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Dumb question of the day:

What does a 'power conditioner' do?
makes you feel good. other than that - not much.

but, if you want to feel real good - you would need something like this:
https://www.cdw.com/product/APC-AV-S...g!307075860842!

i stopped paying attention to this non-sense long time ago. perfection is unreachable, so, it is just a waste of time.
but, that one above at least has a battery backup, a complete rip-off is the something like this audioquest:

https://www.audioadvice.com/audioque...BoCg4gQAvD_BwE

Low-Z Power Noise-Dissipation Systems. OMG.

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$750?!?
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Dumb question of the day:

What does a 'power conditioner' do?
makes you feel good. [IMG class=inlineimg]/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif[/IMG] other than that - not much.

but, if you want to feel real good - you would need something like this:
https://www.cdw.com/product/APC-AV-S...g!307075860842!

i stopped paying attention to this non-sense long time ago. perfection is unreachable, so, it is just a waste of time.
So obviously there are lots of different opinions on power conditioners and their effectiveness. I personally believe in them. Here is a article to read more.

https://www.crutchfield.com/S-6gfxQT...challenge.html
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So obviously there are lots of different opinions on power conditioners and their effectiveness. I personally believe in them. Here is a article to read more.

https://www.crutchfield.com/S-6gfxQT...challenge.html
as i had once a $5K turntable - i get it. but, i still do believe into spending money on speakers, class-A amps, but, spending money on $Xk 'conditioners' that have 2-3 $20 electrolytic condensers on the usual 120V line - nope.
and i also do not believe into evil harmonics sneaking from one amp into another via AC feeding line. it is a total marketing BS. but, of course, to each - his own.
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I fished both HDMIs through the ceiling, tried out both, and both were successful in my primary goal - no handshake issues.

In the end, it was easier to leave both in place, one for my 4K blu-ray player, one for my htpc. Nice knowing I am running the newest tech HDMI cables. I spent all this money on a shiny new PJ, might as well spend a little more on a couple of nice HDMI cables. Not a time to get cheap...
Sounds like you have it covered, excellent. Hopefully your cable fishing isn't too sealed up, since probably 5 years from now you'll need different cables as they continue to change the HDMI standard...
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So obviously there are lots of different opinions on power conditioners and their effectiveness. I personally believe in them. Here is a article to read more.

https://www.crutchfield.com/S-6gfxQT...challenge.html
as i had once a $5K turntable - i get it. but, i still do believe into spending money on speakers, class-A amps, but, spending money on $Xk 'conditioners' that have 2-3 $20 electrolytic condensers on the usual 120V line - nope. [IMG class=inlineimg]/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif[/IMG]
and i also do not believe into evil harmonics sneaking from one amp into another via AC feeding line. it is a total marketing BS. but, of course, to each - his own.
Interesting that you are able to hear a difference between an Audio Technia and a Rega Planar turntable and are willing to pay for that $3-4k price difference but hear no difference with a power conditioner. We all spend where it makes sense to us. Cool that you are that into vinyl.
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$750?!?
Or something like this... Perhaps with a bit more objective value - AVS 2000 voltage stabilizer
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Or something like this... Perhaps with a bit more objective value - AVS 2000 voltage stabilizer
At least that one is only $400 used. Does have the cool factor tho...
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So obviously there are lots of different opinions on power conditioners and their effectiveness. I personally believe in them. Here is a article to read more.

https://www.crutchfield.com/S-6gfxQT...challenge.html



I blind tested these as well. Lower noise floor and headroom for power amps that are protected. Yes, you can see and hear a difference. Mine is in my signature. Furman for the win......

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Just got my 5050UB installed last weekend. Upgraded from a Pioneer Elite FJP-1 circa 2009. WOW! what a difference, no surprise.
I have loaded Alaric's calibration settings and love them for 4K movies and material. For HD sports I feel I need different settings. Close ups look great, but when the entire field or court is shown, the image is almost too bright and not crisp. I have tinkered some, but still not happy with the results. What settings are others watching sports with ?



https://www.projectorreviews.com/eps...tion-settings/

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I blind tested these as well. Lower noise floor and headroom for power amps that are protected. Yes, you can see and hear a difference. Mine is in my signature. Furman for the win......
https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-list...&condition=new

$1500+ ?!?

Almost as expensive as the 5050...
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Add upper level Audioquest NRG power cables too. I spent years trying to get rid of the crud in audio and video. It was way cheaper than my time. Don't buy it if you can't hear/see a difference......

