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Ouch of course something new and better comes out just a month after I buy my very first projector ever - the optoma UHD 51 haha

So I’m guessing this will be Ben Q’s offering in the budget 4K space for this year?

I want to see what Epson will replace the 5040UB with and what Optoma will replace the UHD 60 before trying to decide which direction to go
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Ouch of course something new and better comes out just a month after I buy my very first projector ever - the optoma UHD 51 haha

So I’m guessing this will be Ben Q’s offering in the budget 4K space for this year?

I want to see what Epson will replace the 5040UB with and what Optoma will replace the UHD 60 before trying to decide which direction to go
For Benq there will be an upgraded version of the TK800 (the TK800M), for the EU only an upgrade to the W1700 (W1720), and a high lumen version of the HT3550.

The upgrade of the 5040UB should be the 5050UB, which should be announced in the near future. In the EU it's already been released as the TW 9400, there are a few reviews on it.
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Ouch of course something new and better comes out just a month after I buy my very first projector ever - the optoma UHD 51 haha



So I’m guessing this will be Ben Q’s offering in the budget 4K space for this year?



I want to see what Epson will replace the 5040UB with and what Optoma will replace the UHD 60 before trying to decide which direction to go


Technically this will be BenQ’s mid level projector. The TK800 and replacement TK800M will be the entry level 4K models.

It makes sense that Epson would replace the 5040UB. But it’s curious that over the course of that projector’s life we’ve seen the introduction of the 4000/4040, the subsequent discontinuation of the 4000/4040, and then the introduction of the 4010/4050. Makes me wonder what is taking so long and what Epson might have in store for it’s flagship model.

I’m not sure I would count on a replacement for the UHD60. In a way, the UHD51aLV is the replacement for the UHD60.

The HT3550 is the most compelling of the 4K DLPs I’ve seen thus far. It can get bright enough for media rooms and some ambient light while offering factory calibrated dark room picture modes that make this arguably the best affordable 4K projector for critical viewing in a theater space. Plus it’s the only projector anywhere near this price range to offer real DCI-P3 capability— the only other model being the Epson 4010 which retails for $500 more— which makes it a game changer in this space. Oh, and we finally got a DLP with a dynamic iris.

Only time will tell how the market responds but it’s hard to argue with the performance and value that BenQ has made available here. One things for sure: It’s a good time to be shopping for a projector.

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Ouch of course something new and better comes out just a month after I buy my very first projector ever - the optoma UHD 51 haha

So I’m guessing this will be Ben Q’s offering in the budget 4K space for this year?

I want to see what Epson will replace the 5040UB with and what Optoma will replace the UHD 60 before trying to decide which direction to go
For Benq there will be an upgraded version of the TK800 (the TK800M), for the EU only an upgrade to the W1700 (W1720), and a high lumen version of the HT3550.

The upgrade of the 5040UB should be the 5050UB, which should be announced in the near future. In the EU it's already been released as the TW 9400, there are a few reviews on it.
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Is it coming bright version of ht3550/w2700? When? Any specs?
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Is it coming bright version of ht3550/w2700? When? Any specs?
Later this year. Probably will have a white color segment on the color wheel, which usually means more lumens but less color accuracy. No other details yet, sage11x made a mention of it, but that's it.

LE: This increased brightness is really only available in an Bright mode for lights on viewing, which is very inaccurate. Watching it on the Cinema mode (which is the most accurate) the lumens output is the same or lower as an RGBRGB color wheel projector (such as the 3550). Cinema mode in an non RGBRGB color wheen is inferior to a Cinema mode RGBRGB color wheel.

Previous to my current Benq (RGBRGB color wheel, 2000 lumens) I had an 3200 lumens Optoma with RGBCYW color wheel.
The image quality was inferior to the Benq.
The Benq is plenty bright.
The only reason you would want an non RGBRGB color wheel is if you watched a lot of lights on content. Or HDR, which requires higher lumens, but also needs to be color accurate.
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Yes some who are sensitive with RBE certainly need a neck brace! Have no owners of the 3550 here never seen a rainbow when using it?
I've a JVC and the BenQ ht2050. I do see RBE on the BenQ but I can live with it, not DW. Optoma is not watchable. LCD is not an option for me since I had Epson, Panny and Sanyo before.
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Took some measurement of my living room; Wall to Wall about 11' 6" or 11'8". My 120" White 1.1 Elite Roll Down Screen does Roll in front of my TV this will make -10", so I will end with 10' 10" and need to take into account space for Cable management (Projector), by your experience, if I go with the TH3550 to match my 120" Screen, do you think is viable ? or is too close to tell ?


