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Casey, can you give us a direct link to the seller and the actual model listing? There are so many Xiaomi models or listings, and just like eBay, they will toss words in the headlines that have nothing to do with the product to get more serach results. For example, putting 4k in the headline of the normal 1080p version to get more hits. If it's against forum rules, then please PM me. Thank you.

I can for the Fengmi 4K version which is a little better (brighter, faster input lag) on most accounts (per PHC review as well). I worked with Stephen Lou and he was great to work with. https://formovie.en.alibaba.com/ Just search on that page for "Real goog" LOL 😂. Yes I know it's misspelled but, it's the listing I used.
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Casey, can you give us a direct link to the seller and the actual model listing? There are so many Xiaomi models or listings, and just like eBay, they will toss words in the headlines that have nothing to do with the product to get more serach results. For example, putting 4k in the headline of the normal 1080p version to get more hits. If it's against forum rules, then please PM me. Thank you.
I PM'ed you.
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Believe it or not it was 720p per the Stats for Nerds (aka Info) from YouTubeTV. I'm not 100% percent sure if its the Roku doing it's magic, but it does the same with The Office on Netflix so..I guess that's what the Ultra is all about. I know even The Office looked bad by comparison on the Roku Streaming Stick (up to 1080p only) using the same Netflix, but I'm not sure if I was just getting a lesser stream due to the device or if it was really all about that Ultra taking it up a notch. I tested the regular Streaming Stick with my Darbee and it still didn't look as good as what I was seeing with the Ultra alone, I didn't take the Ultra down to 1080p so I could test with my Darbee because at that point I knew I would just have better luck just upscaling everything to a 4K output with the Ultra and it wasn't worth the extra effort to have one input on my projector dedicated to 1080p content. That may change when I test more Frame packed 3D, but for now I've got SBS 3D looking pretty good via MadVR.

BTW I tried the Fox Sports app for the World Series and it wasn't any better than what I was getting from YouTubeTV. I'd bet it was 720p, but I can't confirm.
What is the model of the Roku streaming device? My Chromecast Ultra 4K player sure does not upscale Youtube TV. And we know the Xiaomi 4K UST project does not upscale either. BTW, I assume you are not using a 4K receiver or any device in between the Roku player and Xiaomi.
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What is the model of the Roku streaming device? My Chromecast Ultra 4K player sure does not upscale Youtube TV. And we know the Xiaomi 4K UST project does not upscale either. BTW, I assume you are not using a 4K receiver or any device in between the Roku player and Xiaomi.
OK I have found the answer here.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/sethpor.../#5bbec0ba3c06

"Not only is the Roku Ultra one of the only set-top streaming devices on the market that can handle the entire battery of next-generation display technologies (not just 4K, but also 60fps and HDR), but it also features the ability to upscale lower-resolution content up to 4K. "

I might have to get this Roku Ultra. My Chromecast Ultra does not upscale at all.
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OK I have found the answer here.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/sethpor.../#5bbec0ba3c06

"Not only is the Roku Ultra one of the only set-top streaming devices on the market that can handle the entire battery of next-generation display technologies (not just 4K, but also 60fps and HDR), but it also features the ability to upscale lower-resolution content up to 4K. "