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The Delong cable works!!!

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1


Story: I saw that all three cables were sitting at the local Post Office, waiting to go onto the truck for delivery. Being the insane person I am, I went over there to intercept the cables, so as not to wait a few hours to get them delivered. Only the Delong was easily locatable, so I took that one home and tried it out. And it friggin' works! No handshake issues.

I believe this was the cheapest of the three, so the other two are going back.

Now I get to see 4K blu-ray and streaming in all their glory. Holy cow - I am sooo impressed by this projector.

Now, if I can only get the wife to admit that she sees a difference compared to the old Sony. "Looks like a regular VCR tape to me..."
That is great! Mine arrived today but my 6050 will remain boxed up for another two weeks as I struggle to pick a paint color and order my CCM683 Atmos speakers. Good call on ordering all three, I thought you only went with the other one.

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I fished both HDMIs through the ceiling, tried out both, and both were successful in my primary goal - no handshake issues.

In the end, it was easier to leave both in place, one for my 4K blu-ray player, one for my htpc. Nice knowing I am running the newest tech HDMI cables. I spent all this money on a shiny new PJ, might as well spend a little more on a couple of nice HDMI cables. Not a time to get cheap...
Doesn't your blu-ray run through your receiver? Don't get caught up in the excitement and throw money away, you should only need one HDMI cable to your projector?
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Doesn't your blu-ray run through your receiver? Don't get caught up in the excitement and throw money away, you should only need one HDMI cable to your projector?
I wish it did...

My receiver is pre-4K, so if I try to pass the 4K blu-ray video signal through it, I have handshake issues with the feed to the PJ. I get no picture.

Routing the 4K blu-ray directly to the PJ is the only way I get 4K video.

I can route my htpc through my receiver to the PJ because those movies are only 1080p, not 4K.

Makes sense?
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I have 2 older Monster brand power conditioners/surge protectors. I am not worried about surges or grid reliability what so ever. They do make convenient power strips... normally thats all i use them for.... but recently after getting a new cable box and monolith 7x i developed a humm in all my speakers. Tried a bunch of stuff including new cable line and seperating a bunch of power cables and speaker wires. In the end the only thing that worked was running the coaxil cable tv line through the monster power conditioner. Im never the guy to use those coaxil portions of power conditioners ever.... but this time it worked.
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I have 2 older Monster brand power conditioners/surge protectors. I am not worried about surges or grid reliability what so ever. They do make convenient power strips... normally thats all i use them for.... but recently after getting a new cable box and monolith 7x i developed a humm in all my speakers. Tried a bunch of stuff including new cable line and seperating a bunch of power cables and speaker wires. In the end the only thing that worked was running the coaxil cable tv line through the monster power conditioner. Im never the guy to use those coaxil portions of power conditioners ever.... but this time it worked.
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I wish it did...

My receiver is pre-4K, so if I try to pass the 4K blu-ray video signal through it, I have handshake issues with the feed to the PJ. I get no picture.

Routing the 4K blu-ray directly to the PJ is the only way I get 4K video.

I can route my htpc through my receiver to the PJ because those movies are only 1080p, not 4K.

Makes sense?
Yep, that makes sense but I think I would take the $100 the extra cable cost and put it toward a new receiver. I don't know what receivers you like but you can get crazy good deals on a 2018 Denon that would give you 4k, HDMI 2.0/HDCP 2.2, Atmos and Audyssey.

However, you might buy real high end receivers so the $100 would not make that big of a difference?
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On Amazon, there are 35 user reviews. Every reviewer received the 5050 free. How can it be that Epson is giving away so many $3,000 projectors. While some of the reviews are in-depth and decent, some are just a few paragraphs long and basically just say, "great projector."

https://www.amazon.com/Epson-Home-Ci...pe=all_reviews
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It's part of their Amazon Vine program. They get things for free and "review" them. I lucked out and found someone selling one. Snagged it for $1800 on Facebook marketplace. Unopened. She clearly just put up a generic review and sold it sealed to make money. Pure profit for them and I got a sweet discount.

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budget-oriented 4K receiver?

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Yep, that makes sense but I think I would take the $100 the extra cable cost and put it toward a new receiver. I don't know what receivers you like but you can get crazy good deals on a 2018 Denon that would give you 4k, HDMI 2.0/HDCP 2.2, Atmos and Audyssey.

However, you might buy real high end receivers so the $100 would not make that big of a difference?
You make a very good point.

One of the HDMIs is going back, and now I'm shopping for a new, budget-oriented receiver.

