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Hopefully it's easy to pop open the case to see if the power supply has labeling that would settle whether it is actually 110-240v once and for all.


I know it’s really difficult yo believe, but I took am plugging my projector directly to the 110V plug here in Seattle even though I already have the transformer. The Mickey Mouse cord I use is actually from the POE adapter from my UniFi AC.
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Is this screen for UST? I don't see the projector in the video.. 😅

I just bought a 100" ALR Screen by Focusview S1 from Taobao/China(no reviews anywhere).. The screen material is hard and not soft type.. $1000USD.. I am not staying in China, so if the screen survives the international shipping, I would like to do some test as well.. BTW, my UST projector is ceiling mounted and from what I read online, people says ALR screen won't work for my setup.. 😂 But the Chinese retailers(all of them) told me to flip the screen around.. Not sure if they are scamming me.. Haha.. Logically based on the technic of the screen it should not work as well or work at all.. 😅.. This is a 1000USD risk I am taking..

My post looks 👌🏻 on my phone man.. What's up.. Haha
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Is this screen for UST? I don't see the projector in the video.. 😅

I just bought a 100" ALR Screen by Focusview S1 from Taobao/China(no reviews anywhere).. The screen material is hard and not soft type.. $1000USD.. I am not staying in China, so if the screen survives the international shipping, I would like to do some test as well.. BTW, my UST projector is ceiling mounted and from what I read online, people says ALR screen won't work for my setup.. 😂 But the Chinese retailers(all of them) told me to flip the screen around.. Not sure if they are scamming me.. Haha.. Logically based on the technic of the screen it should not work as well or work at all.. 😅.. This is a 1000USD risk I am taking.

My post looks 👌🏻 on my phone man.. What's up.. Haha
. What ever it is you're typing that's causing all this... could you please stop? It hurts to look at. Thank you.
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I know it’s really difficult yo believe, but I took am plugging my projector directly to the 110V plug here in Seattle even though I already have the transformer. The Mickey Mouse cord I use is actually from the POE adapter from my UniFi AC.
it seems that most ust laser projectors are 100-240v except for the xiaomi/wemax units... jmgo, lg hu85la, vava, dell s718ql, are all 100-240v, so why would xiaomi/wemax go with 200-240v? are the power supplies cheaper? are the other models all produced for international markets? seems to me there's a good chance that the xiaomi/wemax projectors are actually 100-240v as well, no?

anyway, so you're using you're using xiaomi mijia 4k with a 120v outlet? no probs at all? have you been able to compare it with using a 240v step up? my step up will be here tomorrow but just noticed it's a 17 pound block that measures 13" x 10" x 8", yikes, i sure would like it if i didn't have to use this monster sem-wallwart!
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Is this screen for UST? I don't see the projector in the video.. 😅

I just bought a 100" ALR Screen by Focusview S1 from Taobao/China(no reviews anywhere).. The screen material is hard and not soft type.. $1000USD.. I am not staying in China, so if the screen survives the international shipping, I would like to do some test as well.. BTW, my UST projector is ceiling mounted and from what I read online, people says ALR screen won't work for my setup.. 😂 But the Chinese retailers(all of them) told me to flip the screen around.. Not sure if they are scamming me.. Haha.. Logically based on the technic of the screen it should not work as well or work at all.. 😅.. This is a 1000USD risk I am taking..

My post looks 👌🏻 on my phone man.. What's up.. Haha
can you post some pictures of your ust ceiling mount? thanks!
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it seems that most ust laser projectors are 100-240v except for the xiaomi/wemax units... jmgo, lg hu85la, vava, dell s718ql, are all 100-240v, so why would xiaomi/wemax go with 200-240v? are the power supplies cheaper? are the other models all produced for international markets? seems to me there's a good chance that the xiaomi/wemax projectors are actually 100-240v as well, no?

anyway, so you're using you're using xiaomi mijia 4k with a 120v outlet? no probs at all? have you been able to compare it with using a 240v step up? my step up will be here tomorrow but just noticed it's a 17 pound block that measures 13" x 10" x 8", yikes, i sure would like it if i didn't have to use this monster sem-wallwart!


I bought one from Amazon initially cause I wasn’t brave enough. The converter worked fine, but I didn’t want to have any bulky device to generate heat behind the already crowded cables area. Eventually I tried plugging the projector directly to wall and it’s been working without issue.


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Old projector with old 92"grey screen. Both sold. Using the 2019 version Xiaomi Projector now. I have very well controlled lighting in my room, but I wish to be able to switch on some light hence the purchase of a ALR screen.. I also have no space infront of my bed that is why I mounted the projector. I will be changing the old mount to a 6cm shorter one which can also slide forward and backwards.. Pretty cool.. 🙂
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I bought one from Amazon initially cause I wasn’t brave enough. The converter worked fine, but I didn’t want to have any bulky device to generate heat behind the already crowded cables area. Eventually I tried plugging the projector directly to wall and it’s been working without issue.


