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Just unboxed my Panasonic UB 820. Wow, this thing reeks of quality and feels very nice. It’s large and has a weight to it that none of my past players have had. I have never owned an Oppo or anything fancy before but I can’t wait to try this out with the Epson


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Just unboxed my Panasonic UB 820. Wow, this thing reeks and feels very nice. It’s large and has a weight to it that none of my past players have had. I have never owned an Oppo or anything fancy before but I can’t wait to try this out with the Epson


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It reeks? lol

I actually was thinking (I just opened mine last week or so) how light weight it was for $500! I appreciate the small form factor though as I have some smaller shelves available in my AV "racks" and it will fit right in. As I started updating my home theater this year I quickly realized I was running out of space.
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I’d be surprised if there’s a difference between them with regards to this at least. Might be a typo.
Yeah I'd be surprised too. It would certainly be interesting if someone with a HC5050UB, a PC used to force the video output and a nice, short Premium Certified cable could test for 4K/60P 4:4:4 10-bit and if successful then 12-bit. Occam's razor suggests a typo, but boy given the amount of time Epson have had to update the HC5040UB User Guide and the minimal changes between the two models, one major one being the HDMI performance, one would have to wonder how that would be possible.
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I actually was thinking (I just opened mine last week or so) how light weight it was for $500! I appreciate the small form factor though as I have some smaller shelves available in my AV "racks" and it will fit right in. As I started updating my home theater this year I quickly realized I was running out of space.


Well I couldn’t find the HDR optimizer anywhere in the menu and searched in every sub menu....and I have the older DMP 900. So they put the wrong player in my UB820 box. Oh well another trip back to Best Buy. Still a great player but lacks the one feature I desire.


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Well I couldn’t find the HDR optimizer anywhere in the menu and searched in every sub menu....and I have the older DMP 900. So they put the wrong player in my UB820 box. Oh well another trip back to Best Buy. Still a great player but lacks the one feature I desire.


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Yeah, if you got a 900 in an 820 box, definitely exchange it. The 900 doesn’t do tone mapping.
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Yeah, if you got a 900 in an 820 box, definitely exchange it. The 900 doesn’t do tone mapping.


I will say it’s the best this Epson has looked with the tone mapping built in. Watching the Incredible Hulk and the HDR is amazing the colors the black levels I can’t stop saying oh my. The final scene has such great spectral highlights popping out of the darkness. I’m truly in love and I had to back the HDR slider to 9. I can’t wait for the new player as it will retain detail in some of the explosions which do get blown out a bit.


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Soooooo, is it worth it to upgrade from the 5040 to the 5050?

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Just do it. You will not regret. The picture is sharper . Blacks are darker and HDR is better than any custom curves achieved in 18 months with my 5040. I have the Epson 5050ub paired with the Panasonic ub820 and the combination takes HDR to OLED levels IMHO. I am blown away.
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I'm waiting for this too. I've yet to see anyone who has upgraded from the 5040 to the 5050. As a 5040 owner, I am very happy with it, but I also get the upgrade bug very easily. Part of me wonders if Epson eventually releases a completely different model in the next year or so that is true 4k. The 5040 quickly got caught up with by cheaper DLPs (both with their own pros/cons obviously) and the 5050 is basically the same projector but with a software update and better HDMIs. I can't imagine that Epson is content on being the last to offer true 4k.
LOL...still have not heard anyone say one way or the other? Wonder if the price difference is worth it.
I loved my 5040 even though I owned two in less than 18 months. Both had power supply issues. Epson took some convincing but they replaced my last failed 5040 with a 5050. There is a noticeable difference in sharpness resolution and black levels, all in favor of the 5050. HDR is comparable to my OLED. I know I cannot believe I wrote that sentence either but it is unequivocally true. 18 months with custom curves and having my 5040 calibrated by Jeff Meier of Accucal AV and the 5050 beat it right out of the box. Frankly when Epson sent me the 5050 my intention was to sell it and buy a JVC Rs2000/NX7. I had seen one at a local dealer and HDR was outstanding. IMHO the 5050 does HDR as well. I will be keeping my 5050. Paired with Panasonic ub820 and I am blown away. Pictures don't do it justice but here you go.
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I'm waiting for this too. I've yet to see anyone who has upgraded from the 5040 to the 5050. As a 5040 owner, I am very happy with it, but I also get the upgrade bug very easily. Part of me wonders if Epson eventually releases a completely different model in the next year or so that is true 4k. The 5040 quickly got caught up with by cheaper DLPs (both with their own pros/cons obviously) and the 5050 is basically the same projector but with a software update and better HDMIs. I can't imagine that Epson is content on being the last to offer true 4k.
For me personally....without getting into specs and capability debates...for the $1000 differential...absolutely not...for a $500 differential...maybe...for a $250 differential...probably. Bottom line, I'm completely happy with the 5040 as my use case is 100% movies...no gaming. The extra 100 lumens is negligible in a light controlled room. IMO, the $1000 is better spent/utilized upgrading other components in the system...receiver, amp, Atmos, speakers, subwoofer, 4K UHD Player, streaming device, etc. Of course, YMMV.
Have you demo'd the 5050? I consider you to be quite a knowledgeable home theater enthusiast and usually you seem to prefer real world experience as opposed to quoting specs. Many people will respect your opinion and make a decision based upon what you recommend. I think your opinion should be based on real world viewing experience not just reading specs on paper. Just my two cents. I have had both the 5040 and 5050 in my theater in the last two weeks. Real viewing experience the 5050 is clearly the superior projector in every respect. IMHO it is definitely worth the $1000 . Paying interest free over 24 months compared to the 5040 the difference is $1.35 a day. Definitely way worth an extra $1.35 a day.
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I am using Digital Cinema, color profile and I LOVE it, I can't believe this out the box with no tweaking! Is anybody using anything else? Anybody tried those European setting?

