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Which projector, < $700 ?

So I got some discounted BestBuy gift cards as a credit card reward, and I want to buy a new projector. I've pretty much decided on the Optoma HD27HDR, but it's been unavailable from Best Buy for a while now, and they won't even let me order one. Another option is the BenQ HT2050A, but after reading reviews, I think I'll prefer the Optoma, as it's a bit more quiet, seems to have similar, maybe slightly better image quality, and is $50 cheaper. A third option is the Optoma HD143X but it's not in the same league as the other two, as its lower price suggests. But it would still likely be a nice improvement over my old Mitsubishi HC1500.

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The BenQ HT2050a is the most recommended 1080p projector under $1k. Its advantage over the Optoma's is its 4x RGBRGB color wheel over the Optoma's 2x white segmented wheel.

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So I got some discounted BestBuy gift cards as a credit card reward, and I want to buy a new projector. I've pretty much decided on the Optoma HD27HDR, but it's been unavailable from Best Buy for a while now, and they won't even let me order one. Another option is the BenQ HT2050A, but after reading reviews, I think I'll prefer the Optoma, as it's a bit more quiet, seems to have similar, maybe slightly better image quality, and is $50 cheaper. A third option is the Optoma HD143X but it's not in the same league as the other two, as its lower price suggests. But it would still likely be a nice improvement over my old Mitsubishi HC1500.

Anyone here have personal experience with any of these?
I've not seen the other two, because after my research, I went with the HT2050a and couldn't be happier. I came from an older $2,000 720p Panasonic. Although the Panasonic still throws a nice picture, the HT2050a is brighter, better contrasts and allowed me to have a much bigger screen from same mount location.
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I'll also throw my vote in for the HT2050a. The bang for buck on this unit is phenomenal. It has really refreshed my theater, and quality of time we are spending in it.


I did a ton of research before my buy. Like @tonybradley I was coming off an older high end 720, and I was pretty much sold on the Epson 3100, due to my tough ceiling height requirement, and it's lens shift capabilities. after beginning my thread I started getting hooked on bumping up to a higher dollar/higher end projector, possibly even in to 4K. But, after the recommendation of @sage11x, @Dave in Green, and several others' assistance...purchased the BenQ. This allowed me to upgrade my theater, and step up to a 4K set for my main display, while spending the same money I had slotted for the theater alone. I couldn't be more pleased.



I'm not sure of the noise level of the Optoma, but the 2050a is pretty quiet. My room is not soundproofed or completely dedicated, but when I'm watching a movie or gaming, I cannot hear the projector running at all. PQ is amazing out of the box, with very few minor tweaks.

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While I can't speak to these specific models, I be found that the BenQ's generally excel in 3D performance over others. A bit crisper & brighter.
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I have seen both (owned the 2050a and my cousin brought over his HD27HDR), the 2050a is the better over-all projector IMO but the HD27HDR obviously has an interesting feature set due to its 4K HDR processing.

The HD27HDR actually makes a noise that might be more bothersome than the 2050a (color wheel whine) depending upon placement/environment/hearing.

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I have seen both (owned the 2050a and my cousin brought over his HD27HDR), the 2050a is the better over-all projector IMO but the HD27HDR obviously has an interesting feature set due to its 4K HDR processing.

The HD27HDR actually makes a noise that might be more bothersome than the 2050a (color wheel whine) depending upon placement/environment/hearing.

- Jason
Thank you Jason, noise is a concern, as the room only has a 7 foot ceiling, and the projector will be pretty much directly over the seating area.
Which would you say was louder?

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Generally speaking projectors with larger cases have more room inside for internal baffling to help reduce fan noise. The BenQ HT2050A has a larger case than the other models it directly competes against and has been reviewed by many to be generally quieter than its competitors with smaller cases. However, it should be noted that different people are more sensitive to some sound frequencies than others. So it's not entirely possible to predict whether or not the sound frequency of one projector might be more annoying to a given individual than another.
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Thank you Jason, noise is a concern, as the room only has a 7 foot ceiling, and the projector will be pretty much directly over the seating area.
Which would you say was louder?
The HD27HDR is louder, the 2050a is exceptional regarding noise when compared to other DLP projectors at this price point.

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The HD27HDR is louder, the 2050a is exceptional regarding noise when compared to other DLP projectors at this price point.