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i think i'm going to end up following your lead.....

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Old projector with old 92"grey screen. Both sold. Using the 2019 version Xiaomi Projector now. I have very well controlled lighting in my room, but I wish to be able to switch on some light hence the purchase of a ALR screen.. I also have no space infront of my bed that is why I mounted the projector. I will be changing the old mount to a 6cm shorter one which can also slide forward and backwards.. Pretty cool.. 🙂
thanks for the pictures, nicely done! i'm also going to roll the dice on a 2.35:1 lenticular screen for a ceiling mount and flip it... btw, you should really try to figure out what's going on with your posts, they're barely legible!
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I know it’s really difficult yo believe, but I took am plugging my projector directly to the 110V plug here in Seattle even though I already have the transformer. The Mickey Mouse cord I use is actually from the POE adapter from my UniFi AC.
That is hilarious because the cable I used is from my POE Ubiquity Unifi gear too lol.

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Is this screen for UST? I don't see the projector in the video.. 😅

I just bought a 100" ALR Screen by Focusview S1 from Taobao/China(no reviews anywhere).. The screen material is hard and not soft type.. $1000USD.. I am not staying in China, so if the screen survives the international shipping, I would like to do some test as well.. BTW, my UST projector is ceiling mounted and from what I read online, people says ALR screen won't work for my setup.. 😂 But the Chinese retailers(all of them) told me to flip the screen around.. Not sure if they are scamming me.. Haha.. Logically based on the technic of the screen it should not work as well or work at all.. 😅.. This is a 1000USD risk I am taking..

My post looks 👌🏻 on my phone man.. What's up.. Haha
All of your post look like this:

https://imgur.com/bHOXOhR

https://imgur.com/IFa9aI2

https://imgur.com/mqKkhXR

Please do us a favor and stop using whatever app you are using to post. Just use Chrome as a browser or another app.

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Projector: Xiaomi UST Laser Projector 4k (2019 edition).
My current setup: https://imgur.com/gallery/RnRc98a

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it seems that most ust laser projectors are 100-240v except for the xiaomi/wemax units... jmgo, lg hu85la, vava, dell s718ql, are all 100-240v, so why would xiaomi/wemax go with 200-240v? are the power supplies cheaper? are the other models all produced for international markets? seems to me there's a good chance that the xiaomi/wemax projectors are actually 100-240v as well, no?

anyway, so you're using you're using xiaomi mijia 4k with a 120v outlet? no probs at all? have you been able to compare it with using a 240v step up? my step up will be here tomorrow but just noticed it's a 17 pound block that measures 13" x 10" x 8", yikes, i sure would like it if i didn't have to use this monster sem-wallwart!
I assume you mean specifically the WEMAX UST because my first gen Xiaomi UST (white non international) works just fine with just the cable and no converter. I had been using a converter until this month, when I grew the courage to try it.

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Omg.. Wth.. I am pissed at my own text .. I apologize man.. Using the forum in Tapatalk now instead of chrome mobile.. Hopefully it helps..

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Does anyone have calibration settings for this pj yet?
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I assume you mean specifically the WEMAX UST because my first gen Xiaomi UST (white non international) works just fine with just the cable and no converter. I had been using a converter until this month, when I grew the courage to try it.
yes, i was referring to ust lasers, seems that most (all?) are 100-240v save for the xiaomi/wemax units, which leads me to believe that the xiaomi/wemax units might very well be 100-240v as well, i mean why wouldn't they be given all of these ust lasers are pretty much the same animal, unless the 200-240v power supplies are cheaper, or the other models were specially made for international markets?

so your wemax, was it labeled as 200-240v? and you used 120v without issue?

EDIT: so wait, you were using a step-up and then decided to switch to just using the cord and 120v outlet? is that right? so both you and @ad2001 are using 120v outlets without any issues?

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Does anyone have calibration settings for this pj yet?
yeah, i'd ike to know this too, my emails to vincent have gone unanswered.
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Can someone please give me information about the following?:

a) As it runs at 60Hz what about other frame formats like 24p in regards of judder etc. ?
b) Do you miss the FI?
c) How is the black level compared to a LCD Projector like Epson?

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yes, i was referring to ust lasers, seems that most (all?) are 100-240v save for the xiaomi/wemax units, which leads me to believe that the xiaomi/wemax units might very well be 100-240v as well, i mean why wouldn't they be given all of these ust lasers are pretty much the same animal, unless the 200-240v power supplies are cheaper, or the other models were specially made for international markets?

so your wemax, was it labeled as 200-240v? and you used 120v without issue?