Any recommendations???
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You make a very good point.

One of the HDMIs is going back, and now I'm shopping for a new, budget-oriented receiver.

Any recommendations???
Yes, I will send you a PM so we don't hijack the thread into a discussion on receivers. If you want lots of opinions, create a post in the "Receivers, Amps and Processors" forum.
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I wish it did...

My receiver is pre-4K, so if I try to pass the 4K blu-ray video signal through it, I have handshake issues with the feed to the PJ. I get no picture.

Routing the 4K blu-ray directly to the PJ is the only way I get 4K video.

I can route my htpc through my receiver to the PJ because those movies are only 1080p, not 4K.

Makes sense?
What you could do is set your's source units to 1080P because the Epson doesn't an amazing job at upscaling the image and when funds become available then change your AVR.

Not sure what's your dream Home Cinema setup is, whether you want to go Atmos and how many or you just want a traditional 5.1 or 7.1 setup but you'd be better to think this over before jumping as the budget 4K AVR are more restricting for expansion.

Personally I'm running a 7.2 setup and can't foresee myself upgrading to Atmos any time soon.

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I have a 7.2 setup, no upgrading to Atmos, etc. down the road. I'm happy with my 7.2.

Looks like people like Denon, and the outgoing AVRX3400H hits my sweet spot at $500 (50% discount from MSRP). I can return one of my new HDMI cables and save some money that way as well.
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I have a 7.2 setup, no upgrading to Atmos, etc. down the road. I'm happy with my 7.2.

Looks like people like Denon, and the outgoing AVRX3400H hits my sweet spot at $500 (50% discount from MSRP). I can return one of my new HDMI cables and save some money that way as well.



Just make sure to set the HDMI on it to extended (pass 4K 60Hz) and run all 8 positions for Audyssey setup (if it has it).
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That explains the High Lamp mode and wanting a brighter setup, 160” is almost like going to the local cinema at home. LOL
i'm running 147" scope setup which is ~155" 16:9 equivalent and the projector is 19' away from a spandex screen with 0.6 gain. forget hdr, i just want more brightness period.


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Is this thread still about the Epson 5050UB and 6050UB projectors?
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Interesting that you are able to hear a difference between an Audio Technia and a Rega Planar turntable and are willing to pay for that $3-4k price difference but hear no difference with a power conditioner. We all spend where it makes sense to us. Cool that you are that into vinyl.
i have a much older version of APC one - similar to this:
https://www.amazon.com/APC-11-Outlet...3486&s=gateway

and i tried comparing several of them, up to $400 or so mark and kept that old $30 one. with proper filtration done in power feed circuits of your components all that stuff at power cord level is irrelevant.
any surge protector filters off junk a bit, and it helps, but, what i say - i really think and believe that a $1000 power strip filter and a $30 one work just the same well. and built pretty much the same, as there is not that many ways to construct an LC filter.
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I have a 7.2 setup, no upgrading to Atmos, etc. down the road. I'm happy with my 7.2.

Looks like people like Denon, and the outgoing AVRX3400H hits my sweet spot at $500 (50% discount from MSRP). I can return one of my new HDMI cables and save some money that way as well.
you should. i did not believe it much initially, but, atmos makes a huge difference. may be partially of the way how soundtrack is done and encoded, plus, the sound field itself is absolutely different, if you get a sample encoded into usual 5.1 DTS and then compare it with atmos one - it is like night and day. definitely worth it.

usual issue with atmos is the complexity of ceiling speakers mounts - but, if you use, say, same what i have - an onkyo tx-rz1100 - it works fine with the option where atmos upper speakers are side wall mounted. that is much easier to accommodate comparing to cutting proper speakers into the ceiling. so, there are always options.

speaking of that onkyo - it has a very good pre-amp and dac, but not very good power amp section, so, i use an external power amp with it to pump front 3 speakers. but, cost/features digital wise this onkyo is very good, better than denon or etc. and they keep updating firmware on it to keep it current.
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Is this thread still about the Epson 5050UB and 6050UB projectors?
In the last couple of weeks, my questions and topics have been about the Epson 50505UB and related topics, such as calibration settings, ceiling mounts, HDMI cables that work (or don't) with this PJ, handshake issues and how to resolve them, and affordable receivers that can handle the 4K video sent to the PJ.

I hope my questions and topics have contributed to the interest in and knowledge base about this new PJ. I am grateful for all the information I have gleaned from the AVS community.

My apologies if I have taken the thread off-topic.
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