I may be able to squeeze or gain 1/2 to 1 " and believe Size is closer to 11'8", etc.
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Took some measurement of my living room; Wall to Wall about 11' 6" or 11'8". My 120" White 1.1 Elite Roll Down Screen does Roll in front of my TV this will make -10", so I will end with 10' 10" and need to take into account space for Cable management (Projector), by your experience, if I go with the TH3550 to match my 120" Screen, do you think is viable ? or is too close to tell ?


I may be able to squeeze or gain 1/2 to 1 " and believe Size is closer to 11'8", etc.


You should be able to target a 120” screen from that distance. Assuming you’re telling me your throw is 10 ft 10 in.


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You should be able to target a 120” screen from that distance. Assuming you’re telling me your throw is 10 ft 10 in.


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No, 10'10" without the Projector, it is why I'm asking... You had the TH3550 and I need to discount Projector Size and Cables. by your experience. what do you think ?
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No, 10'10" without the Projector, it is why I'm asking... You had the TH3550 and I need to discount Projector Size and Cables. by your experience. what do you think ?
9'10" is the minimum distance from the lens to the screen for a 120" image.

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9'10" is the minimum distance from the lens to the screen for a 120" image.

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Tanks, however I'm still in limbo. Different approach; my experience is from BenQ W1080ST with 1.69-0.89 Throw Ratio, so I always used in front of me, on Coffee Table, If I go with HT3550 will be my 1st time to go with a different Throw Ratio + Wall Installment.


Understand I need to Count Projector Size and Cables, how much I need to add ?


What about Projector Mounts, how much space can take from Wall to Projector ?


If I have 10' 10" from Wall to Screen, Then I only have 12" to Spare (Projector, Cables + Mount) and reach the minimum Throw Ratio (9' 10") required, will it work or not enough ?


Open to any suggestion and/or ideas.


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Tanks, however I'm still in limbo. Different approach; my experience is from BenQ W1080ST with 1.69-0.89 Throw Ratio, so I always used in front of me, on Coffee Table, If I go with HT3550 will be my 1st time to go with a different Throw Ratio + Wall Installment.


Understand I need to Count Projector Size and Cables, how much I need to add ?


What about Projector Mounts, how much space can take from Wall to Projector ?


If I have 10' 10" from Wall to Screen, Then I only have 12" to Spare (Projector, Cables + Mount) and reach the minimum Throw Ratio (9' 10") required, will it work or not enough ?


Open to any suggestion and/or ideas.


Thanks
It's 10.4" long. So you're looking at 9'8" from the wall to the lens. Add a couple inches for cable clearance. So 9'6". I use right angle connectors for mine to minimize the distance and cable stress. Mine is literally up against the window blinds.

So it's looking like you'd be just under 120".

That's my setup to give you an idea. I was thinking of putting the blinds inside the enxt window level and pushing the projector further back. Even putting a blackout decal of sorts on the upper window and dropping the blinds down to the lower half.

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If he has 10 feet 10 inches from one wall to the other, and the HT3550 is 10.4 inches long, doesn't that leave 9 feet 11.6 inches? Subtracting an inch for the cables still leaves 9 feet 10.6 inches - just enough to get a 120 inch screen.
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If he has 10 feet 10 inches from one wall to the other, and the HT3550 is 10.4 inches long, doesn't that leave 9 feet 11.6 inches? Subtracting an inch for the cables still leaves 9 feet 10.6 inches - just enough to get a 120 inch screen.
Yeah. My bad. Mixing up decimal points and apostrophes.. Haha. It's Friday. My math skills detiorate as the weekend approaches.

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Ouch of course something new and better comes out just a month after I buy my very first projector ever - the optoma UHD 51 haha



So I’m guessing this will be Ben Q’s offering in the budget 4K space for this year?



