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Is it already available? Pre-order is available on Amazon and says will be released on April 08. I have been waiting for HT3550 to be sorted and become available to buy but it has been going on for a while without any updates when a proper batch would be available. So now I am wondering if I can buy this instead?

My space is a loft so does have some ambient light coming through during day. Most watching will be in evenings and nights, movies and tv. No gaming or minimal gaming. I will try to add a black out curtain to block light.
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Is it already available? Pre-order is available on Amazon and says will be released on April 08. I have been waiting for HT3550 to be sorted and become available to buy but it has been going on for a while without any updates when a proper batch would be available. So now I am wondering if I can buy this instead?

My space is a loft so does have some ambient light coming through during day. Most watching will be in evenings and nights, movies and tv. No gaming or minimal gaming. I will try to add a black out curtain to block light.
TK800M is going to be available 'soon'

If you haven't already, check out post 35 where I do a pretty thorough run-down of how these two compare. Plain and simple, the TK800M is better for gaming and sports. The HT3550 is much better at HDR and all other content.

Truth be told is that I REALLY enjoy both projectors for their intended purposes. If you did a good amount of gaming or sports I would say go for the TK800M, However, where you are not gaming or watching sports, my strong recommendation is to wait for the HT3550. It will be worth it.

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Is it already available? Pre-order is available on Amazon and says will be released on April 08. I have been waiting for HT3550 to be sorted and become available to buy but it has been going on for a while without any updates when a proper batch would be available. So now I am wondering if I can buy this instead?

My space is a loft so does have some ambient light coming through during day. Most watching will be in evenings and nights, movies and tv. No gaming or minimal gaming. I will try to add a black out curtain to block light.
TK800M is going to be available 'soon'

If you haven't already, check out post 35 where I do a pretty thorough run-down of how these two compare. Plain and simple, the TK800M is better for gaming and sports. The HT3550 is much better at HDR and all other content.

Truth be told is that I REALLY enjoy both projectors for their intended purposes. If you did a good amount of gaming or sports I would say go for the TK800M, However, where you are not gaming or watching sports, my strong recommendation is to wait for the HT3550. It will be worth it.

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TK800M is going to be available 'soon'

If you haven't already, check out post 35 where I do a pretty thorough run-down of how these two compare. Plain and simple, the TK800M is better for gaming and sports. The HT3550 is much better at HDR and all other content.

Truth be told is that I REALLY enjoy both projectors for their intended purposes. If you did a good amount of gaming or sports I would say go for the TK800M, However, where you are not gaming or watching sports, my strong recommendation is to wait for the HT3550. It will be worth it.
I loved your comparison, hoping you post the full review soon.

I moved houses at end of Jan and since then I am living without getting my fix of HT. I have my speakers sitting in boxes waiting for PJ to be set up. I am waiting to watch Spiderverse at home, Netflix F1 series with Atmos and now soon GOT would be premiering. So this waiting game for HT3550 is getting better of me. As Benq website shows it is out of stock, how can I get in the queue so I can get it as soon as it becomes available? And realistically when would be that?
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TK800M is going to be available 'soon'

If you haven't already, check out post 35 where I do a pretty thorough run-down of how these two compare. Plain and simple, the TK800M is better for gaming and sports. The HT3550 is much better at HDR and all other content.

Truth be told is that I REALLY enjoy both projectors for their intended purposes. If you did a good amount of gaming or sports I would say go for the TK800M, However, where you are not gaming or watching sports, my strong recommendation is to wait for the HT3550. It will be worth it.
I loved your comparison, hoping you post the full review soon.

I moved houses at end of Jan and since then I am living without getting my fix of HT. I have my speakers sitting in boxes waiting for PJ to be set up. I am waiting to watch Spiderverse at home, Netflix F1 series with Atmos and now soon GOT would be premiering. So this waiting game for HT3550 is getting better of me. As Benq website shows it is out of stock, how can I get in the queue so I can get it as soon as it becomes available? And realistically when would be that?
Projector central and B&H have it in stock. I’m probably going to the B&H store in the next few weeks to pick one up myself.

Edit: ordered and picking up today!!

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What’s a good 120” screen for this?
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What’s a good 120” screen for this?
Yes, I have 140" and perfect
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Hi, 2 questions:
The 120 hz are only for 1080p or also for UHD? How do you activate the HDR in windows 10 to watch movies? In screen configuration it does not detect it, it only works with full screen in games...
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My review is up here!

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Good review, thank you.
But the issue of 120hz in UHD or only for lower resolutions I remain in doubt. In Pc I only got 120hz with 720p or 1080p at 60hz. Although of course, the hdmi 2.0 only allows 4k 60hz maximum so I doubt it.
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Good review, thank you.

But the issue of 120hz in UHD or only for lower resolutions I remain in doubt. In Pc I only got 120hz with 720p or 1080p at 60hz. Although of course, the hdmi 2.0 only allows 4k 60hz maximum so I doubt it.


You need to create a custom resolution in your graphic card’s control panel. The benq does not properly broadcast its EDID that it can do 1080p120 so it does not list as a selectable resolution. You need to force it, but I have confirmed it works nicely.