I might have to get this Roku Ultra. My Chromecast Ultra does not upscale at all.
I am hearing really good things about the new 2019 NVidia Shield and its AI Upscaling. I just ordered one, waiting for stock.
I have the 2015 Shield and a Roku Ultra and the Shield is by far a better player and the only one that will do Atmos/7.1.
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I am hearing really good things about the new 2019 NVidia Shield and its AI Upscaling. I just ordered one, waiting for stock.
I have the 2015 Shield and a Roku Ultra and the Shield is by far a better player and the only one that will do Atmos/7.1.
I saw the recent announcement too. After you have a chance to test it, please let me know if the upscale for Youtube TV sport broadcast to 4K looks good or not. Thank!
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I started to consider the UST projectors due to ease of placement. There are so many different versions of 4K UST projectors in Alibaba (granted some are rebranded Mijias). Is Xiaomi Mijia still the one to buy? There is also VAVA which you can buy directly in US but I am not sure if it's worth the price difference. Can someone send me PM for proper vendors in AliBaba? Also did someone order a floor rising ALR screen from China, if so how was the experience? Vivid Storm is out of stock in Amazon.
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I started to consider the UST projectors due to ease of placement. There are so many different versions of 4K UST projectors in Alibaba (granted some are rebranded Mijias). Is Xiaomi Mijia still the one to buy? There is also VAVA which you can buy directly in US but I am not sure if it's worth the price difference. Can someone send me PM for proper vendors in AliBaba? Also did someone order a floor rising ALR screen from China, if so how was the experience? Vivid Storm is out of stock in Amazon.
Regarding the xiaomi projectors, and seeing how many people recently complained about display issues (seemingly due to a hardware design issue) on mijia, I'd probably choose fengmi or wemax instead.
Concerning the other brands, I don't really know.
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Regarding the xiaomi projectors, and seeing how many people recently complained about display issues (seemingly due to a hardware design issue) on mijia, I'd probably choose fengmi or wemax instead.
Concerning the other brands, I don't really know.
Wemax seems to be way more expensive. I only saw Fengmi in this thread. The issue about these Chinese products is finding reliable information. They don't do professional reviews about these products which I totally understand.
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Has anyone heard of a Ultra short throw projector that could do a 200" diagonal 2.4 aspect?

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I’m also looking into getting my first UST projector and have my eyes on this Xiaomi 4K. Price is $1700 current on ******** with 11/11 coming it might be cheaper. But hearing problems from other users I’m a bit worried , also does not being HDCP 2.2 compliant hinder any 4K streaming service?

I will be also looking in to a Rising floor XY screen, which material is best for this projector? Or do they only have one type, ideas of cost for a 100”?
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I’m also looking into getting my first UST projector and have my eyes on this Xiaomi 4K. Price is $1700 current on ******** with 11/11 coming it might be cheaper. But hearing problems from other users I’m a bit worried , also does not being HDCP 2.2 compliant hinder any 4K streaming service?

I will be also looking in to a Rising floor XY screen, which material is best for this projector? Or do they only have one type, ideas of cost for a 100”?
While I have Xiaomi, I would much rather go with Fengmi 4K as my upgrade or even Vava for a bit more but with warranty. Coil whine is annoying in Xiaomi models

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I’️m also looking into getting my first UST projector and have my eyes on this Xiaomi 4K. Price is $1700 current on ******** with 11/11 coming it might be cheaper. But hearing problems from other users I’️m a bit worried , also does not being HDCP 2.2 compliant hinder any 4K streaming service?

I will be also looking in to a Rising floor XY screen, which material is best for this projector? Or do they only have one type, ideas of cost for a 100â€Â?
While I have Xiaomi, I would much rather go with Fengmi 4K as my upgrade or even Vava for a bit more but with warranty. Coil whine is annoying in Xiaomi models
The Fengmi is the same exact projector as the Xiaomi with bumped up brightness, suffers from the same problems. The Vava looks good but is a bit too expensive for me. I’m leaning towards it but would have to save up for it. Never mind it’s not even Native 4k.. Any other models coming out?

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Hi all,

I own the Fengmi 4K cinema which is similar to the Xiaomi (higher brightness) and looking for a 120 inch Pet Crystal screen.

At the moment I have 2 offers:

Azure USD$800
XY screens USD$1100

Both are including shipping to Sydney Australia.

Is it worth going for XY which is $300 more expensive, any other brands I should look at or is the Azure good enough (not a lot of reviews out)?

Thanks in advance.

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Hi all,

I own the Fengmi 4K cinema which is similar to the Xiaomi (higher brightness) and looking for a 120 inch Pet Crystal screen.