It will be interesting when the in-depth reviews start coming out, I can't believe I was even considering a comp priced DLP....sharper maybe?, better NO way!
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I am using Digital Cinema, color profile and I LOVE it, I can't believe this out the box with no tweaking! Is anybody using anything else? Anybody tried those European setting?



It will be interesting when the in-depth reviews start coming out, I can't believe I was even considering a comp priced DLP....sharper maybe?, better NO way!


I am using the Euro settings for digital cinema with contrast at 75 and HDR slider at 9 for The Incredible Hulk. I used it at 6 for Jurassic World Fallen Kingdom. Iris is set to off as mine causes the projector to need to be reset waiting on a replacement. ECO mode is used.

I use s the Natural setting for Blu-ray and it’s mind blowing. Here are some shots of the Hulk and Iron Man



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LOL...still have not heard anyone say one way or the other? Wonder if the price difference is worth it.
No. IMO it is more to entice those who didn’t want to upgrade to the 5040 because of the power supply fear.
Have you owned either of the projectors? If you haven't it is certainly worth mentioning in your post just to give a full depth to your opinion. I do believe my own eyes having owned the 5040 for 18 months and the 5050 for 5 days. The picture on the 5050 is improved in every area contrast detail resolution black level and overall brightness. HDR is a night and day difference in my black velvet zero light room.
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I am using Digital Cinema, color profile and I LOVE it, I can't believe this out the box with no tweaking! Is anybody using anything else? Anybody tried those European setting?



It will be interesting when the in-depth reviews start coming out, I can't believe I was even considering a comp priced DLP....sharper maybe?, better NO way!


I am using the Euro settings for digital cinema with contrast at 75 and HDR slider at 9 for The Incredible Hulk. I used it at 6 for Jurassic World Fallen Kingdom. Iris is set to off as mine causes the projector to need to be reset waiting on a replacement. ECO mode is used.

I use s the Natural setting for Blu-ray and it’s mind blowing. Here are some shots of the Hulk and Iron Man



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Finally someone who actually owns a projector like I do and is as blown away as I am. Quite frankly little tired of reading post about people who never owned either the 5040 or the 5050 saying that it couldn't possibly be worth the extra $1,000. Having own both of them it is certainly worth the extra $1,000. I'm all for people who have differing opinions and having an intelligent discussion about them because everybody's eyesight is different everybody's preferences different and everybody's room conditions are different but if you honestly haven't seen either projector or if only seen one or the other how could I take your opinion seriously.
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Got mine today, and installed in my custom box I modified (Ikea no less) in less than 3 minutes. Forget mounts. LOVE the auto lens setup. I upgraded from an 8500ub and i was in a trance just watching 1080p content for the first 30 minutes. Fired up my Roku Ultra and 4kHDR is stunning. Next up last is my CIH screen upgrade and I am done! Back to the watching my new 110" OLED I mean PJ!
I couldn't agree more with you I definitely agree it is like watching a a 120 in OLED
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take it for what its worth as it appears to be a dealer who would have a vested interest in selling new units.

