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There's a trick for this, and it is in the set up of the memory. Small back adjustments don't work, so gently go forwards to the point you want and then save the position. If you need to go back, do a very large adjustment and then slowly creep forwards.
It a well known Epson thing!
Which way is forwards (and which is back)? Since we're talking left/right and up/down being off, I must say I'm stumped.
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Which way is forwards (and which is back)? Since we're talking left/right and up/down being off, I must say I'm stumped.
The exact direction isn't important from what i recall you just need to keep going in one direction to reach the point you want to save.
If you go past, then go massively past and move then slowly back.

Doing little back and forwards to get it spot on confuses it and it is these adjustments that it misses and then it appears like the lens memory is sloppy.

I seem to recall there being a big pdf how to but can't find it to link at the moment.

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Ok, that makes sense. I encountered similar behavior when trying to optimize the focus so I know what you mean.
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At this point, if I can find a 5040UB refurb for $1150 or the new one plus a replacement lamp for $2k, is it worth the upgrade to the 5050UB? I heard there's some optimization for the pixel shifting so the 5050UB is more clear, but is it a significant difference? The 5050UB already doesn't have as sharp of an image as the BenQ HT5550, compromising that sharpness plus more for the 5040UB might be too hard to swallow. Also, is the 5050UB's HDR significantly better than the 5040UB's?

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Really quick dumb question, got my 5050 today but will Friday before I can install it, is it okay to leave the box sitting on it's side till I install it?
Like I said dumb.

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I would never let anything designed to be horizontal stay vertical for too long. Only Epson themselves could speak to whether being placed vertically for an extended period of time negatively affects internal components.
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Watching Blackhawk Down 4K right now with BEQ and this is another jaw dropping audio and video experience. Using Alaric’s HDR accurate settings with the slider at 5 and lamp in ECO. I have not had to adjust a thing it’s just perfect. The color saturation, details and black levels. I am one happy camper right now the Epson paired with this Panasonic player is a match made in heaven.


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Why do people keep saying that Epson colors are not accurate? Here's what Projector Reviews are saying:

"Right out of the box, the color performance of this Epson is definitely a cut above. Epson has long been reported in many reviews, as putting out home projectors with really good color “right out of the box” without adjustment, for many years. No, they aren’t the best. Overall, I’d say Sony HT projectors offer the closest to calibrated color, of any brands, without doing any adjustment. But, that said, Epson may well be the closest to them."

I haven't messed with any color settings at all and it looks great to me out of the box.
I would say depending upon the picture mode the color seems to be very accurate judging by human eye alone I'm sure once use instruments you are going to find differences from what would be be considered ideal. But the picture looks so good out of the box I am anxious about what happens as the lamp dims every so slightly in the next 50-100 hours as is normal with a new projector. But I would put my 6050 up against a JVC DLA-NX5 and without telling people anything about either projector which picture they prefer. Obviously both projectors have their pros and cons. I dont feel you can go wrong with either. My only complaint of the 6050 so far would be some slight judder in a small percentage of panning scenes. Not a deal breaker by any means but worth mentioning. Good example would be the camera moving towards the pyramid panning over the desert at the beginning of X-men Apocalypse. Tough scene for any display in terms of judder.
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At this point, if I can find a 5040UB refurb for $1150 or the new one plus a replacement lamp for $2k, is it worth the upgrade to the 5050UB? I heard there's some optimization for the pixel shifting so the 5050UB is more clear, but is it a significant difference? The 5050UB already doesn't have as sharp of an image as the BenQ HT5550, compromising that sharpness plus more for the 5040UB might be too hard to swallow. Also, is the 5050UB's HDR significantly better than the 5040UB's?
The 5040 put out a great image. I was very impressed with everything including HDR. That is until I pressed the power button on my 5050 and put my Avenger Infinity War 4K disc in my Panasonic ub820. Then I couldn't unsee how poor HDR really was on my 5040. The 5050 has a sharper more detailed image overall in SDR or HDR. My wife noticed the increased sharpness and resolution. she isn't usually one to notice or comment. HDR is night and day difference. I had two Epson 5040s with power supply issues. So I was skeptical of how much better could the 5050ub be in real world viewing. It just is.
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I know people have asked and I’ve searched and can’t find Alaric’s settings for HDR movies. Can someone please send me a link to his settings?


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The exact direction isn't important from what i recall you just need to keep going in one direction to reach the point you want to save.
If you go past, then go massively past and move then slowly back.

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plus, you can reverse / flip the direction in the settings anyway. up is down, down is up. and also depends if your projector is hanging or standing.

But the "start big, then go small" is a great tip. Thanks!