I want to see what Epson will replace the 5040UB with and what Optoma will replace the UHD 60 before trying to decide which direction to go
I have the W1070 and was waiting for this to replace W1070. I thought it wasnt coming soon enough so I decided to move everything back and get a larger screen 125 inch. I was close to buying the UHD51A until I realized this one was announced. Has someone done a comparison the UHD51 vs the H3550?

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I have the W1070 and was waiting for this to replace W1070. I thought it wasnt coming soon enough so I decided to move everything back and get a larger screen 125 inch. I was close to buying the UHD51A until I realized this one was announced. Has someone done a comparison the UHD51 vs the H3550?

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Not that I know of. I’m hoping projectorcentral will do one.

I’d be very interested to see how these two fare against one another. My gut tells me the BenQ, with it’s dynamic iris, HDR tone mapping and wide color capabilities is going to be a tough projector to match.

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I tried to buy Dr Strange in 3D and couldn’t find a copy for less than $50. Then I was surprised that COCO was either not released in 3D or simply not available. I’ll have to check out that sale.

Once I got to 4K... I like 3D, especially on DLP where crosstalk is virtually nonexistent. But if I had to choose between 3D and 4K/HDR I’m going 4K/HDR. I would still like to check out some new 3D titles but it annoys me that I would have to buy the movie in 4K AND in 3D. It would be nice if they offered a package with both 3d and 4K but I’ve yet to seen an example of that outside the lone Dredd release.
Hi, Sage. It's not surprising you couldn't find Coco. It is available from Europe and according to reviews the 3D is amazing. Can't wait to see as soon as I upgrade my projector. Disney has pretty much stopped releasing 3D in the US. So that means no Marvel, Pixar, or Star Wars movies are available as they are all owned by Disney. You can get imports on Amazon (and maybe Best Buy) of them, but there are no US versions. No idea why as the foreign versions sell. And I agree it sucks that you have to buy seperate versions of the 3D and 4K discs, ending up with two blu-ray copies. I have seen a copy released in Japan that has the 4k, 3D, and blu-ray copies in one package, but it is both rare and was a bit more expensive (around $90 as I recall). https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Aveng...lu-ray/209805/. Such are the trials and tribulations we non-streaming, physical media lovers must endure.
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Technically this will be BenQ’s mid level projector. The TK800 and replacement TK800M will be the entry level 4K models.

It makes sense that Epson would replace the 5040UB. But it’s curious that over the course of that projector’s life we’ve seen the introduction of the 4000/4040, the subsequent discontinuation of the 4000/4040, and then the introduction of the 4010/4050. Makes me wonder what is taking so long and what Epson might have in store for it’s flagship model.

I’m not sure I would count on a replacement for the UHD60. In a way, the UHD51aLV is the replacement for the UHD60.

The HT3550 is the most compelling of the 4K DLPs I’ve seen thus far. It can get bright enough for media rooms and some ambient light while offering factory calibrated dark room picture modes that make this arguably the best affordable 4K projector for critical viewing in a theater space. Plus it’s the only projector anywhere near this price range to offer real DCI-P3 capability— the only other model being the Epson 4010 which retails for $500 more— which makes it a game changer in this space. Oh, and we finally got a DLP with a dynamic iris.

Only time will tell how the market responds but it’s hard to argue with the performance and value that BenQ has made available here. One things for sure: It’s a good time to be shopping for a projector.
For 5040 replacement check out European 9400.

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Not that I know of. I’m hoping projectorcentral will do one.

I’d be very interested to see how these two fare against one another. My gut tells me the BenQ, with it’s dynamic iris, HDR tone mapping and wide color capabilities is going to be a tough projector to match.
I had 51A. Very poor on low light black level and contrast. Dark scenes were dark grey scenes.
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I had 51A. Very poor on low light black level and contrast. Dark scenes were dark grey scenes.
So this projector is cheaper and better than the UHD51A?

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Looking for opinions. I currently have a JVC x570, but I'm thinking about swapping it out for this Benq. I am space limited and have 12' from the back wall to the screen. The JVC can throw a max 106" screen size while the Benq should be able to throw up to 136" (shorter throw + less physical depth). Any thoughts on screen size (Benq) vs quality (JVC). I love the JVC, but if I can get a bigger screen size with close quality, I think it's a good trade.

