps or the home screen.

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Unfortunately, it's not that easy to root this bad boy. Requires breakout HDMI cable and pin access on the mainboard. It's not for the faint of heart though anyone who has built their own PC over the past ten or twenty years should be able to do it without too much trouble.
read the xda thread last night and from what i could tell rooting the 4k xiaomi shouldn't be much trouble if you've rooted devices before and you follow the instructions... seems that more than a few rooters have enjoyed with complete success, and it seems that the thread is active with a lot of help being provided in the event you run into a snag.

i'm wondering if the xiaomi's locked in 60fps can be unlocked with a root?
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May well turn out to be, but hoping Optoma does a better job than Xiaomi/Vava/etc. At least proper 23.976/24 & decent out-of-the-box cinema mode across 3D/2D/4K HDR.
If it does, then its an instant buy for me to be honest. Not expecting any miracles on input lag as the tech is the limiting factor here, if they could sort HDR, motion and colour out, that would be awesome. In terms of design though, the Optoma is lagging behind vs. the Xiaomi, though.
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May well turn out to be, but hoping Optoma does a better job than Xiaomi/Vava/etc. At least proper 23.976/24 & decent out-of-the-box cinema mode across 3D/2D/4K HDR.
all we can do is hope! btw, thanks a ton for sharing all of the firsthand experience you've had with this unit, it's been incredibly helpful and very much appreciated!

fwiw, i didn't come across the 60fps thing until after i placed my order, still trying to wrap my head around that one, i mean why on earth did they do this, it wasn't the case with the two others i had.
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May well turn out to be, but hoping Optoma does a better job than Xiaomi/Vava/etc. At least proper 23.976/24 & decent out-of-the-box cinema mode across 3D/2D/4K HDR.
Thanks for all the detail, Brajesh! I'm curious if you would have made the same choice if you were starting fresh without a room set up for a standard projector? I'm finding myself in that boat, where I'm moving to a new house. I have a fixed screen but I sold my old ceiling mounted projector with the house. The UST's would make things a lot easier when it comes to setup at my new place.

Thanks again!
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@aeneas01 , with your player upconverting to 4K, source 1080p & 4K 23.976/24 content almost look good enough @ 60fps on Xiaomi. But, after Vincent's review, when I looked at motion bars & sampled movies with pans, I could see some judder. This is mostly absent with my Optoma UHD51A.

@dfenser , think so about making the same decision. With the Optoma P1 hopefully only weeks away (or no later than August to still qualify as InfoComm stated "summer" release), it's worth waiting I think.

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has anyone received vincent's promised calibration settings? went through his steps when i purchased my xiaomi 4k and nothing, in fact his website doesn't even have a contact method as far as i can tell, ended up posting to his review vid asking him how i'm supposed to receive it, nothing....
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Hello everyone, new owner of a Xiaomi 4k, I have a problem, I have a greyish lit area all around the screen displayed, it is not seen with a clear image, but with a dark image, it's very visible, it's 5cm wide on the four sides. In addition, I have a white pixel line at the bottom of the image (see photo) when the image or film is in 16/9, fortunately it no longer appears on 21/9 movies, one from you to that? It's settled? Thank you





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Having a lot of trouble perfectly filling my 120" screen (ALR Pet from XY screen) with the projector. The image from the manual (41cm heigh 34cm distance) is dead wrong for 120" and I find Keystone to not help me at all since the projection is already squared.

I consume almost exclusively 4k content and I think you guys are a bit harsh on the projector. I think it's fantastic compared to the ones I compared it too (same price-range). I do not use 3D though (yet).
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wow, very helpful, thank you very much.... have a couple of questions: a) is the user able to change the splash screen and b) is there way to bypass the home menu when the pj boots, i.e. remain on the splash screen or boot to a blank screen? thanks again!
If whatever you have plugged into your HDMI input is turned on then it will go straight into that input.
For example I have my Apple TV connected using CEC so as soon as I press a button on my Apple TV remote it turns on the projector and it boots up into that input.

I hope that answers your question.

