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Epson 2150 vs Epson 5030UB vs Epson 5040UB

I currently have a Epson 2150. It is a decent projector but I want something more. I missed out on the 5040 refurb yesterday but you can get a 5030 for a very good price. My question is, Will the 5030 be a huge upgrade from the 2150? and how does the 5030 compare to the 5040? I have a light controlled basement using a 120in Elunevision Reference 4k Tab Tension. Tan-ish colored walls but dark carpet.

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I don't have experience with the 5030/5040 but dealers have told me that they have the same image. The 5040 adds some features like motorized lens so if you don't need that you could save by going with the 5030.

What I have done is gone from an Epson 2100 to a 4000 on my 150" scope spandex screen and it was a huge, huge improvement. It still makes me smile six months later. A ub model would only be better.
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I have owned all three projectors. Epson 5030 has much better contrast than the Epson 2150. Going from the Epson 2150 to the 5030 would be a big upgrade for you. I saw no difference in contrast between the Epson 5030 and the Epson 5040. The main advantage between the 5030 and 5040 is the Epson 5040 did show a sharper image due to image enhancement processing and 4K eshift.
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I have owned all three projectors. Epson 5030 has much better contrast than the Epson 2150. Going from the Epson 2150 to the 5030 would be a big upgrade for you. I saw no difference in contrast between the Epson 5030 and the Epson 5040. The main advantage between the 5030 and 5040 is the Epson 5040 did show a sharper image due to image enhancement processing and 4K eshift.
Awesome. I was watching the Punisher season 2 finale the other day and you couldnt even see there faces when they were fighting near the end. To get anything near watchable the image was terrible.

I would love to have 4k but the tech needs a few more iterations for me to consider it. The new stuff, the 3550 and the like seem like a big upgrade but the tech seems to be moving very fast so I would hate to buy now and just see even better within a year.
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I would love to have 4k but the tech needs a few more iterations for me to consider it. The new stuff, the 3550 and the like seem like a big upgrade but the tech seems to be moving very fast so I would hate to buy now and just see even better within a year.
The 5040 isn't a real 4k projector anyway. Not familiar with the 5030 but I like the 5040 mostly for the mechanical lens shift with memory as I use a CIH setup.
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The 5040 isn't a real 4k projector anyway. Not familiar with the 5030 but I like the 5040 mostly for the mechanical lens shift with memory as I use a CIH setup.
The mechanical controls are pretty sweet but nothing useful for me now. I will be moving in a few years and at that time I will probably shell out the money for a Sony or JVC. But in the meantime the experience the other day with Punisher pushed me over the edge to get rid of the 2150.

If I would have been able to get the 5040 for the 1100 bucks yesterday it would be a no brainer. But I really like the idea of this 5030. Bulbs are only 100 bucks too.

Would there be anything in the 800-1200 range that would be better picture wise than the 5030 I'm all ears. Maybe a older JVC? Im only after 1080p right now

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The 5030ub will definitely be a very big upgrade from 2150. Night and day difference.
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I have a 6500UB right now. Would the 5030UB be a big upgrade? Or should I go with the 5040UB, 4000, 4010 or even Benq 3550? I have a light controlled basement and 100" DIY screen (thinking about a 120" Silver Ticket screen). Primarily watching sports, streaming show and watching movies (in that order). No gaming.

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I have a 6500UB right now. Would the 5030UB be a big upgrade? Or should I go with the 5040UB, 4000, 4010 or even Benq 3550? I have a light controlled basement and 100" DIY screen (thinking about a 120" Silver Ticket screen). Primarily watching sports, streaming show and watching movies (in that order). No gaming.

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I used to own the 6500UB and 8700UB, I bought the 5030UB last year, very glad I did, massive upgrade on all fronts.

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Of course the 5030ub is long discontinued so are new one even still available? Buying refurbished or used can be a nightmare but Epson does have a decent warranty on their refurbished projectors as you may have to send several back. The Sony 45es is known for its excellent motion processor and should be great for sports. Sports are one of the lesser demanding content for viewing and are generally broadcast in 720p or 1080i if your lucky so video processing is very important. The Sony has higher native contrast then the 5030 but no active iris so dynamic contrast is better on the 5030 if you don't mind the action of the iris.

