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You post had links and discussion about "where to buy".
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You post had links and discussion about "where to buy".
ok, gotchya, i'll rephrase....


is the model discussed in this thread the same model that can be found around the net, the xiaomi wemax one pro fmws02c model? if not, what's the difference? thanks!
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how's the fan's noise? that's the 1 point i must clear before i can buy...

so far i understood it's a 4k pixel shift projector, supporting HDR and 3D.....it's all i want..^^

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how's the fan's noise? that's the 1 point i must clear before i can buy...

so far i understood it's a 4k pixel shift projector, supporting HDR and 3D.....it's all i want..^^


i'm actually thinking of buying since it's now on offer for 12999rmb @ xiaomi directly...
It is in fact noisy... even very noisy when you turn on the projector and at the beginning for some minutes. After it is more silent and i don't notice the fans noise on normal use, i don't know if it's because they introduced this time an automatic control fans system variation...
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It is in fact noisy... even very noisy when you turn on the projector and at the beginning for some minutes. After it is more silent and i don't notice the fans noise on normal use, i don't know if it's because they introduced this time an automatic control fans system variation...

thank you...i would sit ~3m away from it...the AVR would be close to the projector...but still i'm worried....my wife might kill me if it's too noisy....hard decision to make..
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Thanks for helping us out. Information has been sparse at best so I wanted to personally thank you.

Can you please test a few things for us?

a) Does this device have HDMI 2.0 or 2.1?

b) What is the delay for gaming? You can start by using this page: https://www.testufo.com/mprt

c) Does this projector also use Android like the previous ones?

Thanks again!
I have used your link to test the input lag for gaming and it shows 15,3 ms, i will do more tests further.
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I have used your link to test the input lag for gaming and it shows 15,3 ms, i will do more tests further.
15.3 ms is pretty good for a projector. Definitely viable for gaming.

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15.3 ms is pretty good for a projector. Definitely viable for gaming.


Given this, and the ability to do 150”, this projector is now VERY high on my list. I’m just stuck trying to figure out how to get this purchased directly from Xiaomi’s website and shipped to America. All of the sites supporting this are adding a grand in surcharges, which becomes a ridiculous 1/3rd of the overall cost.


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still a bit confused... are these the same projectors?


xiaomi wemax one pro fmws02c ansi
mirror black - hdr 3000:1 0.47 inch dmd 150 inch t968 cortex-a53 4-core 4k android 6.0 alpd 3.0




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white -150 inch projection size / full hd / voice control / 4k android 6.0 alpd 3.0

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still a bit confused... are these the same projectors?


xiaomi wemax one pro fmws02c ansi
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xiaomi mijia laser projector - ultra short throw
white -150 inch projection size / full hd / voice control / 4k android 6.0 alpd 3.0

The xiaomi wemax one and the white version are both FauxK meaning it accepts 4k inputs and downscales it to 1080p. It looks better than any 1080p projector I have ever seen because the downscale really makes the image look clear. Still it is not a real 4k device.
The new model does not downscale and runs at 4k.

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The xiaomi wemax one and the white version are both FauxK meaning it accepts 4k inputs and downscales it to 1080p. It looks better than any 1080p projector I have ever seen because the downscale really makes the image look clear. Still it is not a real 4k device.
The new model does not downscale and runs at 4k.
thanks very much, this was driving me crazy given the above mentioned projectors seemed to have different (better) specs than the xiaomi that's available on a popular site, albeit they look identical.... anyway, thanks again...
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The xiaomi wemax one and the white version are both FauxK meaning it accepts 4k inputs and downscales it to 1080p. It looks better than any 1080p projector I have ever seen because the downscale really makes the image look clear. Still it is not a real 4k device.
The new model does not downscale and runs at 4k.
I'm sure the new 4k version is pixel shifting, which is faux 4k. All of the DLP 4k projectors under $20k do pixel shifting to get a 4k image.
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I'm sure the new 4k version is pixel shifting, which is faux 4k. All of the DLP 4k projectors under $20k do pixel shifting to get a 4k image.


I think you missed his point, and there is a great article on Projector Central as to why everybody needs to stop calling the TI chips FauxK.

Firstly, he was explaining that Xiaomi did themselves and the whole industry a disservice by referring to their 1080p projectors that ACCEPT 4K as 4K projectors, which is truly FauxK! Talk about a whopper of a lie.

Second, this Mijia uses the TI 47DMD to display enough pixels on screen to represent true 4K, but you already knew that. This horse has already been beaten to death long ago, but....