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You need to create a custom resolution in your graphic card’s control panel. The benq does not properly broadcast its EDID that it can do 1080p120 so it does not list as a selectable resolution. You need to force it, but I have confirmed it works nicely.
I will try, thanks.
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Good review, thank you.

But the issue of 120hz in UHD or only for lower resolutions I remain in doubt. In Pc I only got 120hz with 720p or 1080p at 60hz. Although of course, the hdmi 2.0 only allows 4k 60hz maximum so I doubt it.<img src="https://www.avsforum.com/forum/images/AVSForum/smilies/tango_face_sad.png" border="0" alt="" title="Frown" class="inlineimg" />


You need to create a custom resolution in your graphic card’s control panel. The benq does not properly broadcast its EDID that it can do 1080p120 so it does not list as a selectable resolution. You need to force it, but I have confirmed it works nicely.


Hi scotty, in 1080p 120hz would you be able to test input lag. I would be curious to see if the number is halved from your review. Fellow PC user here and simple mouse movement as well as games the 42ms would not work for me.
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Hi scotty, in 1080p 120hz would you be able to test input lag. I would be curious to see if the number is halved from your review. Fellow PC user here and simple mouse movement as well as games the 42ms would not work for me.
I will try to to test but the max input lag reduction will be 8ms. That is the difference in frame draws at 60 vs 120hz.

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Will a sonos beam conneced to the non 4k hdmi port work? This is my first projector and I'm trying to figure out the sound.
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I feel like there aren’t enough comparisons between the TK800M vs HT3550 so I will be posting my impressions once I receive both.

For context, this will be a projector in my living room that has pretty good controlled ambient lighting. I have blackout curtains and shades that block out most light during the day but still some brightness and of course the room is pitch black at night.

I’ve heard of some brightness issues with the HT3550 especially with WCG turned on, and if that mode isn’t used then it’s the 96% Rec 709 of the TK800M vs 100% coverage on the HT3550. Of course the HT3550 will have better blacks due to the HDR PRO and Dynamic Iris so it’ll be interesting to see how the TK800M fares against the HT3550.

I’d say my viewing habits are 30% daytime with roughly 55% movies, 30% TV and 15% sports. Also some light gaming with the Nintendo Switch.

The projector will be roughly 11-12 feet back projecting onto a 100” pull down screen. I currently have a 65” Sony X900E so whichever projector I choose will complement that.
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I noticed that the TK800M has already had a little price drop. I don't want to post any retail outlets, but I'm sure anyone here could find it a little cheaper that a month ago.

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I feel like there aren’t enough comparisons between the TK800M vs HT3550 so I will be posting my impressions once I receive both.

For context, this will be a projector in my living room that has pretty good controlled ambient lighting. I have blackout curtains and shades that block out most light during the day but still some brightness and of course the room is pitch black at night.

I’ve heard of some brightness issues with the HT3550 especially with WCG turned on, and if that mode isn’t used then it’s the 96% Rec 709 of the TK800M vs 100% coverage on the HT3550. Of course the HT3550 will have better blacks due to the HDR PRO and Dynamic Iris so it’ll be interesting to see how the TK800M fares against the HT3550.

I’d say my viewing habits are 30% daytime with roughly 55% movies, 30% TV and 15% sports. Also some light gaming with the Nintendo Switch.

The projector will be roughly 11-12 feet back projecting onto a 100” pull down screen. I currently have a 65” Sony X900E so whichever projector I choose will complement that.
Cool. My current projector is at 12' so I'm looking at maybe the 800M, since I can maybe go up to a 100" (from 96"), but I really can't go bigger, and I'd rather not have the projector in the center of the ceiling. I'm starting to think of the trade-off between these projectors. One has the better color, while one the brightness. I'm now thinking about the advantages of the 800M, both with brighter 3D and going with a darker screen, altogether.
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I noticed that the TK800M has already had a little price drop. I don't want to post any retail outlets, but I'm sure anyone here could find it a little cheaper that a month ago.



Cool. My current projector is at 12' so I'm looking at maybe the 800M, since I can maybe go up to a 100" (from 96"), but I really can't go bigger, and I'd rather not have the projector in the center of the ceiling. I'm starting to think of the trade-off between these projectors. One has the better color, while one the brightness. I'm now thinking about the advantages of the 800M, both with brighter 3D and going with a darker screen, altogether.
I ended up going with the TK800M. I had a terrible time with the HT3550 -- my model was most likely defective. The colors were awful and no amount of tweaking could fix the colors to look right. I also had issues where the screen would be darker on the right half of the image and it would stay that way until I restarted the projector. There were times when the projector booted up and the image was all white with random splotches of black (see attached images). There were also sharpness issues and I couldn't focus the lens to make the image sharp enough. Lastly, since this in my living room, even though I have blackout curtains, if there's any sort of ambient light, then the HT3550 will not be bright enough. I found myself trying to make the HT3550 with WCG off to get the extra brightness, but it still wasn't bright enough. In the end, it wasn't worth the hassle of constantly trying to adjust the image or fix the various bugs that are present with the current production model. I bought on April 26th hoping that most of the early issues would have been gone, but my projector still had all the reported issues.

