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That's great, thank you!

Somehow when I was doing the math in my head I concluded the slower color wheel wouldn't allow the desired number of flashes per eye, especially when I factored in some kind of requirement that subframes happen in multiples of 4, but apparently it's simpler than all that. Can't wait to see it for myself..

.. in May or maybe June .. after all the insanity dies down a little ..

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That's great, thank you!

Somehow when I was doing the math in my head I concluded the slower color wheel wouldn't allow the desired number of flashes per eye, especially when I factored in some kind of requirement that subframes happen in multiples of 4, but apparently it's simpler than all that. Can't wait to see it for myself..

.. in May or maybe June .. after all the insanity dies down a little ..

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The wheel normally spins at 120Hz. With the HT3550 you can essentially double that to 240Hz as you get two full RGB passes (RGBRGB wheel) for each full rotation of the wheel. What the HT3550 does with 24fps content is reduce the wheel speed to 96Hz for an effective color wheel ‘speed’ of 192Hz. While his is slower than the effective 240Hz you get with 60Hz content, it is still much faster than the 120Hz you get with the vast majority of ‘2X’ DLPs. Examples of 2X DLPs are the UHD60, HD27HDR, TH671ST, HD143x, MH530FHD, PJD7828HDL, GT1080Darbee, etc.
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when is the ht5550 coming out?
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Will the black level beat my Epson 5030?
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when is the ht5550 coming out?

IIRC rumor mill had an April or May release date, not too long now.

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Will the black level beat my Epson 5030?
No. The HT3550 will bridge the gap between last year's DLP's and Epson's UB line. Which is a good thing. But it won't have the same black levels as an Epson UB.

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how much will it be? An which one is better ht5550 or the ht3550?
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how much will it be? An which one is better ht5550 or the ht3550?
HT3550’s $1,499 and HT5550 is $2,499

The “which one is better” is completely subjective and a question you need to provide more context for a proper answer. What’s is your room? Viewing habits? Dark room? Light room? Gamer? Heavy gamer? Do you watch sports? 4K content? Etc etc

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3D is always native 24fps as the projector runs in a special 1080p 3D mode.
The specs state that the color wheel speed for 3D is 120hz. Can you explain technically how the 24p is produced?
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ht3550’s $1,499 and ht5550 is $2,499

the “which one is better” is completely subjective and a question you need to provide more context for a proper answer. What’s is your room? Viewing habits? Dark room? Light room? Gamer? Heavy gamer? Do you watch sports? 4k content? Etc etc
my room is dark and i will be watching movies , some 4k content,netflix and cable.
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The specs state that the color wheel speed for 3D is 120hz. Can you explain technically how the 24p is produced?


240Hz (120Hz x 2 rgb) / 48Hz = 5

5X is the colorwheel speed for 24fps content in 1080p. Essentially 5 subframes for every full frame of 24fps (48Hz) content. In 3D some of those subframes are the DLP link flash.

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my room is dark and i will be watching movies , some 4k content,netflix and cable.
Any placement limitations? The HT5550 will be better overall but whether it is $1,000 better is subjective to the buyer.

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BenQ HT3550 True 4K Home Cinema Projector Review

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Scott will soon be able to compare these two but my guess is the HT5550 should be well worth the upgrade in price. From what I saw in New York the lens is sharper plus you get the added lens shift and zoom which is always a plus. Color was excellent and looks to be a degree beyond what the HT3550 can manage. This is what excited me the most. I might be in the minority here but I consider DCI-P3 coverage to be a big selling feature if you’re buying today. BenQ has pushed the envelope for what you can expect for color gamut coverage in this price range.
In addition, the iris is more sophisticated on the HT5550 but we’ll have to see how that shakes out in real world use. Contrast is said to be higher and blacks deeper on the HT5550 but I would need to see them side by side to comment here. They use the same DMD so any improvements would be credit to BenQ’s lens and chassis design.

All in all, the Ht3550 is a phenomenal projector but the Ht5550 is clearly a step up. The big difference comes down to competition. The HT3550 would be my hands down top pick in it’s price range— it simply offers the most compelling combination of performance and features anywhere near the price. The HT5550 is in a tougher segment and I can’t say for sure how it will compete against it’s peers.
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240Hz (120Hz x 2 rgb) / 48Hz = 5

5X is the colorwheel speed for 24fps content in 1080p. Essentially 5 subframes for every full frame of 24fps (48Hz) content. In 3D some of those subframes are the DLP link flash.
Could you verify with Benq about the native 24p for 3D? 120hz is normally used with 3:2 pulldown to create a double flash of 60hz (30 frames of left and of right). The Benq w1070 used 144hz to create a triple flash of 24 frames (of left and of right). 5x is an odd number, that is why I am confused by it. L-R, L-R, than L? That would not create smooth motion. You stated that some of the frames are the DLP link flash but I have never come across the flash as being accounted for in the equation since it does not exist for the length of a full frame, only in between frames during the blanking interval. I think also maybe the use of the term "subframe" should be used only in reference to the creation of 4k resolution by the 1080 chip since that is when the chip is displaying a partial frame and not to the repeats of whole frames because it starts getting too confusing.
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NO...placement limitations
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Scott will soon be able to compare these two but my guess is the HT5550 should be well worth the upgrade in price. From what I saw in New York the lens is sharper plus you get the added lens shift and zoom which is always a plus. Color was excellent and looks to be a degree beyond what the HT3550 can manage. This is what excited me the most. I might be in the minority here but I consider DCI-P3 coverage to be a big selling feature if you’re buying today. BenQ has pushed the envelope for what you can expect for color gamut coverage in this price range.
In addition, the iris is more sophisticated on the HT5550 but we’ll have to see how that shakes out in real world use. Contrast is said to be higher and blacks deeper on the HT5550 but I would need to see them side by side to comment here. They use the same DMD so any improvements would be credit to BenQ’s lens and chassis design.