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The mechanical controls are pretty sweet but nothing useful for me now. I will be moving in a few years and at that time I will probably shell out the money for a Sony or JVC. But in the meantime the experience the other day with Punisher pushed me over the edge to get rid of the 2150.

If I would have been able to get the 5040 for the 1100 bucks yesterday it would be a no brainer. But I really like the idea of this 5030. Bulbs are only 100 bucks too.
$1100 for a 5040 would be a great deal. If it's just a short term solution and you don't need/want the features of the 5040 then the 5030 sounds like a good idea.
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Of course the 5030ub is long discontinued so are new one even still available? Buying refurbished or used can be a nightmare but Epson does have a decent warranty on their refurbished projectors as you may have to send several back. The Sony 45es is known for its excellent motion processor and should be great for sports. Sports are one of the lesser demanding content for viewing and are generally broadcast in 720p or 1080i if your lucky so video processing is very important. The Sony has higher native contrast then the 5030 but no active iris so dynamic contrast is better on the 5030 if you don't mind the action of the iris.
Yea it would be refurbished. It's just going to tide me over until I get something new when I move.

Something has to change though. My 2150 just isn't cutting it. There are somethings it's great at but I now know I need something with better dark room performance.

It's funny you mention the 45es because that's what I was going to buy at the time but ran out of money right before I did, so I had to settle. And for the price of the Epson it does a great job but just falls short for me.

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Do you think it would be worth to prof calibrate the 2150 in lieu of getting the 5030? The investment might turn out to be around the same depending on how much I can get for the 2150 when I go to sell it. Just a thought.

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Do you think it would be worth to prof calibrate the 2150 in lieu of getting the 5030? The investment might turn out to be around the same depending on how much I can get for the 2150 when I go to sell it. Just a thought.

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I use a 2150 for casual viewing when I don't want to use up my JVC bulb and it's really a fine projector for the money, but calibration is not going to improve it's biggest weakness, mainly the black levels...

The Epson 5030 will have better black levels for sure, but I'm not sure if it's worth the short term purchase unless you get a great deal. If it were me, I might want to save up for a better 4k projector.
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I use a 2150 for casual viewing when I don't want to use up my JVC bulb and it's really a fine projector for the money, but calibration is not going to improve it's biggest weakness, mainly the black levels...



The Epson 5030 will have better black levels for sure, but I'm not sure if it's worth the short term purchase unless you get a great deal. If it were me, I might want to save up for a better 4k projector.
Well when I move I'll have a sizable budget but that's not for a couple years. I just need something in that time that's better than the 2150. I had a 8350 years ago but went with a projector for a while. So when I bought one last year I thought I could live with something lower end and as it turns out I can't. I probably being a little ridiculous but the black level and color saturation are lacking so much I can't get past it when I'm watching content. I can't let it go.

Is there something in the 1000-1500 dollar range other than the 5030 that you would recommend? It can older or used. Just anything that is better than the 2150

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I can heartily recommend any lightly used recent JVC projector, as many others do. I have an X550R (same as the RS400). There's something about the magic that JVC is doing with their D-ILA chips that produce not only great black levels, but a smoothness and refined quality to the image that is better than the many projectors I've owned (most recent ones are Epson 5030 or Sony HW40es).

I would keep an eye on the AVS classifieds...
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Well when I move I'll have a sizable budget but that's not for a couple years. I just need something in that time that's better than the 2150. I had a 8350 years ago but went with a projector for a while. So when I bought one last year I thought I could live with something lower end and as it turns out I can't. I probably being a little ridiculous but the black level and color saturation are lacking so much I can't get past it when I'm watching content. I can't let it go.

Is there something in the 1000-1500 dollar range other than the 5030 that you would recommend? It can older or used. Just anything that is better than the 2150

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An open box Sony 45ES on Amazon is in your price range. And it will show a much better image than the Epson 2150.
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