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Ouch, that translates to >100ms in all modes? Think this excludes the Xiaomi for Apache Legends then. Would the Vava or 4K version be any different?
Will check with a different Hdmi hub, while playing my switch the lag doesn't actually seem that high.
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Might just be his camera, but it seems like there is a lot of clipping of the colors.
Yeah, colours look way oversaturated...they have admitted it was a non-professional shooting so might be the camera used (fingers crossed!)

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Ouch, that translates to >100ms in all modes? Think this excludes the Xiaomi for Apache Legends then. Would the Vava or 4K version be any different?
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Attached some screenshots, tested using my MacBook pro at 4k and 1080p. (This is with the projector set to game mode and at the specified refresh rate)

So we seem to be getting conflicting information and I feel I can shed some light.

First off here is the quote from somebody who owns this device that tested latency:

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I have used your link to test the input lag for gaming and it shows 15,3 ms, i will do more tests further.
The test used was this: https://www.testufo.com/mprt

What I think happened to cause the confusion is that the Macbook was most likely using a lower refresh rate or bandwidth (it happens all the time) and that tends to create such huge delay numbers.
I would feel better if we used a different device to test ideally a console. If we could get somebody to record using the console controller pressing a button and seeing the change on screen, then we could count the frames and that would give us a real world result of latency.

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So we seem to be getting conflicting information and I feel I can shed some light.

First off here is the quote from somebody who owns this device that tested latency:



The test used was this: https://www.testufo.com/mprt

What I think happened to cause the confusion is that the Macbook was most likely using a lower refresh rate or bandwidth (it happens all the time) and that tends to create such huge delay numbers.
I would feel better if we used a different device to test ideally a console. If we could get somebody to record using the console controller pressing a button and seeing the change on screen, then we could count the frames and that would give us a real world result of latency.
This was done on a 2018 MacBook pro that allows you to set the Refresh rate, again it measures the difference between one stop watch and what's being displayed. One Issue I can think of is the HDMI adapter causing the lag, but that's something I'll double check once I get a new output hub.
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This was done on a 2018 MacBook pro that allows you to set the Refresh rate, again it measures the difference between one stop watch and what's being displayed. One Issue I can think of is the HDMI adapter causing the lag, but that's something I'll double check once I get a new output hub.
I understand what you are saying but keep in mind that just setting the refresh rate means nothing. For example the GPU will dictate the bandwidth it uses and the color. For example if it picks 4:4:4 it will most likely bottleneck depending on your supporting hardware. You can overclock it and that can help but for speed purposes going with a lower setup will be more beneficial.

Do you have any consoles like a ps4, xbox one etc to test with?

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I have used your link to test the input lag for gaming and it shows 15,3 ms, i will do more tests further.
Hi,

I am looking to purchase it tomorrow online ( i live in the US), appreciate if you can let me know how this performs in ambient light. I heard that these are very good projectors and will not wash out even if there are a few lights on or some daylight coming in. Can you clarify? Anything else I should watch out for or expect?

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I am looking to purchase it tomorrow online ( i live in the US), appreciate if you can let me know how this performs in ambient light. I heard that these are very good projectors and will not wash out even if there are a few lights on or some daylight coming in. Can you clarify? Anything else I should watch out for or expect?



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I am looking to purchase it tomorrow online ( i live in the US), appreciate if you can let me know how this performs in ambient light. I heard that these are very good projectors and will not wash out even if there are a few lights on or some daylight coming in. Can you clarify? Anything else I should watch out for or expect?

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Some ambient light won't cause any issues I'm using black out blinds that still allow some light to leak in and it looks amazing but did purchase a special ALR screen just in case.
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I have used your link to test the input lag for gaming and it shows 15,3 ms, i will do more tests further.
Hi,

I am looking to purchase it tomorrow online ( i live in the US), appreciate if you can let me know how this performs in ambient light. I heard that these are very good projectors and will not wash out even if there are a few lights on or some daylight coming in. Can you clarify? Anything else I should watch out for or expect?

Thanks
I had an LG OLED 55 B8 and been checking YouTube and and this thread regularly to make up my mind.

I ended up selling my TV and got this projector and I cannot insist on how good the quality of the image or video projected.

I am a Call of Duty die hard online gamer on PS4 Pro and I see no difference in my online gaming at all.

You will need to buy a proper screen for it and you are good to go. Mine is XY Screen 120”.

No picture nor video will do justice for it but giving up my LG OLED B8 for it has no regrets rather than full satisfaction.

Hope that helps.
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Thanks. I was thinking of the Wemax earlier with 7K lumens but the 4K has 5K. I will be able to use only a foldable screen so not many options i guess. Also my room has ambient light and though I can control it I intend to "almost" replace my tv with this projector so don't want to go through the process of pulling down the blinds ad turning off the lights everytime i intend to watch this. Any thoughts? Is the brightness comparable to the woman one pro 7K lumens?
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I had an LG OLED 55 B8 and been checking YouTube and and this thread regularly to make up my mind.