The point is, Xiaomi has not only created some terrible marketing strategies for their projectors, but also made them identical in both appearance and also spec wise, minus the differences in resolution. I continue to fight with this issue in my search to purchase the correct model. And distributors are using this confusion to offload old models at new model prices.


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I think you missed his point, and there is a great article on Projector Central as to why everybody needs to stop calling the TI chips FauxK.

Firstly, he was explaining that Xiaomi did themselves and the whole industry a disservice by referring to their 1080p projectors that ACCEPT 4K as 4K projectors, which is truly FauxK! Talk about a whopper of a lie.

Second, this Mijia uses the TI 47DMD to display enough pixels on screen to represent true 4K, but you already knew that. This horse has already been beaten to death long ago, but....

The point is, Xiaomi has not only created some terrible marketing strategies for their projectors, but also made them identical in both appearance and also spec wise, minus the differences in resolution. I continue to fight with this issue in my search to purchase the correct model. And distributors are using this confusion to offload old models at new model prices.


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I'm aware of the article. It's still not native 4k though. I have owned 5 JVC eshift projectors, native 4k Sony models, and will have a native 4k JVC RS2000 later this month. I have tons of experience with faux and native 4k projectors. Never said that DLP 4k projectors are trash models, because I want to purchase one and know that it will be a good secondary projector for non critical movie watching material. However, they are pixel shifting projectors anyway you want to slice it. They can produce a 4k image just like the multiple previous JVC eshift that I owned.
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I continue to fight with this issue in my search to purchase the correct model. And distributors are using this confusion to offload old models at new model prices.
Huh, which old vs new model? As far as I know there are 4 models, but they are all different. Original white (Chinese/International), 5500 lumens Wemax, 7000 lumens Wemax pro and the new 4k which is barely available anywhere
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It is in fact noisy... even very noisy when you turn on the projector and at the beginning for some minutes. After it is more silent and i don't notice the fans noise on normal use, i don't know if it's because they introduced this time an automatic control fans system variation...
Thanks for all the super useful info! I was about to buy the Wemax one Pro (1k less expensive now) then I saw this 4k model coming out!

Few questions:

- how does it work with PS4 PRO/4k gaming? Any screenshot?
- how is performing with HD (1080) and 4k streaming platform (Netflix, Amazon Prime, Sky Q)?
- do you know if there is gonna be an international/EU version mounting Android TV instead of MIUTV (like for the MI pj)?

Thanks a lot!

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I’m looking to find the apk to add English settings/menu.
Can you please tell me where I can find it and if there is a small guide how to install it?
Is there anything extra to do then?
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I’m looking to find the apk to add English settings/menu.
Can you please tell me where I can find it and if there is a small guide how to install it?
Is there anything extra to do then?
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Thanks for all the super useful info! I was about to buy the Wemax one Pro (1k less expensive now) then I saw this 4k model coming out!

Few questions:

- how does it work with PS4 PRO/4k gaming? Any screenshot?
- how is performing with HD (1080) and 4k streaming platform (Netflix, Amazon Prime, Sky Q)?
- do you know if there is gonna be an international/EU version mounting Android TV instead of MIUTV (like for the MI pj)?

Thanks a lot!

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It works perfectly with PS4 pro and it is detected as 4K HDR, but the HDR does not perform the same depending the game played... for example i like the HDR rendered on GOW 4 but on RDR 2 i prefer without HDR. I have played also "Asseto Corsa" and din't notice any lag until now...

It performs imo very well on Netflix and Prime, the picture is superb for me, but i have connected the Nvidia shield on my OPPO UHD-203 HDMI IN port, with HDMI 2.0 activated on the shield. I like the result !

I don't think there will be soon an international version... for now it is the same Chinese MIUTV system as the 1080p previous version.
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Perfect, I would connect it to a Denon AVR 2500 4k receiver that should help on 4K/HDR passthrough.

According to you, is the overall picture quality so much better than Mi/Wemax pro ones to justify £1k more?
Still bit confused about getting a 1080/4k now or waiting
couple of months to see if the 4k version price goes down and get an international Oreo forum.

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It works perfectly with PS4 pro and it is detected as 4K HDR, but the HDR does not perform the same depending the game played... for example i like the HDR rendered on GOW 4 but on RDR 2 i prefer without HDR. I have played also "Asseto Corsa" and din't notice any lag until now...

It performs imo very well on Netflix and Prime, the picture is superb for me, but i have connected the Nvidia shield on my OPPO UHD-203 HDMI IN port, with HDMI 2.0 activated on the shield. I like the result !