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Thanks Jason, I'll probably pull the trigger tomorrow.
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Is the consensus the HT2050a is a better buy than the 27HDR right now?
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I guess I should specify, I've got full light control and placement so that isn't much of an issue. I like the much longer lamp life of the Optoma, and obviously the HDR would be a nice feature. I also play some games, though no FPS but the 16ms game mode on the Optoma is a plus as well. I have and HD70 and haven't experienced RBE on it. I would hope the DHR27 would be as good or better, being so much newer. The only thing that worries me are the colours may not be as good as the BenQ and the noise. I returned a UHD51A becuase the actuators were making to much buzzing. It sounds like the colour wheel on the 27HDR might be a bit noisy as well?
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I guess I should specify, I've got full light control and placement so that isn't much of an issue. I like the much longer lamp life of the Optoma, and obviously the HDR would be a nice feature. I also play some games, though no FPS but the 16ms game mode on the Optoma is a plus as well. I have and HD70 and haven't experienced RBE on it. I would hope the DHR27 would be as good or better, being so much newer. The only thing that worries me are the colours may not be as good as the BenQ and the noise. I returned a UHD51A becuase the actuators were making to much buzzing. It sounds like the colour wheel on the 27HDR might be a bit noisy as well?
The 27HDR does not project an HDR image, it's color spectrum is still Rec.709. It accepts HDR10 and converts/mapps it to SDR.
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Well, I got tired of waiting for BestBuy to get the HD27HDR in stock, so pulled the trigger on the HT2050A. Bulbs are $90 more expensive, but it has a 3 year warranty, gets plenty of good feed back, and was available to order. I really was interested in the Optoma, but got tired of waiting...

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The 27HDR does not project an HDR image, it's color spectrum is still Rec.709. It accepts HDR10 and converts/mapps it to SDR.
That's not what the review says(?) It does down convert 4K to 1080, but is supposed to correctly display HDR(?)

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I guess I should specify, I've got full light control and placement so that isn't much of an issue. I like the much longer lamp life of the Optoma, and obviously the HDR would be a nice feature. I also play some games, though no FPS but the 16ms game mode on the Optoma is a plus as well. I have and HD70 and haven't experienced RBE on it. I would hope the DHR27 would be as good or better, being so much newer. The only thing that worries me are the colours may not be as good as the BenQ and the noise. I returned a UHD51A becuase the actuators were making to much buzzing. It sounds like the colour wheel on the 27HDR might be a bit noisy as well?


Just an FYI: the HT2050A also has a 16ms game mode.
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That's not what the review says(?) It does down convert 4K to 1080, but is supposed to correctly display HDR(?)
Technologies that are incorporated in HDR are: 4K resolution, WCG (wide color gamut Rec.2020/DCI P3), 10 bit capability, and higher brightness (nits). It's common for a proper HDR branded tv to be capable of 1000 nits (or around 6-700 for OLED). Many HDR titles are mastered at 1000 nits.

The 27HDR does:
4K-downscaled to 1080p.
WGC - mapped to Rec.709
10 bit stays at 10 bit or converted to 8, depending on settings.
With a typical home projector you will get 150-200 nits brightness on screen, so the projector maps the brightness of the HDR material to the capabilities of the device.
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As stated above the HD27HDR is not true HDR, it does a nice job with HDR content by giving the sense of a wider range vs SDR but at the end of the day it's tone mapping.

Many HDR capable displays do tone mapping so this is not just a knock against the HD27HDR, it's very common.

The HD27HDR does offer 1080p 120Hz gaming @ ~8ms however and the 2050a cannot do that (mainly a benefit to pc gamers).

At the current price points for both of these units it's truly amazing what you get.

I feel the 2050a is better over-all but either is a solid choice (these are two of the best projectors under $1K msrp).

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So here we are at the end of year is the 2050a still the goto projector for the $700 and under price range?

I am willing to go as high as $1000. Its my first projector and not sure how much I will like it over a traditional tv in the basement.

I would like FULL 3D capability.

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So here we are at the end of year is the 2050a still the goto projector for the $700 and under price range?

I am willing to go as high as $1000. Its my first projector and not sure how much I will like it over a traditional tv in the basement.

I would like FULL 3D capability.

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Newer 1080p projectors aren't coming out at this point, with maybe some exceptions for laser, etc. There may be discounts on some models that would make them more competitive.
For 3D DLP is the best.
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