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Looks like some dude in his bedroom who is about to sell a few projectors once they "fall" off the back of a truck. [IMG class=inlineimg]/forum/images/smilies/wink.gif[/IMG]
Seems like quite an irresponsible thing to post on AVS Forum from somebody who's considered a senior member I believe. The gentleman who posted the video was just trying to give a first impression of the 5040 versus the 5050. The owner of the business posted the video is a reputable business and does a great job with installations from all the reviews I've read on his website I think you owe that man an apology.
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It reeks? lol



I actually was thinking (I just opened mine last week or so) how light weight it was for $500! I appreciate the small form factor though as I have some smaller shelves available in my AV "racks" and it will fit right in. As I started updating my home theater this year I quickly realized I was running out of space.


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That is why you thought it was built so nice because it was the ub900 LOL instead of ub820. Ub820 is a great player and I absolutely love it I think it was better and is way better and video and audio performance then my Oppo 203 but it was not built like the Oppo 203 the ub9000 which costs a whole lot more than a ub820 is built like that Oppo 203 and the ub900
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That is why you thought it was built so nice because it was the ub900 LOL instead of ub820. Ub820 is a great player and I absolutely love it I think it was better and is way better and video and audio performance then my Oppo 203 but it was not built like the Oppo 203 the ub9000 which costs a whole lot more than a ub820 is built like that Oppo 203 and the ub900


Is the 820 worth getting now? Im blown away as is with the Epsons HDR.


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That is why you thought it was built so nice because it was the ub900 LOL instead of ub820. Ub820 is a great player and I absolutely love it I think it was better and is way better and video and audio performance then my Oppo 203 but it was not built like the Oppo 203 the ub9000 which costs a whole lot more than a ub820 is built like that Oppo 203 and the ub900




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I certainly think it is IMHO. The Panasonic ub820 brings out the best in the Epson 5050 by raising the brightness without lowering your black levels. The detail in shadow and in spectral highlights are an improvement over just the 5050 IMO . I prefer the panny 820 without the optimizer on speaking about the optimizer on the panny 820, slider on the 5050ub set to 6 using Natural picture mode auto Iris off medium power consumption with preset picture mode set to off. I was watching Star Trek Into Darkness 4k Disc and with the optimizer on I felt that the actors faces were softer and less detailed to the increased brightness. With the optimizer turned off the faces were more detailed and the outlines of the faces were much more crisp. Still brilliant dynamic range so that spectral highlights were still plenty detailed and vivid. Braveheart 4k is another where the daylight scenes where there is shadows and beams of lighting peaking through were like being outside in those real world conditions. Honestly I have watched that movie 5 times in its entirety just in the 4k format and it was like watching it for the first time.

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I do believe my own eyes having owned the 5040 for 18 months and the 5050 for 5 days. The picture on the 5050 is improved in every area contrast detail resolution black level and overall brightness. HDR is a night and day difference in my black velvet zero light room.
I can understand your excitement with a new projector, but let's be honest it's basically the same projector as the 5040. Any perceived differences in brightness, contrast and black level are probably due to the software and not the hardware. When calibrated they measure exactly the same. The only meaningful additions are the 18Gbps chipset and the HDR slider. The HDR slider is really convenient for novices, but you can achieve the same result with custom gamma curves.