The TK800M was much better for my use case. It's a great all-around projector that displays a bright, SHARP image that works great for movies, gaming and especially sports. The blacks aren't nearly as nice and the HDR mapping HT3550 is much better, however unless you have the right light control (which you most likely can't in a living room), then TK800M will be a better fit for most people. The only downside is that it has a shorter zoom and no lens shift which makes placement a little more difficult. I was only able to project a 99" image due to the distance restrictions I have but that trade off is worth it for the versatility, brightness, and sharpness the TK800M has to offer. I was also able to get the TK800M for 20% off at Fry's making my total cost $1122 including tax vs $1619 for the HT3550 from Benq Direct. At a $500 difference, the decision was a no-brainer!
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I just ordered the Tk800m. Did anyone upgrade from a w1070? That has 2000 lumens and 1080p.
Hopefully this will feel like a step up on a 100 screen.
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I just ordered the Tk800m. Did anyone upgrade from a w1070? That has 2000 lumens and 1080p.
Hopefully this will feel like a step up on a 100 screen.
I used to have the W1070 but stopped using it for a year or two before purchasing the TK800M. I can help answer any questions! I'm also waiting to exchange my HT3550 to see if I just had a defective model.

I think you'll appreciate the brightness of the TK800M. It makes a huge difference.
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To be clear, this light canon of a projector, when used for watching movies especially at night, will deliver less-than-ideal contrast and black levels?

This pj sounds interesting, especially since we host weekly football parties during NFL season. We have to sit in almost darkness for my Epson 8345 to look decent, so that makes the TK800M sound VERY appealing.

BUT, even more important than hosting football parties, I want a pj with outstanding contrast and black levels for nighttime movie watching in a dark room.

It sounds like the 800M would be too much of a compromise for nighttime movie watching. Is that accurate?

I'm leaning toward the Sony 45es for the black levels, knowing that I'd be sacrificing daytime viewing flexibility, especially the football parties, as well as limiting myself to 1080p for another few years.
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That is the size of my screen too... how far back do you have it mounted? Does it have any vertical adjustment at all? The reason I ask is that I have lowish ceiling and screen is 4" to top. Calculator says highest you can mount is 6.8.....
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To be clear, this light canon of a projector, when used for watching movies especially at night, will deliver less-than-ideal contrast and black levels?

This pj sounds interesting, especially since we host weekly football parties during NFL season. We have to sit in almost darkness for my Epson 8345 to look decent, so that makes the TK800M sound VERY appealing.

BUT, even more important than hosting football parties, I want a pj with outstanding contrast and black levels for nighttime movie watching in a dark room.

It sounds like the 800M would be too much of a compromise for nighttime movie watching. Is that accurate?

I'm leaning toward the Sony 45es for the black levels, knowing that I'd be sacrificing daytime viewing flexibility, especially the football parties, as well as limiting myself to 1080p for another few years.
That's the problem. They're all a compromise and it's impossible to say what's an acceptable compromise to another person.
I have a TK800 which to all intents and purposes is the same as the TK800M. When I watch sports with friends with lights on, or when I play games from the Xbox etc, I think it's amazing.
When I turn the lights off, I wish the blacks were better and I wish there was more shadow detail, but it's not a light controlled room and all DLPs are compromised in this respect.

So, it really does depend on your environment and what your genuine usage is likely to be. I don't know how the Epson compares to any of these projectors so I can't help there.
It sounds like your priority is contrast and black levels, in which case you should probably get the HT3550.

However, if you're not really interested in 4k, then by all accounts the Sony 45es is an outstanding projector in every way, so you'd probably me more than happy with that, especially for dark room viewing.

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Does this unit support dynamic contrast via lamp dimming?
The successor of the 2550/tw1700 does (tw1720). It improves contrast .
Just read the review here https://www.passionhomecinema.fr/blo...is-de-gregory/
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Just received my tk800m

There appears to be no lens cap? Can anyone recommend one as well as a bag for it?

It’s sharpness and colors are outstanding. Blacks not better than my old w1070. But they are not great on my 75nu8000 either
Have to wait for oleds to become cheaper at bigger sizes.

Debating whether to keep it or wait for the rumored brighter version of ht3550.. will test drive it tonight w GOT
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Can you inform us on the dynamic contrast? Is there such an option?
If so, is it via lamp dimming?
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Can you inform us on the dynamic contrast? Is there such an option?
If so, is it via lamp dimming?
It has Smarteco, which is BenQ's form of Dynamic Lamp Dimming and it has the added benefit of increasing lamp life.
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It has Smarteco, which is BenQ's form of Dynamic Lamp Dimming and it has the added benefit of increasing lamp life.
Thanks.

Do you know if this feature was also included in the previous model, tk800?
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Thanks.

Do you know if this feature was also included in the previous model, tk800?
Yes, it was. I think it was first introduced on the W1070 and has been featured on most Benq home video/theatre PJs since.
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