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has anyone received vincent's promised calibration settings? went through his steps when i purchased my xiaomi 4k and nothing, in fact his website doesn't even have a contact method as far as i can tell, ended up posting to his review vid asking him how i'm supposed to receive it, nothing....
I ordered my previous Xiaomi through Vincent and he never gave it to me. He said he could not see my order through his portal so he basically called me a fraud.
I even sent him a screenshot of my order and he stopped responding to my emails.

So this time round I did not use his link but if you happen to get the calibration please share it with me.

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If the manuel is wrong about 41cm heigh and 34cm distance, so what is the right values for you to fit 120" screen.?
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has anyone received vincent's promised calibration settings? went through his steps when i purchased my xiaomi 4k and nothing, in fact his website doesn't even have a contact method as far as i can tell, ended up posting to his review vid asking him how i'm supposed to receive it, nothing....
He emailed me and said to let him know when the unit arrives and he will provide the settings. The email address is in the contact info for his YouTube videos.
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Xiaomi MIJIA Laser Projector 4K version with 4K resolution launched.

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How does the XY screen look?




How long did it take to arrive?




Is there much light in your room?
>> It looks great compared to my textured white wall. The assembly took me some time because the instruction was not intuitive to me (even with the Youtube videos). At the end though, everything fits perfectly well.

>> took 10 days for it to be delivered to Seattle. Note that it tools a few days for them to build my custom 110” frame ... potentially quicker for the standard 100 and 120. Actually ship time we’re about 7 days due to some delay from Fedex ... it could probably have arrived in 7 days if I was lucky.

>> I use it in a basement with no windows, however there is a bright LED on the ceiling that’s about 2 ft from the screen and it looks fine and totally watchable when it’s on. I’ve been using it with that light on most of the time for casual shows.
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>> It looks great compared to my textured white wall. The assembly took me some time because the instruction was not intuitive to me (even with the Youtube videos). At the end though, everything fits perfectly well.

>> took 10 days for it to be delivered to Seattle. Note that it tools a few days for them to build my custom 110” frame ... potentially quicker for the standard 100 and 120. Actually ship time we’re about 7 days due to some delay from Fedex ... it could probably have arrived in 7 days if I was lucky.

>> I use it in a basement with no windows, however there is a bright LED on the ceiling that’s about 2 ft from the screen and it looks fine and totally watchable when it’s on. I’ve been using it with that light on most of the time for casual shows.
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He emailed me and said to let him know when the unit arrives and he will provide the settings. The email address is in the contact info for his YouTube videos.
Please share it with me! I could use it and besides the guy owes me one

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Please share it with me! I could use it and besides the guy owes me one
I would also like to know the settings...
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Just ordered last week so it may be a while before I receive it.
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He emailed me and said to let him know when the unit arrives and he will provide the settings. The email address is in the contact info for his YouTube videos.
thanks very much for this, very helpful, couldn't seem to find it anywhere, just sent him an email...
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Hello everyone, new owner of a Xiaomi 4k, I have a problem, I have a greyish lit area all around the screen displayed, it is not seen with a clear image, but with a dark image, it's very visible, it's 5cm wide on the four sides. In addition, I have a white pixel line at the bottom of the image (see photo) when the image or film is in 16/9, fortunately it no longer appears on 21/9 movies, one from you to that? It's settled? Thank you

[img]https://image.noelshack.com/minis/2019/24/7/1560715158-img-20190616-213011.png[/img]

[img]https://image.noelshack.com/minis/2019/25/1/1560746405-img-20190617-063900.png[/img]

[img]https://image.noelshack.com/minis/2019/25/1/1560746461-img-20190617-064033.png[/img]
The 5cm wide area shld be the black light border. Mine has it too. But u get used to it pretty quickly.

The bottom lighted line, I have it too.
This was my second set as the first set has a blur spot at the top left corner, I didnt notice the bottom lighted line in my first set. But after exchanged, my second set has the bottom lighted line.

U will see this line when u uses external source for video, only can be seen in dark scene and dark room viewing.
So xiaomi distributor claim its "not" their projector fault and no more exchange.