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I do believe my own eyes having owned the 5040 for 18 months and the 5050 for 5 days. The picture on the 5050 is improved in every area contrast detail resolution black level and overall brightness. HDR is a night and day difference in my black velvet zero light room.
I can understand your excitement with a new projector, but let's be honest it's basically the same projector as the 5040. Any perceived differences in brightness, contrast and black level are probably due to the software and not the hardware. When calibrated they measure exactly the same. The only meaningful additions are the 18Gbps chipset and the HDR slider. The HDR slider is really convenient for novices, but you can achieve the same result with custom gamma curves.
Would you consider Jeff Meier from Accucal AV a novice since he calibrated my 5040? The picture is better than my calibrated 5040 .Have you taken both projectors apart to compare their internal parts? Do you work for Epson and have access to the software changes that were made? Would you consider Art Feierman from projectorreviews.com a novice because he is quoted as saying HDR performance on the 5050ub is significantly better than anything he achieved in two years of custom curves with the Epson 5040? I understand some people just want to have an opinion even if it not based upon an actual real world experience. Arm chair quarterbacks always call the right play at the right time but never step out on the field. I will continue to actually pick up the football and play. Much more fun that way.
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I certainly think it is IMHO. The Panasonic ub820 brings out the best in the Epson 5050 by raising the brightness without lowering your black levels. The detail in shadow and in spectral highlights are an improvement over just the 5050 IMO . I prefer the panny 820 without the optimizer on speaking about the optimizer on the panny 820, slider on the 5050ub set to 6 using Natural picture mode auto Iris off medium power consumption with preset picture mode set to off. I was watching Star Trek Into Darkness 4k Disc and with the optimizer on I felt that the actors faces were softer and less detailed to the increased brightness. With the optimizer turned off the faces were more detailed and the outlines of the faces were much more crisp. Still brilliant dynamic range so that spectral highlights were still plenty detailed and vivid. Braveheart 4k is another where the daylight scenes where there is shadows and beams of lighting peaking through were like being outside in those real world conditions. Honestly I have watched that movie 5 times in its entirety just in the 4k format and it was like watching it for the first time.


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I certainly think it is IMHO. The Panasonic ub820 brings out the best in the Epson 5050 by raising the brightness without lowering your black levels. The detail in shadow and in spectral highlights are an improvement over just the 5050 IMO . I prefer the panny 820 without the optimizer on speaking about the optimizer on the panny 820, slider on the 5050ub set to 6 using Natural picture mode auto Iris off medium power consumption with preset picture mode set to off. I was watching Star Trek Into Darkness 4k Disc and with the optimizer on I felt that the actors faces were softer and less detailed to the increased brightness. With the optimizer turned off the faces were more detailed and the outlines of the faces were much more crisp. Still brilliant dynamic range so that spectral highlights were still plenty detailed and vivid. Braveheart 4k is another where the daylight scenes where there is shadows and beams of lighting peaking through were like being outside in those real world conditions. Honestly I have watched that movie 5 times in its entirety just in the 4k format and it was like watching it for the first time.


So get the UB820 but do not use the optimizer?


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You should get it and decide for yourself on the optimizer. Even without the optimizer IMO theirs is a discernible difference in HDR as I detailed in my earlier post. Of course watching 4k disc is going to give better video and audio than streaming . Still the upconversion of bluray to 4K by the panny 820 gives a very comparative experience to actual 4k discs as long as the source material is of high quality. Skyfall on bluray would be a great example where the upconversion brings out all the detail in all the various settings throughout the movie. I rented Glass on bluray last night which was obviously shot on digital and the razor sharp picture of true 4k was present on the upconversion. You can always return it if you don't feel the same way after your real world viewing experience although I highly doubt you will.
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Would you consider Jeff Meier from Accucal AV a novice since he calibrated my 5040? The picture is better than my calibrated 5040 .Have you taken both projectors apart to compare their internal parts? Do you work for Epson and have access to the software changes that were made? Would you consider Art Feierman from projectorreviews.com a novice because he is quoted as saying HDR performance on the 5050ub is significantly better than anything he achieved in two years of custom curves with the Epson 5040? I understand some people just want to have an opinion even if it not based upon an actual real world experience. Arm chair quarterbacks always call the right play at the right time but never step out on the field. I will continue to actually pick up the football and play. Much more fun that way.
Opinions are opinions that's why I go by measurements and the 9400/5050 measures almost exactly as the 9300/5040.
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You should get it and decide for yourself on the optimizer. Even without the optimizer IMO theirs is a discernible difference in HDR as I detailed in my earlier post. Of course watching 4k disc is going to give better video and audio than streaming . Still the upconversion of bluray to 4K by the panny 820 gives a very comparative experience to actual 4k discs as long as the source material is of high quality. Skyfall on bluray would be a great example where the upconversion brings out all the detail in all the various settings throughout the movie. I rented Glass on bluray last night which was obviously shot on digital and the razor sharp picture of true 4k was present on the upconversion. You can always return it if you don't feel the same way after your real world viewing experience although I highly doubt you will.
I understand, I just was not aware there was a huge difference in the player from the Panasonic DMP 900 other than the optimizer.