At the moment I have 2 offers:

Azure USD$800
XY screens USD$1100

Both are including shipping to Sydney Australia.

Is it worth going for XY which is $300 more expensive, any other brands I should look at or is the Azure good enough (not a lot of reviews out)?

Thanks in advance.

Cheers,
Steve
I can't comment on the Azure screen but i do now the XY Screen and their service was fantastic and the screen made a difference when i compared to my test on a white wall to using the screen.

It would also depend on where you plan on using the screen because from what i understand, if you use it solely in the dark or dark room then a cheaper screen would work just as well, i'm happy to be proved wrong though
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I can't comment on the Azure screen but i do now the XY Screen and their service was fantastic and the screen made a difference when i compared to my test on a white wall to using the screen.

It would also depend on where you plan on using the screen because from what i understand, if you use it solely in the dark or dark room then a cheaper screen would work just as well, i'm happy to be proved wrong though
Thanks for your advice, it is a pretty dark controlled living room but like the idea to watch during the day.

Email from Azure:

Hi Steve

The biggest size of the pet crystal screen we can do is 120 inch 16:9.
The gain is 0.8.With special optical sawtooth structure,the pet crystal material can avoid 93% of the influence from ambient light.

I'm not familiar with the quality of XY screen but i can assure you the best quality of our pet crystal screen.
Here attached some pics and videos of the pet crystal screen for your reference.
The pet crystal material is one of the ALR material ,it has a good feature of ambient light rejection. You can see a very clear images during the day. Also we use the super narrow aluminum alloy frame which is only 10mm so the images won't be limited by the edges when projected.

Please let me know if there is any other questions.

Thanks
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Hi all,

I own the Fengmi 4K cinema which is similar to the Xiaomi (higher brightness) and looking for a 120 inch Pet Crystal screen.

At the moment I have 2 offers:

Azure USD$800
XY screens USD$1100

Both are including shipping to Sydney Australia.

Is it worth going for XY which is $300 more expensive, any other brands I should look at or is the Azure good enough (not a lot of reviews out)?

Thanks in advance.

Cheers,
Steve
This post will highlight the differences for you:

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/23-sc...l#post58271746

I have the Azure 120" and I would have to agree that the frame is of very low quality. When it arrived, I made a huge ruckus on AVS stating that maybe my PJ was a lemon. In reality, it was the screen. Sticking a wrapped up paper towel smack in the middle of the screen (in the back) took care of my picture deformity issues. It's not perfect, but it's acceptable.

In retrosepct, I would have spent the extra money and skipped XY altogether and go for the Vividstorm electric screen. No issues with tension or mounting or anything else.
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https://www.avsforum.com/forum/23-sc...l#post58271746



I have the Azure 120" and I would have to agree that the frame is of very low quality. When it arrived, I made a huge ruckus on AVS stating that maybe my PJ was a lemon. In reality, it was the screen. Sticking a wrapped up paper towel smack in the middle of the screen (in the back) took care of my picture deformity issues. It's not perfect, but it's acceptable.



In retrosepct, I would have spent the extra money and skipped XY altogether and go for the Vividstorm electric screen. No issues with tension or mounting or anything else.
Can you post some pics of your setup if possible please?

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This post will highlight the differences for you:

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/23-sc...l#post58271746

I have the Azure 120" and I would have to agree that the frame is of very low quality. When it arrived, I made a huge ruckus on AVS stating that maybe my PJ was a lemon. In reality, it was the screen. Sticking a wrapped up paper towel smack in the middle of the screen (in the back) took care of my picture deformity issues. It's not perfect, but it's acceptable.