I ended up selling my TV and got this projector and I cannot insist on how good the quality of the image or video projected.

I am a Call of Duty die hard online gamer on PS4 Pro and I see no difference in my online gaming at all.

You will need to buy a proper screen for it and you are good to go. Mine is XY Screen 120”.

No picture nor video will do justice for it but giving up my LG OLED B8 for it has no regrets rather than full satisfaction.

Hope that helps.
I am actually coming from a C8 and currently thinking about options. Are you happy with the input lag on the projector and COD online? No lag or delay?
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Thanks. I was thinking of the Wemax earlier with 7K lumens but the 4K has 5K. I will be able to use only a foldable screen so not many options i guess. Also my room has ambient light and though I can control it I intend to "almost" replace my tv with this projector so don't want to go through the process of pulling down the blinds ad turning off the lights everytime i intend to watch this. Any thoughts? Is the brightness comparable to the woman one pro 7K lumens?
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I never had an UST projector so I cannot tell the difference, I’m really happy with the purchase.


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I had an LG OLED 55 B8 and been checking YouTube and and this thread regularly to make up my mind.

I ended up selling my TV and got this projector and I cannot insist on how good the quality of the image or video projected.

I am a Call of Duty die hard online gamer on PS4 Pro and I see no difference in my online gaming at all.

You will need to buy a proper screen for it and you are good to go. Mine is XY Screen 120”.

No picture nor video will do justice for it but giving up my LG OLED B8 for it has no regrets rather than full satisfaction.

Hope that helps.
I am actually coming from a C8 and currently thinking about options. Are you happy with the input lag on the projector and COD online? No lag or delay?
No lag and no delay, I’m prestige level 8 if that rings any bells.
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Wowzers that looks AMAZING and is exactly the look I want to go for. I too have an OLED 65" and would love to sell it and just have the projector. So much less space and easier to move around. Would you say the PET Crystal Screen is essential? Are they heavy/easy to break/damage etc?

Please post more pics or a vid? HDR? 4K
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Xiaomi MIJIA Laser Projector 4K version with 4K resolution launched.

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Wowzers that looks AMAZING and is exactly the look I want to go for. I too have an OLED 65" and would love to sell it and just have the projector. So much less space and easier to move around. Would you say the PET Crystal Screen is essential? Are they heavy/easy to break/damage etc?



Please post more pics or a vid? HDR? 4K


Yes, I would say the PET crystal is essential for ambient light viewing, make sure to get the correct one though -> the one with fine horizontal lines, not black crystal one, Chinese websites often promote the wrong type for use with Xiaomi projectors.
The material is indeed delicate and I would suggest wearing medical gloves for installation as greasy fingers will make marks. It is very lightweight but sturdy.

Also after a few months of watching different types of video on my Wemax one pro I would suggest turning HDR from your sources to off, because the projector has some really strange pinkish tones in HDR mode and can’t seem to reach the full color sprectrum, it actually looks a lot better in non-hdr mode imo. 4k input on the other hand looks way better than 1080p input.


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Yes, I would say the PET crystal is essential for ambient light viewing, make sure to get the correct one though -> the one with fine horizontal lines, not black crystal one, Chinese websites often promote the wrong type for use with Xiaomi projectors.
The material is indeed delicate and I would suggest wearing medical gloves for installation as greasy fingers will make marks. It is very lightweight but sturdy.

Also after a few months of watching different types of video on my Wemax one pro I would suggest turning HDR from your sources to off, because the projector has some really strange pinkish tones in HDR mode and can’t seem to reach the full color sprectrum, it actually looks a lot better in non-hdr mode imo. 4k input on the other hand looks way better than 1080p input.


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On my Xiaomi 1st gen (White non international version) has the same issue with HDR only instead of pinkish mine looks like white washed. All colors are much more white to the point that it looks disgusting. So HDR off is a must.

Can somebody with the new 4K version confirm if this is still an issue?

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I believe there's no US seller for this projector so where are you guys buying it from and is there a warranty or you are using your credit cards to cover the warranty.

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I believe there's no US seller for this projector so where are you guys buying it from and is there a warranty or you are using your credit cards to cover the warranty.

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Technically it looks like VAVA https://www. vava .com/p/VA-LT002
Is using the guts from the Xiaomi projector but we dont know 100%. There is a huge similarity in the hardware so if I had to bet it is the same internals.
They have changed the speakers and up until recently the remote was the same one as Xiaomi but now it looks like they put a different shell on it.

They also added another $1000 on the MSRP unless you buy from indiegogo (I never found the listing but others say it exist). The Indigogo listing is supposed to be $2500.