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You should get it and decide for yourself on the optimizer. Even without the optimizer IMO theirs is a discernible difference in HDR as I detailed in my earlier post. Of course watching 4k disc is going to give better video and audio than streaming . Still the upconversion of bluray to 4K by the panny 820 gives a very comparative experience to actual 4k discs as long as the source material is of high quality. Skyfall on bluray would be a great example where the upconversion brings out all the detail in all the various settings throughout the movie. I rented Glass on bluray last night which was obviously shot on digital and the razor sharp picture of true 4k was present on the upconversion. You can always return it if you don't feel the same way after your real world viewing experience although I highly doubt you will.
I understand, I just was not aware there was a huge difference in the player from the Panasonic DMP 900 other than the optimizer.
I don't believe the 900 allows you to choose your source and set the nits by choosing you know projector / low LCD I also don't remember on the 900 if there was a ability when you click on the HTR button actually I don't think there is one on 900 to choose your room conditions basically I think those two features on the ub820 make a difference in my opinion keep in mind I have never viewed anything through the 900
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I don't believe the 900 allows you to choose your source and set the nits by choosing you know projector / low LCD I also don't remember on the 900 if there was a ability when you click on the HTR button actually I don't think there is one on 900 to choose your room conditions basically I think those two features on the ub820 make a difference in my opinion keep in mind I have never viewed anything through the 900
No it does not, but does function matter if the optimizer is not being used? I believe that is part of the optimizes feature but I could be wrong as I do not have the manual.

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Would you consider Jeff Meier from Accucal AV a novice since he calibrated my 5040? The picture is better than my calibrated 5040 .Have you taken both projectors apart to compare their internal parts? Do you work for Epson and have access to the software changes that were made? Would you consider Art Feierman from projectorreviews.com a novice because he is quoted as saying HDR performance on the 5050ub is significantly better than anything he achieved in two years of custom curves with the Epson 5040? I understand some people just want to have an opinion even if it not based upon an actual real world experience. Arm chair quarterbacks always call the right play at the right time but never step out on the field. I will continue to actually pick up the football and play. Much more fun that way.
Opinions are opinions that's why I go by measurements and the 9400/5050 measures almost exactly as the 9300/5040.
Since you're all about specs and measurements instead of opinions which even a professional review is just an opinion, by actual people who own the projector, what projector do you own and why.
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I don't believe the 900 allows you to choose your source and set the nits by choosing you know projector / low LCD I also don't remember on the 900 if there was a ability when you click on the HTR button actually I don't think there is one on 900 to choose your room conditions basically I think those two features on the ub820 make a difference in my opinion keep in mind I have never viewed anything through the 900
No it does not, but does function matter if the optimizer is not being used? I believe that is part of the optimizes feature but I could be wrong as I do not have the manual.
With the various settings on the 900 you may be able to fine tune it where you achieve a similar level of HDR performance I believe the 820 offers even without the optimizer but I think it would require time effort and skill. I am in short supply of all three with my wife and two small children using up my supply of those three LOL. I haven't really explored the 820 Epson combo as much as I would like. I still may find the optimizer useful upon further tinkering. I have also not tried the Epson 5050ub with a less expensive player. Maybe using all the settings on the 5050ub with a less expensive 4K player might achieve the same unbelievable picture quality I have witnessed over the last five days. I am just overjoyed to have a projector/4k player combo that finally rivals my LG OLED television. Since it so much bigger than my 55 inch OLED the experience is that much more immersive. I wish you the best of luck with your experimenting.
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Finally someone who actually owns a projector like I do and is as blown away as I am. Quite frankly little tired of reading post about people who never owned either the 5040 or the 5050 saying that it couldn't possibly be worth the extra $1,000. Having own both of them it is certainly worth the extra $1,000. I'm all for people who have differing opinions and having an intelligent discussion about them because everybody's eyesight is different everybody's preferences different and everybody's room conditions are different but if you honestly haven't seen either projector or if only seen one or the other how could I take your opinion seriously.
I’m pretty sure myself and @Alaric have been BIGGING IT UP about this projector for quite some time.

Very few projectors can genuinely be considered an alternative to a JVC and this is definitely one of them.
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