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I've been waiting to replace my aging Optoma HD30 for a few years now, and I think I am ready to pull the trigger. I do a lot of console gaming on the projector and while the BenQ is much less expensive and I have been DLP projector owner most of my life, but it appears the Epson has much, much faster input lag from what I've read. Is this still the consensus or have settings been found on the BenQ that might persuade me away from the Epson?
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So I have the unit and it’s huge. It’s mounted ready to go. I have when not watching content had a message come up on a blue screen stating auto iris failure contact Epson and power off machine. When trying to power off the lights will all flash.

Pulling the power chord and rebooting and it’s working and watching Passengers 4K currently


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Yeah, I'm one of the few that had to return the projector due to the hulking size of it. Was too much of an eye sore in my apartment living room. ie it did not pass the wife test. And honesty she's right. Once I have a dedicated space for a theater set up, I can go for an enormous projector. Until then I need something a little less assuming.
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Upgrade the 5040 to 5050? Thoughts Please

Soooooo, is it worth it to upgrade from the 5040 to the 5050?

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Yeah, I'm one of the few that had to return the projector due to the hulking size of it. Was too much of an eye sore in my apartment living room. ie it did not pass the wife test. And honesty she's right. Once I have a dedicated space for a theater set up, I can go for an enormous projector. Until then I need something a little less assuming.


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Soooooo, is it worth it to upgrade from the 5040 to the 5050?

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I'm waiting for this too. I've yet to see anyone who has upgraded from the 5040 to the 5050. As a 5040 owner, I am very happy with it, but I also get the upgrade bug very easily. Part of me wonders if Epson eventually releases a completely different model in the next year or so that is true 4k. The 5040 quickly got caught up with by cheaper DLPs (both with their own pros/cons obviously) and the 5050 is basically the same projector but with a software update and better HDMIs. I can't imagine that Epson is content on being the last to offer true 4k.
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The Epson 3700 is tiny by comparison




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Did the 5050 fit in the same space the 3700 was in? That was my issue. 3700 seemed to disappear into my living room space, 5050 was too obtrusive.
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Did the 5050 fit in the same space the 3700 was in? That was my issue. 3700 seemed to disappear into my living room space, 5050 was too obtrusive.[/QUOTE]

That box is almost as big as your car
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Totally jealous. I "worked from home" yesterday, waiting for the phone call that my 5050 arrived.

Unfortunately, I got this email instead. (bonus points for high touch service, though).....

"so we ended up having to pick the projector up at Fed Ex in K****burg as opposed to the distributor in South P*****eld. According to Fed Ex they were reboxing the outer box and just the whole thing seemed strange. So we picked it up and brought it here and opened it and while it is the projector it seemed open and missing some accessories. We have boxed it back up and have another one on order. I will let you know when we expect to see it."

So I'll just drool over your pics for another day or two.
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[QUOTE=CallingMrBenzo;57910074

I’ve been debating this for a while now. I am going with an acoustic transparent screen. Ill probably buy a silver ticket again however do I go for a 110 /120 16:9 or do I go for 115 2:35:1 as they don’t seem to have any other size available.
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They make a 127" or 128" and a 142" 2.35:1.

https://www.silverticketproducts.com...cts/str-235125

https://www.silverticketproducts.com...cts/str-235138

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They make a 127" or 128" and a 142" 2.35:1.

https://www.silverticketproducts.com...cts/str-235125

https://www.silverticketproducts.com...cts/str-235138

I plan on going with the 127.


Acoustically transparent and in stock they only have a 115


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Oh, you need one thats "in stock"? Thats just asking a little bit too much, don't ya think? So greedy in this thread!

Amazon has a few left.

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Oh, you need one thats "in stock"? Thats just asking a little bit too much, don't ya think? So greedy in this thread!



Amazon has a few left.



https://www.amazon.com/STR-235125-Si...-1-spons&psc=1


Acoustically transparent as well come on I want the wall of sound and the center in the proper place.

First world problems


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my cutting and pasting, searching and reading skills are all off this morning. I searched for the "STR-235125-WAB" and my eyes saw 'anamorphic' in the results, but my brain read 'acoustically transparent.' I'm going to get more coffee.

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Did the 5050 fit in the same space the 3700 was in? That was my issue. 3700 seemed to disappear into my living room space, 5050 was too obtrusive.[/QUOTE]


As a 3700 owner who is going to make the same switch, what is your opinion so far and how much of an upgrade does it feel like? I, by default, had to take my 3700 down this past weekend and need to send it in for a repair. I put my 5030 back up which has about 2,600 hours on the bulb. Although the contrast was better on the 5030 the 3700 was so much brighter that I found the 5030 hard to stomach at this point. To my eyes I'll take a really bright projector with decent blacks over a projector with modest lumens but better blacks any day of the week. I have a 16:9 150" screen so it does need the lumens. Anyway, anxious to hear your thoughts on the difference between the 3700 and the 5050.
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Tone mapping:

With the updated tone mapping in the 5050UB, what is your guys' opinion on needing the Panasonic UB820 player's tone mapping, too??