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Thanks for your screen recommandations. I think I will get the Pet Crystal one. I'm having trouble differentiating between the "black crystal one" or the one with the horizontal lines, I don't want to make a mistake. Any hints ?
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Very nice. Is 9-10 feet back from a 100" screen too ridiculous in an apartment? Opinions? Will I miss my 65" oled?

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Very nice. Is 9-10 feet back from a 100" screen too ridiculous in an apartment? Opinions? Will I miss my 65" oled?
No, I watch at 120" at 10 feet. Expensive, but totally awesome. No, unless you have a fetish to watch movies in bright light.
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I had an LG OLED 55 B8 and been checking YouTube and and this thread regularly to make up my mind.

I ended up selling my TV and got this projector and I cannot insist on how good the quality of the image or video projected.

I am a Call of Duty die hard online gamer on PS4 Pro and I see no difference in my online gaming at all.

You will need to buy a proper screen for it and you are good to go. Mine is XY Screen 120”.

No picture nor video will do justice for it but giving up my LG OLED B8 for it has no regrets rather than full satisfaction.

Hope that helps.
Do you have white walls? Does the XY screen help mitigate reflections if you have white walls?
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looks like there are some news from Vava 4K projector (Western version of Xiaomi 4K version) on their FB page

Launch date: 30th April 2019

Price: $2.5k (via indiegogo)

Specs/info here:
https://www.vava.com/p/VA-LT002

First teaser/unboxing/preview video here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHvS...GAohmwg2cBErmg


Thoughts? Worth to wait for the Optoma and LG USTs to step into the game?

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The retail is $3500 so it doesn't belong in this forum and there's already a dedicated thread for this Vava projector in the above $3500 forum! Please stop posting about this projector here.
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I had an LG OLED 55 B8 and been checking YouTube and and this thread regularly to make up my mind.

I ended up selling my TV and got this projector and I cannot insist on how good the quality of the image or video projected.

I am a Call of Duty die hard online gamer on PS4 Pro and I see no difference in my online gaming at all.

You will need to buy a proper screen for it and you are good to go. Mine is XY Screen 120”.

No picture nor video will do justice for it but giving up my LG OLED B8 for it has no regrets rather than full satisfaction.

Hope that helps.
Do you have white walls? Does the XY screen help mitigate reflections if you have white walls?
I’m posting 2 pictures for my PET XY screen in sunlight, not ambient, and at night. The picture reflected is dark but yes it helps mitigate the reflection.
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Thanks for your screen recommandations. I think I will get the Pet Crystal one. I'm having trouble differentiating between the "black crystal one" or the one with the horizontal lines, I don't want to make a mistake. Any hints ?


You need the one with horizontal lines!


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The tradeoff is always there. If you got a light controlled room then go with the white fixed frame screen (i would suggest Elite screen Sable 2 series with 1.1 gain).

And if there is a lot of ambient light then get the gray or darker screens. But obvioulsy at night time in total darkness you will loose brightness and punch and overall the picture will be darker.

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Thanks for your screen recommandations. I think I will get the Pet Crystal one. I'm having trouble differentiating between the "black crystal one" or the one with the horizontal lines, I don't want to make a mistake. Any hints ?



the black crystal is a flat screen. you want to go for the PET alr screen ... do you have a contact for xy screens ? wendy chou is a good one ... i have her wahts app if you need it . Ive had the PET ALR for UST projectors int he past and now i have a long throqw projector with Black crystl screen.


I might be able to get you a discount if i speak to wendy as i have bought two screens already

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the black crystal is a flat screen. you want to go for the PET alr screen ... do you have a contact for xy screens ? wendy chou is a good one ... i have her wahts app if you need it . Ive had the PET ALR for UST projectors int he past and now i have a long throqw projector with Black crystl screen.


I might be able to get you a discount if i speak to wendy as i have bought two screens already
That would be great ! I do not have a contact atm from xy screens. Thanks a lot DivineMoshka. And thank you Sonny2160p for the clarification.
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That would be great ! I do not have a contact atm from xy screens. Thanks a lot DivineMoshka. And thank you Sonny2160p for the clarification.



Yovel ... private message me with your whatsapp phone number and i will set you up with XY Screens .... how big is the screen you want 100" or 120" ? XY Screens can be any size including 110" they are less than other screens price wise but are really great.

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I've been in contact with both Wendy and August at xy-screen and was not impressed with their professionalism. They are apparently colleagues, but use email addresses with different domains. They sent me a link to a screen that cost almost as much as the projector and was pulled from Amazon (https://www.amazon.com/120-inch-Reje.../dp/B07KB11HJQ). When I told Wendy my budget for a projector screen she laughed in my face with this classy reply: "Your budget is $300USD ??????????????"

Projecting onto my beige wall already looks spectacular to me, and I doubt paying $1000+ will improve the picture quality 1000 times.
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