In retrosepct, I would have spent the extra money and skipped XY altogether and go for the Vividstorm electric screen. No issues with tension or mounting or anything else.
This was the info I was looking for, almost went for the Azure but now I am leaning towards to pay the extra $300 and go for XY.
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Can anyone know why i see a light frame ? i try move the pj very close to the wall to see if it help but i always see this light frame above the screen
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Can anyone know why i see a light frame ? i try move the pj very close to the wall to see if it help but i always see this light frame above the screen
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It looks like it is shining through the screen onto the wall behind it. Try putting a black sheet or something that blocks light onto the back of the screen.
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It’s a known problem of the DLP 0.47 chip.
The Optoma UHZ65UST has the same problem.
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The Fengmi is the same exact projector as the Xiaomi with bumped up brightness, suffers from the same problems. The Vava looks good but is a bit too expensive for me. I’m leaning towards it but would have to save up for it. Never mind it’s not even Native 4k.. Any other models coming out?


Not true. The Fengmi has a different larger housing that seems to have corrected the problem with the cooling fan ribbon cable being crimped inside the previously cramped housing. Also the extra room inside increases airflow reducing heat and noise. Lastly, the Fengmi has a physical power button.
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The Fengmi is the same exact projector as the Xiaomi with bumped up brightness, suffers from the same problems. The Vava looks good but is a bit too expensive for me. I’️m leaning towards it but would have to save up for it. Never mind it’️s not even Native 4k.. Any other models coming out?


Not true. The Fengmi has a different larger housing that seems to have corrected the problem with the cooling fan ribbon cable being crimped inside the previously cramped housing. Also the extra room inside increases airflow reducing heat and noise. Lastly, the Fengmi has a physical power button.
Oh ok, maybe that’s the model I will look for. Do you know what HDCP it has and will it block 4K steaming from some devices?
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I have a Xiaomi robot vacuum that I'm pretty happy with, so I was glad to see Xiaomi has a 4k projector!

I'm in the process of setting up a home theater in the basement of my new house, but it looks like it's going to be challenging to get an HDMI cable from the components by the screen back to behind the couch in the ceiling. I think the ceiling joists run perpendicular to the cable run that I need to do, so it would be very challenging.

But a UST projector may be just the ticket! Unless anyone has a workaround for perpendicular ceiling joists...

My question is:

Can these (Xiaomi/Fengmi/Vava) be mounted to the ceiling without any problems?
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Oh ok, maybe that’s the model I will look for. Do you know what HDCP it has and will it block 4K steaming from some devices?


I don’t have the projector myself. According to all the reviews I’ve read there is no issue with HDCP from external sources, it’s the built in android os that doesn’t support HDCP.
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Heads up, it's Singles Day in China which means there may be major sales on these chinese projectors.

Prices on Aliexpress look to be about $300 cheaper than when I checked yesterday. Any had luck ordering from Aliex?
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I am considering buying this Xiaomi Mijia 4K projector or a Benq HT3550/W2700. The Xiaomi would be a lot easier to setup but I wonder if the picture quality is worse?
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I can't comment on the Azure screen but i do now the XY Screen and their service was fantastic and the screen made a difference when i compared to my test on a white wall to using the screen.

It would also depend on where you plan on using the screen because from what i understand, if you use it solely in the dark or dark room then a cheaper screen would work just as well, i'm happy to be proved wrong though

Don't forget that even in a pitch black room you'll get better brightness and perceived contrasts with a CLR/ALR screen because it has a negative gain ( better blacks) and it blocks light reflections from the projector/screen.

I was amazed to witness this myself, but if you really need to see it for yourself like I did, buy some samples from XY (super cheap and fast; pay shipping only). There's no kidding yourself and no going back when you see the difference.
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Don't forget that even in a pitch black room you'll get better brightness and perceived contrasts with a CLR/ALR screen because it has a negative gain ( better blacks) and it blocks light reflections from the projector/screen.

I was amazed to witness this myself, but if you really need to see it for yourself like I did, buy some samples from XY (super cheap and fast; pay shipping only). There's no kidding yourself and no going back when you see the difference.
Yeah very true, it really does come into its own in a dark room. Being from the UK and with the clocks recently changing it is one of the plus points of dark nights.
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