Is the UB820 player's tone mapping overkill? Needed? I'm trying to save $499 if it is purely optional!

Thanks for your opinions.
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My wife and I have an RS1 projecting onto a 119" Dalite High Power 2.8-gain screen (the latter in perfect condition, knock on wood). I'd love to hear what owners of the 5050 and that particular screen have to say about the combo. Do you need sunglasses? Can you have say a reading light on, or a light off to the side, and still get a good image?

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With the updated tone mapping in the 5050UB, what is your guys' opinion on needing the Panasonic UB820 player's tone mapping, too??



Is the UB820 player's tone mapping overkill? Needed? I'm trying to save $499 if it is purely optional!



Thanks for your opinions.




I will let you know. I have not unboxed my Panasonic yet because I wanted to see how the Epson performed by itself. I did not love the settings I tried last night I found others to try on AV forums. I played with the HDR slider but there is so much you can change I would love to set it and forget it. I will get a few more movies u set my belt then try the Panasonic and compare directly. I got mine open box to save some money.


I will say setting up the new Epson with the remote and shifting the image and zooming took less than 4 mins and it’s better than I ever got with the 3700


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I will let you know. I have not unboxed my Panasonic yet because I wanted to see how the Epson performed by itself. I did not love the settings I tried last night I found others to try on AV forums. I played with the HDR slider but there is so much you can change I would love to set it and forget it. I will get a few more movies u set my belt then try the Panasonic and compare directly. I got mine open box to save some money.


I will say setting up the new Epson with the remote and shifting the image and zooming took less than 4 mins and it’s better than I ever got with the 3700


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Did the 5050 fit in the same space the 3700 was in? That was my issue. 3700 seemed to disappear into my living room space, 5050 was too obtrusive.

As a 3700 owner who is going to make the same switch, what is your opinion so far and how much of an upgrade does it feel like? I, by default, had to take my 3700 down this past weekend and need to send it in for a repair. I put my 5030 back up which has about 2,600 hours on the bulb. Although the contrast was better on the 5030 the 3700 was so much brighter that I found the 5030 hard to stomach at this point. To my eyes I'll take a really bright projector with decent blacks over a projector with modest lumens but better blacks any day of the week. I have a 16:9 150" screen so it does need the lumens. Anyway, anxious to hear your thoughts on the difference between the 3700 and the 5050.[/QUOTE]



I have mine ceiling mounted so I changed mounts to one to accommodate a heavier projector. It’s in the same location exactly. With very limited viewing the first time I pressed the volume up on my Marantz the blackness of the bar surrounding the volume indicator was night and day.

The blacks are fantastic. The colors for instance during the end credits of Passengers showing space scenes was amazing.

It will take a while to fine tune and set it up the way I want but as is there is a noticeable noticeable different. My wife and buddy that watches lots of movies with us were floored by it.


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As a 3700 owner who is going to make the same switch, what is your opinion so far and how much of an upgrade does it feel like? I, by default, had to take my 3700 down this past weekend and need to send it in for a repair. I put my 5030 back up which has about 2,600 hours on the bulb. Although the contrast was better on the 5030 the 3700 was so much brighter that I found the 5030 hard to stomach at this point. To my eyes I'll take a really bright projector with decent blacks over a projector with modest lumens but better blacks any day of the week. I have a 16:9 150" screen so it does need the lumens. Anyway, anxious to hear your thoughts on the difference between the 3700 and the 5050.


I have mine ceiling mounted so I changed mounts to one to accommodate a heavier projector. It’s in the same location exactly. With very limited viewing the first time I pressed the volume up on my Marantz the blackness of the bar surrounding the volume indicator was night and day.

The blacks are fantastic. The colors for instance during the end credits of Passengers showing space scenes was amazing.

It will take a while to fine tune and set it up the way I want but as is there is a noticeable noticeable different. My wife and buddy that watches lots of movies with us were floored by it.


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Great to hear. My biggest concern is if there is a noticeable brightness difference between the two that's distracting. The 3700 is an extremely bright projector that I've become accustomed to so I'm interested to hear how bright the 5050 is by comparison. I typically run it in cinema eco mode so I'm not maxing it out by any stretch but that's probably still close to 2,000 lumens or lets say 1700 now that I have a 1,000 hours on the bulb.
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Ha! We wouldn't want that. For some it will be a bigger deal than others. Considering the price difference, albeit only 20% of the total cost, some people may prioritize resolution close to, or even greater than black levels. Size of screen and seating distance will need to be considered.

I'm not saying I can see individual pixels in a moving image at a 16' distance with a 160" screen... what I'm saying is the fine detail resolution seems fuzzy coming from an 8.3M pixel projector. It's hard to explain. My brain has gotten used the way the HT3550/HT5550 renders fine detail.