EDIT: so wait, you were using a step-up and then decided to switch to just using the cord and 120v outlet? is that right? so both you and @ad2001 are using 120v outlets without any issues?
No issues what so ever on my Xiaomi UST Laser projector gen 1. I plan on doing the same on the new projector once it arrives.

The link in my signature has my setup but that was when I was still using the converter (the black box next to the projector). I am no longer using it.

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No issues what so ever on my Xiaomi UST Laser projector gen 1.
and it was labeled as 200-240v?
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Can someone please give me information about the following?:

a) As it runs at 60Hz what about other frame formats like 24p in regards of judder etc. ?
b) Do you miss the FI?
c) How is the black level compared to a LCD Projector like Epson?

Thanks!
Look back at my part 1 and 2 reviews earlier in this thread. Short answer: the 3 items you called out, along with manual 3D & other nags, convinced me to get rid of this PJ on eBay. Now waiting to see if Optoma CinemaX P1 is (hopefully) better.

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No issues what so ever on my Xiaomi UST Laser projector gen 1.
and it was labeled as 200-240v?
That is correct.

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These are the sample photos sent by the sellers from China where projector is ceiling mount and screen flipped 180.. They tried to convince me ALR still works and when I asked them how would the screen knows which light source is coming from the ceiling and which one comes from the projector, they told me to switch off the lights.. Lol.. Then what's the point of buying ALR screen right.. Some of them got pissed and asked me to just project onto the wall and I told them "good idea".. Lol..Click image for larger version

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Thought I'd post a part II to my initial review earlier. Just spent another 3 hours w/the Xiaomi, really critically evaluating PQ, picture options/controls and whether motion artifacts/jaggies are bothersome enough for me. Trying to finally decide whether to keep this PJ, with the flaws I & others have pointed out, or stick w/my Optoma UHD51A for a while (until a better UST PJ that's 4K+3D capable comes out).

Re-positioned/re-setup the Xiaomi PJ again, trying to line it up as best possible, even & all, with my screen. Because my screen has beveled edges/black borders (pic), no matter what, with the Xiaomi projecting up toward it, part of the bottom of the screen gets cut off (like so). You really need a screen w/a flat or flat-ish border with this PJ.

For testing, plugged in my Zidoo Z9S to HDMI1, and nVidia Shield TV to HDMI2 (pic1, pic2). Was hoping the picture mode settings could at least be uniquely saved for each input... and yes, thankfully so! For each input, to get around picture settings being the same w/this PJ, no matter 3D, 1080p, 4K SDR & HDR, you at least can have a secondary picture setting for input 2, and another for input 3. But, the pain is that when running source devices though an AVR, like most of us do, there's only one HDMI out to the Xiaomi. Unless, that is, you introduce a HDMI switcher in between, which may cause HDMI handshake issues as the Xiaomi is so picky/sensitive with HDMI cables & getting HDMI 2.0/full [email protected] to take.

Before I talk about picture settings & PQ, someone earlier asked about distance between screen & PJ. This is w/my 100" screen: pic1, pic2.

Oh, think I mentioned it before, but the Xiaomi is rather finnicky going into HDMI 2.0 mode. Even if it works once, and you come back another time/day, don't expect it to work, as you may need to unplug the HDMI cable & plug it back in, or turn off the source device & back on. This shows when I powered on for the day, and this after I unplugged/re-plugged the HDMI cable.

The best thing about the Xiaomi PJ (other than it being an UST) is its sharpness and uniformity (better than 90% or better over the full projected image). Both of these aspects are better than two 4K DLP's I've tried so far (BenQ HT2550 and my current Optoma UHD51A).

So, finally, picture settings & trying to get as accurate colors as possible. I'm eyeballing it as I don't have professional calibration gear. But, this is the toughest part w/the Xiaomi, trying to dial in what looks right as none of the presets really (or fully satisfactorily) do. And, as I mentioned, once you get colors right for 3D source, they just don't look right for SD/SDR, and yet not again for 4K HDR. And, with each input on this PJ, you're stuck with only a single set of image settings, which sucks. So, here's me trying to work picture w/3D (pics taken via iPhone with 3D glasses in between):
- Picture setting1 (in actual viewing, doesn't look as red)
- Picture setting2 (actual looks warmer, more orange/yellow)
- Picture setting3 (actual looks pretty good, but picture goes softer)
- User setting1 (@mlkconcept's settings, while look good in this iPhone pic, actually look a little drab/washed out, but definitely more accurate than all of the above)
- User setting2 (my 1st custom, trial & error, in actual viewing, looks right-ish)
- User setting3 (my 2nd custom attempt, in actual viewing, also looks right-ish)
- User setting4 (my 3nd custom attempt, in actual viewing, looks more right)
- User setting5 (my 4nd custom attempt, in actual viewing, also looks right)

Before I leave 3D, wanted to mention that I tried several full 3D, SBS and HOU titles, and all worked well, in rendering as proper 3D. The 3D effect is excellent across the board, depth, no crosstalk or ghosting, brightness. Initially had thought 3D was better than BenQ’s & Optoma’s, but it isn’t; rather it’s the Xiaomi’s sharpness that makes it seem so.