Edit: We watch mostly 4k blu-rays and 3d blu-rays.
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Looking for opinions. I currently have a JVC x570, but I'm thinking about swapping it out for this Benq. I am space limited and have 12' from the back wall to the screen. The JVC can throw a max 106" screen size while the Benq should be able to throw up to 136" (shorter throw + less physical depth). Any thoughts on screen size (Benq) vs quality (JVC). I love the JVC, but if I can get a bigger screen size with close quality, I think it's a good trade.



Edit: We watch mostly 4k blu-rays and 3d blu-rays.
Same boat as me. I'm stuck at 100" and want to go 120 even if there are a few sacrifices. Could always turn the JVC around and try a mirror to enlarge the pic or the wide angle lens. I might play with that route since I don't have to make a decision yet. I did just get the 120" screen delivered. Was also looking at the HT2050A for a little over $500 to play with for a bit on the cheap.

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Looking for opinions. I currently have a JVC x570, but I'm thinking about swapping it out for this Benq. I am space limited and have 12' from the back wall to the screen. The JVC can throw a max 106" screen size while the Benq should be able to throw up to 136" (shorter throw + less physical depth). Any thoughts on screen size (Benq) vs quality (JVC). I love the JVC, but if I can get a bigger screen size with close quality, I think it's a good trade.



Edit: We watch mostly 4k blu-rays and 3d blu-rays.


Your JVC is is going to have much better contrast/blacks. Nothing in this price range is going to compete with your JVC on that front. Now, the BenQ has plenty going for it: it is crazy sharp, has excellent color, superb motion clarity and when it comes to 3D, IMO, DLP is the best in the business. But when you’re talking about the type of price difference that separates these two— $2500 by the way, that’s like a whole Epson 5040UB in between these two— contrast/blacks tend to dominate the conversation. As they should for a projector that costs more than 2.5 times as much.

While we’re on this subject [steps on soap box]...

Contrast/blacks are so integral to a projector’s price that it’s sometimes difficult to describe them in the context of a review. For me, I have to compare a projector against it’s peer group, i.e. what else can you get for this money. If we compared every projector sold against a JVC, which some members are want to do, then you’d never be able to talk about a projector’s performance here because it would just be: worse than JVC. Maybe this model is slightly worse or that model is much worse— you get the idea.

For 1500 dollars the HT3550 has good contrast. At this price point you won’t find much that will do better. The Epson 3100 which also has an iris does better on blacks but it has low ANSI contrast and, of course, it’s 1080p only and lacks HDR. None of BenQ’s own 4K projectors (HT2550, TK800) can compete and I expect the BenQ will top the Optoma UHD50/51a as well.

Stepping up in price you’ll find the Optoma UHD60. Contrast on the UHD60 is good although the HT3550’s advantages in color and dynamic iris make this an interesting comparison. The UHD60 doesn’t have the color of the HT3550 but speaking strictly about contrast— I’d need a head to head to decide. Further up we find the Epson 4010 which is the only other projector below $3000 to offer the color capabilities of the HT3550. The 4010 is a bit like a poor man’s JVC— that’s a compliment, btw— it has loads of features and has appropriate, serious HT heft. Although, and this is an important consideration, it lacks the resolution of the DLPs. I haven’t seen the 4010 but based on my memory of the 4000 the contrast was similar to that of the 3100 though the addition of HDR should make for a significant improvement here. The king of below $2000 contrast is still the SONY 45ES. It’s the only LCOS in this range but, like that 3100, it’s 1080p only.

So that’s where I’m at with the HT3550. If you’re in the market for a 4K projector for movies and tv, at it’s price I can’t think of anything that’s better. If you’re in the market with $1500 to spend: buy this. If you have more... stepping up in price is interesting because you will get more in some areas while losing in others. Unless you have a lot more to spend in which case: why are you here.