One trick is to have the line aligned with the bottom black border of the projector screen, it shld not be visible anymore.

Anyone has the same bottom lighted line?
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Hello everyone, new owner of a Xiaomi 4k, I have a problem, I have a greyish lit area all around the screen displayed, it is not seen with a clear image, but with a dark image, it's very visible, it's 5cm wide on the four sides. In addition, I have a white pixel line at the bottom of the image (see photo) when the image or film is in 16/9, fortunately it no longer appears on 21/9 movies, one from you to that? It's settled? Thank you





That's brutal. I thought this DLP chip had dropped the grey border? That line of white pixels is unacceptable. Send It back and get a refund.
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Ok I don't know much about ALR so what do you guys think of Carl's ALR screen.

https://www.carlofet.com/ambient-lig...-material.html

I don't mind getting my hand dirty and building your screen us not too complicated.

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What's odd is in the specs, it says "Not compatible with ultra/short throw projectors or edge-blending due to risk of hot spots".

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What's odd is in the specs, it says "Not compatible with ultra/short throw projectors or edge-blending due to risk of hot spots".
Just saw that,ok back to the drawing board.

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What's odd is in the specs, it says "Not compatible with ultra/short throw projectors or edge-blending due to risk of hot spots".
I would hope that means bulb lamp based UST/blended projectors due to the increased heat output up close.
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What's odd is in the specs, it says "Not compatible with ultra/short throw projectors or edge-blending due to risk of hot spots".

Ambient light rejecting screens are retro-reflective, i.e. the projection image is best reflected into the same direction where the projection image comes from, used to be done with glass beads while these modern ALR screens use crystals on the screen surface.


The problem with a UST projector is simply that the maximum reflection goes back into the direction of the UST projector. I assume that has been tested and as a result there is a hot spot (i.e. the center of the projected image is brighter than the surrounding areas) visible to the viewer.


AFAIK there are no special screens for UST projectors than can provide a better image than a standard 1.0 gain screen.

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Ambient light rejecting screens are retro-reflective, i.e. the projection image is best reflected into the same direction where the projection image comes from, used to be done with glass beads while these modern ALR screens use crystals on the screen surface.


The problem with a UST projector is simply that the maximum reflection goes back into the direction of the UST projector. I assume that has been tested and as a result there is a hot spot (i.e. the center of the projected image is brighter than the surrounding areas) visible to the viewer.


AFAIK there are no special screens for UST projectors than can provide a better image than a standard 1.0 gain screen.


Not true, there are UST specific screens that have great results. These screens have a lenticular surface. In fact this combination is much better at overcoming ambient light than traditional ALR setups.
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Not true, there are UST specific screens that have great results. These screens have a lenticular surface. In fact this combination is much better at overcoming ambient light than traditional ALR setups.

I said AFAIK, but now you've got my full attention.



Can you link to some examples and are these screens affordable?

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I said AFAIK, but now you've got my full attention.



Can you link to some examples and are these screens affordable?


I can’t post links because it against forum rules. If you look up the ViewSonic BCP 120 on Amazon there is a good description of how it works. It’s not cheap but is one of the best quality and least expensive lenticular options imo.
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Ok I don't know much about ALR so what do you guys think of Carl's ALR screen.

https://www.carlofet.com/ambient-lig...-material.html

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i went down that road and posted this a while back in another thread:

re carl's, it's tough to know what's going on with them in terms of their "alr" screens - if you call them they will flat out tell you that their alr screens aren't made for ust projector use, and that if you intend to use a ust projector then do not purchase either of their two "alr" screens (which includes their alr screen or their ultra alr screen) - they'll also tell tell you that their one and only "ust screen" has about a 50% success rate given it is extremely sensitive to installation parameters and, as such, they do not recommend it.... moreover you'll be told that their progray material (not advertised as alr) is susceptible to hotspots when paired with a ust and is not recommended... this leaves 2 gray-screen options from carl's, their flexigray and their ultragray, neither of which they claim are alr screens - instead they claim that these two screens may perform better in low ambient light than their white screens, but won't be as bright as their flexiwhite in dark rooms.
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