So, moving on to a different input (HDMI2), I get to apply this input's own/unique picture settings. Now I'm using nVidia Shield TV, and trying a demo 4K HDR clip. When I replicate/apply that last custom picture setting from 3D from input1, it looks like crap. See what I mean?! So, proving my point, the same picture settings will not work across SD/SDR, HD, 3D & 4K HDR. Now, the sample looks much better with both the standard preset & movie preset (and minor adjustments can make this better), which wasn't the same w/3D source.

And, when HDMI 2.0 mode locks in, you can see here that the Xiaomi PJ supports [email protected]/REC2020/10bit just fine (as indicated by my nVidia Shield).

Finally, I tested several FPS/motion test clips, and the Xiaomi doesn't fare too well. I'm seeing motion judder in 1080p or upscaled to 4K. It isn't as bad in 4K, but still noticeable. I then tried a couple of 1080p and 4K movies with camera pans, and the judder is noticeable. Not as severe like with test clips, but noticeable & bothersome nonetheless. Add the jaggies I also notice with 60fps content, both 1080p and 4K, and all these issues add up to pretty significant dings for home theater & movie enthusiasts.

So, where do I stand w/the Xiaomi PJ vs. Optoma UHD51A? After this second round of critical testing, I'm thinking of sticking w/my Optoma UHD51A. I really wanted to like (no, love) the Xiaomi UST, but it's hard to ignore all the flaws. Not one is a dealbreaker, but considering all of them, I'm afraid it is. In the end, if I compare these two PJ's based on PQ, not the coolness of the Xiaomi being a UST, the Optoma is just better all-around. Sure, the Xiaomi is sharper, brighter & punchier, but its picture is also blown-out, where you miss highlights & details. And color accuracy isn't that good, where Optoma easily bests it. Not to mention, the Optoma also does automatic 3D switching, proper 23.976/24 and no video artifacts, and cinema picture settings that look good no matter which source or type of content.

I'm going to play around some more w/the Xiaomi over the weekend before making a final call on it. But, I don't see most of its flaws as really addressable. Firmware updates may help, but as I rewatch Vincent's YouTube review of this PJ & read Secrets' review of the Vava (basically the same PJ), I get the sense we need to wait for these APLD UST's to mature some.
What are you using as you're 3D source as i have to be honest my 3D looks average at best if i am honest. That said i am using rips rather than a 3D player and actual discs so not sure if that is affecting it at the moment
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What are you using as you're 3D source as i have to be honest my 3D looks average at best if i am honest. That said i am using rips rather than a 3D player and actual discs so not sure if that is affecting it at the moment
I saw from your review on a related site that you're using a Sonos surround setup and haven't had issues with audio delay. How do you have it hooked up and is it a raw audio output?

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Look back at my part 1 and 2 reviews earlier in this thread. Short answer: the 3 items you called out, along with manual 3D & other nags, convinced me to get rid of this PJ on eBay. Now waiting to see if Optoma CinemaX P1 is (hopefully) better.
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I'm in contact with XY screens (King Wong) and he recommended for the Mijia UST Projector the PET Crystal HG (0.95) screen. Does anyone have experience with this new screen?
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I saw from your review on a related site that you're using a Sonos surround setup and haven't had issues with audio delay. How do you have it hooked up and is it a raw audio output?

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to be honest it is just literally plugged in using the optical output to the playbase and the 2 sonos play 1's connected to it. Not even sure how to change the delay even if it is out as i have never had to do it yet. I am using apple tv 4k to stream rip's from plex
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Got my Pj yesterday and hooked it up today just to ensure it works properly. Wow! Even on a yellow wall the picture looked amazing! Played around streaming some of the apps and playing some 720P trailers and the picture looked great!

Since I was getting a new projector and screen I figured I would give my movie room and AV system a remake, so it will be a couple of weeks before I can connect the pj to some 1080P or 4K content. Can’t wait.

Got a system update when I shut it down.
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Got my Pj yesterday and hooked it up today just to ensure it works properly. Wow! Even on a yellow wall the picture looked amazing! Played around streaming some of the apps and playing some 720P trailers and the picture looked great!

Since I was getting a new projector and screen I figured I would give my movie room and AV system a remake, so it will be a couple of weeks before I can connect the pj to some 1080P or 4K content. Can’t wait.

Got a system update when I shut it down.
great to hear that it arrived! a couple of questions:

1. are you using a 120 > 240 step-up converter?
2. did you ever receive the calibration settings from vincent?
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