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The 5040 put out a great image. I was very impressed with everything including HDR. That is until I pressed the power button on my 5050 and put my Avenger Infinity War 4K disc in my Panasonic ub820. Then I couldn't unsee how poor HDR really was on my 5040. The 5050 has a sharper more detailed image overall in SDR or HDR. My wife noticed the increased sharpness and resolution. she isn't usually one to notice or comment. HDR is night and day difference. I had two Epson 5040s with power supply issues. So I was skeptical of how much better could the 5050ub be in real world viewing. It just is.
You convinced me with the HDR How about the sharpness? How much % improvement would you say over the 5040UB? The $1150 refurb price is really tempting lol

Would a JVC X790R provide as good black levels, brightness, HDR but also much improved sharpness due to using x4 instead of x2 lens shifting?

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GOOD DAY EVERYONE,

New EPSON 5050ub Owner here... Appreciate all the information provided on this Beast of projector on this forum. I have now named it the Kraken for my own pleasure. Any who, I have to give thanks to @Alaric rewatched Wonder woman 4k last night and enjoyed the pictue view with hdr bright option.. have yet to use accurate. I do have a question, and as of now I am currently running a 4k uhd sony x700 at 24hz 4k hdr.. only reason is all cabling at this point is 1.4 hdmi 10gb and thats because im coming from a epson 5010. I will upgrade cabling soon enough.

My question is regarding all the "new tech" options i show on here ... I noticed when running a 4k movie 4k enhancement is greyed out.. and running 1080p bluray may also show 4k enhancement with presets... does anyone know what each preset do??

Also HDR Slider, I used again "HDR" bright setting @Alaric calibrations provided.. I do notice that going high to low brightens the image .. but not certain how to tell what may be the sweet spot?.. learning as I go with this new beast and hope to get some feedback.. Oh and one last question @Alaric , any recommendations to gaming calibration setting and/or 3d movies?
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The 5040 put out a great image. I was very impressed with everything including HDR. That is until I pressed the power button on my 5050 and put my Avenger Infinity War 4K disc in my Panasonic ub820. Then I couldn't unsee how poor HDR really was on my 5040. The 5050 has a sharper more detailed image overall in SDR or HDR. My wife noticed the increased sharpness and resolution. she isn't usually one to notice or comment. HDR is night and day difference. I had two Epson 5040s with power supply issues. So I was skeptical of how much better could the 5050ub be in real world viewing. It just is.
You convinced me with the HDR [IMG class=inlineimg]/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif[/IMG] How about the sharpness? How much % improvement would you say over the 5040UB? The $1150 refurb price is really tempting lol

Would a JVC X790R provide as good black levels, brightness, HDR but also much improved sharpness due to using x4 instead of x2 lens shifting?
HDR improvement is night and day difference for me from the 5040. Black level, contrast, depth, sharpness and resolution I would say about 25%. Black level increase would be only about 10% but then again the black levels were really good on the 5040 already.

I have not seen the X790R but I have seen the JVC NX7 and NX5. I would take the 5050 over the NX5 due to better HDR IMHO. NX5 was noticeably sharper and more detailed but not amazingly so. I sit at 12 ft as was the demo. The NX7 blew me away in almost every respect as did the 6050. I would need a side by side to compare to which one throws a better image. I was just too in awe of each to be objective. I have had the 6050 for three days now and each 4K disc has me dropping my jaw. This is the end of Infinity War on my 6050 from 12 ft back. Blacked out theater with black masking panels on a 120 inch 16:9 Seymour Glacier White screen.
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Another shot from my 6050 viewing Guardians of the Galaxy 2 only using my phone. Doesn't nearly do it justice.
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GOOD DAY EVERYONE,

New EPSON 5050ub Owner here... Appreciate all the information provided on this Beast of projector on this forum. I have now named it the Kraken for my own pleasure. Any who, I have to give thanks to @Alaric rewatched Wonder woman 4k last night and enjoyed the pictue view with hdr bright option.. have yet to use accurate. I do have a question, and as of now I am currently running a 4k uhd sony x700 at 24hz 4k hdr.. only reason is all cabling at this point is 1.4 hdmi 10gb and thats because im coming from a epson 5010. I will upgrade cabling soon enough.

My question is regarding all the "new tech" options i show on here ... I noticed when running a 4k movie 4k enhancement is greyed out.. and running 1080p bluray may also show 4k enhancement with presets... does anyone know what each preset do??

Also HDR Slider, I used again "HDR" bright setting @Alaric calibrations provided.. I do notice that going high to low brightens the image .. but not certain how to tell what may be the sweet spot?.. learning as I go with this new beast and hope to get some feedback.. Oh and one last question @Alaric , any recommendations to gaming calibration setting and/or 3d movies?
with a 4k signal 4k enhancement is always on no matter what. With a 1080p signal you can enable/disable
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Another shot from my 6050 viewing Guardians of the Galaxy 2 only using my phone. Doesn't nearly do it justice.