I don't think there will be soon an international version... for now it is the same Chinese MIUTV system as the 1080p previous version.
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4k version isn't worth the high premium over 1080p at the moment, in general going from 1080p to 4k isn't as huge difference for normal viewing. Other bummer with this new 4k is that brightness is identical according to specs. Hence I picked up international 1080p version and pretty happy with it considering it was more then half of what the new 4k is going for and it's not Chinese.

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4k version isn't worth the high premium over 1080p at the moment, in general going from 1080p to 4k isn't as huge difference for normal viewing.
LMAO! Wow, so going from a BMW to a Ferrari isn't a huge difference? Going from Citizen watch to a Tag Heuer isn't a huge difference? You are in the minority on that opinion, especially at the sizes that these UST projectors can bring (120"-150").

Have you seen 4K projected on anything bigger than 100"? I'm just curious...because for me, I can see the difference between 1080 and 4K on my 12.5" 4K laptop, my 28" 4K monitor and my 55" 4K TV. I'm corrected to 20/10 with my contacts in and even without them 4K is miles sharper and clearer...to me...but I like quality. 😎🤩
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LMAO! Wow, so going from a BMW to a Ferrari isn't a huge difference? Going from Citizen watch to a Tag Heuer isn't a huge difference? You are in the minority on that opinion, especially at the sizes that these UST projectors can bring (120"-150").

Have you seen 4K projected on anything bigger than 100"? I'm just curious...because for me, I can see the difference between 1080 and 4K on my 12.5" 4K laptop, my 28" 4K monitor and my 55" 4K TV. I'm corrected to 20/10 with my contacts in and even without them 4K is miles sharper and clearer...to me...but I like quality. 😎🤩
Sounds like you are not familiar with viewing distance and type of content being watched to get benefits of 4k... Of course 4k is clear for sure... when you put your nose against it and admire the lack of visible pixels, but if you are watching streaming movies from a normal viewing distance there is absolutely no difference for me and most of the content is 1080p anyway and I do have 43" 4k monitor as well as 65" 4k tv, but for laptop especially 12.5" it's overkill to have 4k, I prefer 1080p screens for that size.

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...when you put your nose against it and admire the lack of visible pixels.
Not even, try again.

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...but if you are watching streaming movies from a normal viewing distance there is absolutely no difference for me and most of the content is 1080p
That's the problem, you're watching 1080p streaming, I'm watching 4K content on 4K screens and can see a huge difference miles away.

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...but for laptop especially 12.5" it's overkill to have 4k, I prefer 1080p screens for that size.
Not overkill to have the highest quality available, you don't sound like a quality minded person and you seem to be stuck on 1080p so you did good by going with the lesser model.

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Not even, try again.
That's the problem, you're watching 1080p streaming, I'm watching 4K content on 4K screens and can see a huge difference miles away.

Not overkill to have the highest quality available, you don't sound like a quality minded person and you seem to be stuck on 1080p so you did good by going with the lesser model.

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wow... it must be amazing to watch 4k stuff on 12.5 display or even 55" and I have been missing out on it all these years... lmao

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wow... it must be amazing to watch 4k stuff on 12.5 display or even 55" and I have been missing out on it all these years... lmao
I'm a designer and even on my 15' MacBook pro the high res display makes a huge difference, switching between my Mac and my ThinkPad showcases this clearly. (Going from my Kuro to a 4k OLED even at my viewing distance was incredible especially watching 4k content)
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It is in fact noisy... even very noisy when you turn on the projector and at the beginning for some minutes. After it is more silent and i don't notice the fans noise on normal use, i don't know if it's because they introduced this time an automatic control fans system variation...
Can you please tell more about the noise? I had the first Xiaomi Laser Beamer and it was way too loud for me. It was so loud, that I sold it. The noise of the first one stayed the whole time the same. Do I understand it right? You say, that the noise is getting more silent after a while of using the beamer? After how long is it getting more silent? How loud is "more silent" and does it stay silent for longer? Sorry for the many questions, but this is most important for me. The picture-quality of the first one was already good enough, but it was simply too loud. That's why I waited until now for a successor.
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I have 1st gen of xiaomi laser projector for 8 months and i wonder what's benefit of upgrade to 4k, is it anygood?
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I'm a designer and even on my 15' MacBook pro the high res display makes a huge difference, switching between my Mac and my ThinkPad showcases this clearly. (Going from my Kuro to a 4k OLED even at my viewing distance was incredible especially watching 4k content)
Dude, i think you are late to this old debate on 4k benefits proportional to screen size and vuwing distance along with type of content you are watching. What I said is that current pricing on this 4k Mijia is way too high considering isn't that much different in specs from 1080p version aside resolution and in my view currently there is little benefit to spend this much if all you are getting is a bump on fake 4k. Price will come down once we have more options and hopefully we will have global version by year end.

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