All in all, the Ht3550 is a phenomenal projector but the Ht5550 is clearly a step up. The big difference comes down to competition. The HT3550 would be my hands down top pick in it’s price range— it simply offers the most compelling combination of performance and features anywhere near the price. The HT5550 is in a tougher segment and I can’t say for sure how it will compete against it’s peers.
ONE MORe QUESTION SHOULD I JUST BUY A LAMP FOR MY BENQ W1070 AND BE Patient and wait for either the ht3550 or the 5550? I was going to buy the sony 45ES but i think one of these would be better for the money.
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ONE MORe QUESTION SHOULD I JUST BUY A LAMP FOR MY BENQ W1070 AND BE Patient and wait for either the ht3550 or the 5550? I was going to buy the sony 45ES but i think one of these would be better for the money.
My recommendation: Just wait for like 1-2 weeks and get the HT3550 form a place with good return policy. If you aren't sufficiently impressed then get the HT5550. I wouldn't invest in a brand new 1080p projector in this day and age. Sony will have better blacks than these two but just everything else is better on the BenQ's for the money.

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My recommendation: Just wait for like 1-2 weeks and get the HT3550 form a place with good return policy. If you aren't sufficiently impressed then get the HT5550. I wouldn't invest in a brand new 1080p projector in this day and age. Sony will have better blacks than these two but just everything else is better on the BenQ's for the money.
when are these projectors coming out?
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Could you verify with Benq about the native 24p for 3D? 120hz is normally used with 3:2 pulldown to create a double flash of 60hz (30 frames of left and of right). The Benq w1070 used 144hz to create a triple flash of 24 frames (of left and of right). 5x is an odd number, that is why I am confused by it. L-R, L-R, than L? That would not create smooth motion. You stated that some of the frames are the DLP link flash but I have never come across the flash as being accounted for in the equation since it does not exist for the length of a full frame, only in between frames during the blanking interval. I think also maybe the use of the term "subframe" should be used only in reference to the creation of 4k resolution by the 1080 chip since that is when the chip is displaying a partial frame and not to the repeats of whole frames because it starts getting too confusing.


I can ask but last time I asked I was told: exactly like the HT2050.

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Here are some measures:

Gamut with Filter :

https://www.noelshack.com/2019-13-4-...mut-etendu.jpg

Input lay 4K and 1080P :

https://www.noelshack.com/2019-13-4-...benq-w2700.jpg

the image accuracy is exemplary

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I currently have an Epson 6500UB and was considering the 4010 ($1799) or the 5040UB ($1999 w/extra bulb). But the HT3550 looks interesting. I have my theater in an unfinished (as of right now) basement that could have very little to no ambient light. I currently have a 100" DIY screen but I am looking at the 110" or 120" Silver Ticket screen. Currently the projector is on a shelf behind the seats which are about 11' from the screen. I do have flexibility in where I place/mount the projector.



I will be primarily watching blu-ray/4k blu-ray, streaming Amazon prime and watching sports. Some interest in 3D but will not be doing any gaming. When watching sports I would probably have some ambient lighting. Thoughts on the HT3550 vs. the Epsons?



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5040ub is available as a refurb from Epson for $1151 right now. That seems to make things interesting against the 3550. Were there any comparisons made between the two?

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That’s a super good deal but I personally cannot stomach considering a projector with that 10gbps chipset.

I made comparisons to the Epson 4000 but not the 5040 as I have not had that projector before.

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The BenQ W2700 review is online :

http://www.passionhomecinema.fr/blog...is-de-gregory/

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Awesome and very thorough review. And I know I’m not the only one who appreciates you including the English translation. Thanks, Greg!

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Any chance of getting an english translation for your TW9400 review?
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Hi, Kraine's review suggests that the HT3550 has substantially lower light output than the HT2550; does this match your impressions?
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Hi, Kraine's review suggests that the HT3550 has substantially lower light output than the HT2550; does this match your impressions?


Only in the D Cinema and HDR10/Wide Color ON modes. In standard Cinema/Vivid it is bright enough in ECO lamp to compete with some ambient light.

Keep in mind 2 things:
1: I believe Greg took his measurements post calibration. I am not a calibrator and so made only small adjustments to the out-of-box settings. Calibration often reduces light output dramatically. This appears to be born out in his testing as the D Cinema mode was not that much dimmer than his Cinema measurements. Considering other testers have seen as much as a 40/50% drop in lumen output between non filtered and filtered modes I would say that his calibration must have had an impact here.

2. My screen is small. 100” 1.1 gain. I don’t need a ton of output even in my less than ideal (NOT bat cave) environment.

So, no, with the filter disengaged I did not see a dramatic difference between this and the HT2550 even when they were side by side. I DID, however see a fairly substantial drop in lumens from the Ht2050A. The 1080p projector is brighter than both the HT2550 and HT3550.

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Hey sage, have you had a chance to complete your full comparison review between the HT3550 and the HT2050a? I recall seeing some pictures between the two, and some posts here and there, but maybe I missed the full review. Post #2 in this Thread still shows Reserved for that Comparison.

That's still my big variable before deciding if I want to give this a try.

Thanks,
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