More screen shots please and tips on how to take them properly . I have so many pictures but they pale in comparison

I did like this gem though great details on the shadow and the sun and sky looked great





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Gosh I am just so chicken sh*t I so want to pull the trigger on this projector I even have it in my cart ready to click buy. Just such a cheap a$$ and don't want to spend the 3k, LOL.

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Here are my shots from when I first set it up, just using 'our planet' as a test image. The jungle and desert scenes are with some ambient light since this is our family room and we have panel shades on the back door that block out most light, but not all during the day (also not sure why the insect shots are upside down, they also arent particularly indicative of what you see since theres motion so they end up a bit blurry in shots, in real life its amazing detail)
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Here are my shots from when I first set it up, just using 'our planet' as a test image. The jungle and desert scenes are with some ambient light since this is our family room and we have panel shades on the back door that block out most light, but not all during the day (also not sure why the insect shots are upside down, they also arent particularly indicative of what you see since theres motion so they end up a bit blurry in shots, in real life its amazing detail)
Those screen shots are impressive. Are you using the 5050 or the 6050? Thanks!
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those screen shots are impressive. Are you using the 5050 or the 6050? Thanks!
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Another shot from my 6050 viewing Guardians of the Galaxy 2 only using my phone. Doesn't nearly do it justice.


More screen shots please and tips on how to take them properly . I have so many pictures but they pale in comparison

I did like this gem though great details on the shadow and the sun and sky looked great





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Thanks for sharing that is a beautiful shot Logan looks amazing on these projectors
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HDR improvement is 200% honestly if not more. Black level, contrast, depth, sharpness and resolution I would say about 25%. Black level increase would be only about 10% but then again the black levels were really good on the 5040 already.

I have not seen the X790R but I have seen the JVC NX7 and NX5. I would take the 5050 over the NX5 due to better HDR IMHO. NX5 was noticeably sharper and more detailed but not amazingly so. I sit at 12 ft as was the demo. The NX7 blew me away in almost every respect as did the 6050. I would need a side by side to compare to which one throws a better image. I was just too in awe of each to be objective. I have had the 6050 for three days now and each 4K disc has me dropping my jaw. This is the end of Infinity War on my 6050 from 12 ft back. Blacked out theater with black masking panels on a 120 inch 16:9 Seymour Glacier White screen.
What Color Mode and Power/Fan setting are you using?

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So hooked my 5050 up a little while ago, and one thing I noticed was it seemed to take a little longer to switch input devices than on the 5040, this could be just me not sure.
I was using the 5040 on Bright Cinema + Eco Mode and left Rec.2020 on, I tried Bright Cinema on the 5050 but it's not the same for now I am using Dynamic + Eco mode which I so far enjoy the most.

Anybody that's using Eco mode do you have any settings you can share?

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HDR improvement is 200% honestly if not more. Black level, contrast, depth, sharpness and resolution I would say about 25%. Black level increase would be only about 10% but then again the black levels were really good on the 5040 already.

I have not seen the X790R but I have seen the JVC NX7 and NX5. I would take the 5050 over the NX5 due to better HDR IMHO. NX5 was noticeably sharper and more detailed but not amazingly so. I sit at 12 ft as was the demo. The NX7 blew me away in almost every respect as did the 6050. I would need a side by side to compare to which one throws a better image. I was just too in awe of each to be objective. I have had the 6050 for three days now and each 4K disc has me dropping my jaw. This is the end of Infinity War on my 6050 from 12 ft back. Blacked out theater with black masking panels on a 120 inch 16:9 Seymour Glacier White screen.
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I have been using Bright Cinema with Medium Power Consumption and preset 3 with high speed auto Iris. I usually don't really dial in any settings until the lamp hours get to around 100 and let the lamp brightness start to normalize. I have heard alaric's settings work really well. I will play around with his settings this weekend
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Has anyone been able to watch YouTube videos in 4K/60hz?

My 5050ub works up to 4K/30hz but at 4K/60hz, the video either won't load at all or it's extremely choppy and unwatchable.

I have an expensive fiber optic HDMI cable and my receiver is set up to 4:4:4 on all HDMI inputs/outputs.

If anyone can get 4K/60hz for YouTube to work, please let me know.
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Has anyone been able to watch YouTube videos in 4K/60hz?

My 5050ub works up to 4K/30hz but at 4K/60hz, the video either won't load at all or it's extremely choppy and unwatchable.

I have an expensive fiber optic HDMI cable and my receiver is set up to 4:4:4 on all HDMI inputs/outputs.

If anyone can get 4K/60hz for YouTube to work, please let me know.
What streaming device are you using with YouTube?
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What streaming device are you using with YouTube?
I'm using the Amazon Fire 4K (2nd generation). It's on the latest firmware.
Everything looks great but it can't do 4K/60. One of the reasons I bought the 5050 was it's supposed ability to stream YT in 4K/60.

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