If you ever get a chance to pick up and use an iPhone 3GS after using Retina displays sometime I think you'll know what I mean. At a normal viewing distance you won't notice individual pixels on the 3GS unless you put your nose to the screen. However, our brains have grown so accustomed to the Retina display since the iPhone 4, that you can easily see a resolution difference at normal viewing distance.... even at a distance you didn't think you could see individual pixels on the 3GS before.

With displays, the increased resolution is rarely appreciated from the get-go. Rather, it is only when you have to back to the lower resolution display that you fully appreciate the increased resolution you have grown accustomed to. You feel dirty and kind of 'jipped' having to "cope" with the reduced resolution. Haha - first world problems! This is why so many people are going to be enthralled with the 5050UB - because very few will be coming from a true 4k display. And that's ok! I'm sure even some people moving from 4K displays that have acceptable screen size to seating distance ratios that will really appreciate the black levels, input lag, and brightness of the 5050UB.
I, like many, am racking my brain on these two units.
I am a 1080p guy, coming from a BenQ 2050. I have to say, for a cheapo unit I've been nothing but impressed....Except for the hideous blacks. In upgrading, my one true need is better blacks. However, in making the move to an upgrade I would be remiss not to improve picture quality while I am at it.

Coming from a BenQ 2050, is the 5050ub THAT much better in blacks? I've considered the 5040ub (at its current discount), but I don't feel as future proof with this unit. I game/movie watch about equal in a 100% light controlled room at a 130" screen. I'm hoping to get a slight WOW factor in black level upgrade. Any other bells and whistle would just be a welcome bonus.

Thanks in advance.


@scottyroo - really appreciate all of your very non biased commentary on these units. I find many reviewers become fans of a particular unit and its hard to weed through if their opinions are fact of if they are just a little love drunk over a particular model.
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I have mine ceiling mounted so I changed mounts to one to accommodate a heavier projector. It’s in the same location exactly. With very limited viewing the first time I pressed the volume up on my Marantz the blackness of the bar surrounding the volume indicator was night and day.

The blacks are fantastic. The colors for instance during the end credits of Passengers showing space scenes was amazing.

It will take a while to fine tune and set it up the way I want but as is there is a noticeable noticeable different. My wife and buddy that watches lots of movies with us were floored by it.


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Great to hear. My biggest concern is if there is a noticeable brightness difference between the two that's distracting. The 3700 is an extremely bright projector that I've become accustomed to so I'm interested to hear how bright the 5050 is by comparison. I typically run it in cinema eco mode so I'm not maxing it out by any stretch but that's probably still close to 2,000 lumens or lets say 1700 now that I have a 1,000 hours on the bulb.[/QUOTE]



I have 1,050 hours on my 3700 and I too ran it in ECO exclusively. I will say anything other than eco was too bright and the fan noise was terrible.

The 5050UB definitely seemed to be quieter overall. I tried a setting in high lamp mode and it was still quiet. This could be due to constant ambient noise from the movie I was watching but I liked the audible level


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I, like many, am racking my brain on these two units.

I am a 1080p guy, coming from a BenQ 2050. I have to say, for a cheapo unit I've been nothing but impressed....Except for the hideous blacks. In upgrading, my one true need is better blacks. However, in making the move to an upgrade I would be remiss not to improve picture quality while I am at it.



Coming from a BenQ 2050, is the 5050ub THAT much better in blacks? I've considered the 5040ub (at its current discount), but I don't feel as future proof with this unit. I game/movie watch about equal in a 100% light controlled room at a 130" screen. I'm hoping to get a slight WOW factor in black level upgrade. Any other bells and whistle would just be a welcome bonus.



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Great to hear. My biggest concern is if there is a noticeable brightness difference between the two that's distracting. The 3700 is an extremely bright projector that I've become accustomed to so I'm interested to hear how bright the 5050 is by comparison. I typically run it in cinema eco mode so I'm not maxing it out by any stretch but that's probably still close to 2,000 lumens or lets say 1700 now that I have a 1,000 hours on the bulb.


I have 1,050 hours on my 3700 and I too ran it in ECO exclusively. I will say anything other than eco was too bright and the fan noise was terrible.

The 5050UB definitely seemed to be quieter overall. I tried a setting in high lamp mode and it was still quiet. This could be due to constant ambient noise from the movie I was watching but I liked the audible level


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What size screen do you have?
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I have 1,050 hours on my 3700 and I too ran it in ECO exclusively. I will say anything other than eco was too bright and the fan noise was terrible.

The 5050UB definitely seemed to be quieter overall. I tried a setting in high lamp mode and it was still quiet. This could be due to constant ambient noise from the movie I was watching but I liked the audible level


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Did it fit in your Miata?


Hahah the Miata only sees the track otherwise it’s an empty water bottle holder.


So this Iris inoperative thing is an issue. Happened two times tonight. Epson is sending me a replacement unit. Very annoying ... but they didn’t mess around in the phone and should be shipping me one tomorrow.

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Hey can we all agree to stop quoting the entire post with all the pictures in it? You have the option to trim out the pictures or if you want to make a joke about the Miata or the projector being sized like the car you can trim the quote down to only include the Miata picture if you must. Thanks.
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