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Thanks Sage! That is a ton of good info and confirms the aspects of the decision

106"
better contrast & blacks
less sharp

(vs)

135"
lower contrast & blacks
sharper
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Your JVC is is going to have much better contrast/blacks. Nothing in this price range is going to compete with your JVC on that front. Now, the BenQ has plenty going for it: it is crazy sharp, has excellent color, superb motion clarity and when it comes to 3D, IMO, DLP is the best in the business. But when you’re talking about the type of price difference that separates these two— $2500 by the way, that’s like a whole Epson 5040UB in between these two— contrast/blacks tend to dominate the conversation. As they should for a projector that costs more than 2.5 times as much.

While we’re on this subject [steps on soap box]...

Contrast/blacks are so integral to a projector’s price that it’s sometimes difficult to describe them in the context of a review. For me, I have to compare a projector against it’s peer group, i.e. what else can you get for this money. If we compared every projector sold against a JVC, which some members are want to do, then you’d never be able to talk about a projector’s performance here because it would just be: worse than JVC. Maybe this model is slightly worse or that model is much worse— you get the idea.

For 1500 dollars the HT3550 has good contrast. At this price point you won’t find much that will do better. The Epson 3100 which also has an iris does better on blacks but it has low ANSI contrast and, of course, it’s 1080p only and lacks HDR. None of BenQ’s own 4K projectors (HT2550, TK800) can compete and I expect the BenQ will top the Optoma UHD50/51a as well.

Stepping up in price you’ll find the Optoma UHD60. Contrast on the UHD60 is good although the HT3550’s advantages in color and dynamic iris make this an interesting comparison. The UHD60 doesn’t have the color of the HT3550 but speaking strictly about contrast— I’d need a head to head to decide. Further up we find the Epson 4010 which is the only other projector below $3000 to offer the color capabilities of the HT3550. The 4010 is a bit like a poor man’s JVC— that’s a compliment, btw— it has loads of features and has appropriate, serious HT heft. Although, and this is an important consideration, it lacks the resolution of the DLPs. I haven’t seen the 4010 but based on my memory of the 4000 the contrast was similar to that of the 3100 though the addition of HDR should make for a significant improvement here. The king of below $2000 contrast is still the SONY 45ES. It’s the only LCOS in this range but, like that 3100, it’s 1080p only.

So that’s where I’m at with the HT3550. If you’re in the market for a 4K projector for movies and tv, at it’s price I can’t think of anything that’s better. If you’re in the market with $1500 to spend: buy this. If you have more... stepping up in price is interesting because you will get more in some areas while losing in others. Unless you have a lot more to spend in which case: why are you here.
Appreciate the info (really do), but I think you overlooked the reason why we're looking at the 3550. It's the short throw. It also throws your other mentions out the window. We're constrained by our room dimensions. There is no JVC or Sony that will give us a 120" pic at a sub 11' throw.

My room is 12x12 and my JVC pushes up against my blinds. Even taking the blinds out and pushing the jvc back to the window gets me to 106" maybe. Playing around with mirrors and wide angle lenses is an option, and I'm still going to look into it. But buying an eshift JVC still isn't going to make my room any bigger. Makes no sense for me to drop over $3k and stick to my 100" screen.

So I know I'll be making a sacrifice in black levels, but I'll gain greater immersion and color. Is it a trade off I'll be happy with? I won't know until I spend a weekend watching movies. For now I picked up my 120" screen, and will hopefully set it up this weekend and start tinkering with the JVC.

And I thought the 5040 did blacks better than the Sony 45ES. I'd like to see how the 3550 fairs against the 5040. With the 5040 I'd entertain a scope screen with its motorized everything and presets. But again, still hampered by room size.

Also a reason why I was looking at the 2050a. Can pick one up for $525 and get an idea of image quality. Assuming that's the 1080 equivalent of the 3550.

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Also a reason why I was looking at the 2050a. Can pick one up for $525 and get an idea of image quality. Assuming that's the 1080 equivalent of the 3550.

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Nope. BenQ direct refurb.
Makes me wonder if I do that on the cheap, will I be happy enough for a couple years. Maybe short throw will gain popularity in better models.

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Nope. BenQ direct refurb.
Makes me wonder if I do that on the cheap, will I be happy enough for a couple years. Maybe short throw will gain popularity in better models.

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Welcome. And speaking of options with Sage's comments above, Best Buy has open box 45ES's for as low as $1300.

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