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After removing the Yamaha Receiver from the equation the Projector and X1X work as should and display automatically a 4K HDR image! The projector is 4K 2.0 not 2.2 and therfore the issue.. Time to swap it out. Thanks everyone
I'm glad you were able to solve your issue I believe you meant to state that the receiver is the issue and time to swap it out

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Are you saying the new Epson 5050 doesn't support 2.2? Cause here are the specs.



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I believe the original poster misspoke they were talking about the receiver not supporting 2.2 and they need to swap the receiver out not the projector

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When you go to Menu - Info what does your Source say. I'm still concerned w/ my installation. I'm not sure when watching TV why it's saying HDMI2. There was some debate on whether to have my 4k HDMI cables go straight from my Xbox 1/BlueRay and Apple4k into HDMI 1 and HDMI2 instead of having them to my Marantz then to HDMI 1 so it doesn't look like they did that.



Also - why doesn't EPSON have an official in here answering questions. Their customer service is OK but they are basically reading from their manual. Would be nice to have an expert Epson support person be able to respond unless that's not allowed on AVS.
It sounds like your DirecTV box is plugged into HDMI 2 for the video signal. it's also plugged into the receiver I would assume it would have to be since you are getting sound from your speakers. I believe you mentioned some while back that you were going to be getting a new 4k receiver anyway at that point I would just run everything into your receiver and then just one HDMI cable from your receiver to the projector. As long as it's all working for now I don't know if it really matters if the projector changes sources for you if you have to change it manually that's a little bit of a pain in the butt.

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LOL. I have spent enough time either over the phone or by text or by email with Epson at this point I feel like they should be paying me. But all opinions here on my own LOL.

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Thank you, I have removed the X1X from the equation and if I use my Roku 4K to stream a Netflix 4K HDR, It will display in 4K, however signal status always shows SDR, and BT.7 not BT 2 etc?



I am thinking it could be my receiver although it says 4K 2.2.. I am going to try to bypass it tonight to see if it shows 4K HDR .
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LOL. I have spent enough time either over the phone or by text or by email with Epson at this point I feel like they should be paying me. But all opinions here on my own LOL.

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HEAT



Can anyone speak to their own 5050 projector how hot the top left and left side of the projector gets when you've had it on for an hour or two?



Mine is set up in a cut out shelf that was professionally done inside a soffit next to the ceiling. There is only 1-2 inches on each side and at the top but a couple feet behind. Since the fans are in the front I was told it shouldn't be an issue but I was curious about how hot the side and top of the projector was when I felt it for the first time because it shut off automatically.



My standby mode was on but I also checked on a heat warning and they said if it had overheated there would be a red blinking button which there is not.
Anytime you enclose anything that generates Heat there is the possibility however remote that your technology could suffer and overheat. You are correct in stating that the fan exhaust it's from the front and as long as the front exhaust is clear you should not have any real issues. It was not clear from your post at least to me whether you had the projector shut down due to overheating. I believe you did not. I would expect your projector to feel a little warmer because it is an enclosed space.

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Can anyone speak to their own 5050 projector how hot the top left and left side of the projector gets when you've had it on for an hour or two?

Mine is set up in a cut out shelf that was professionally done inside a soffit next to the ceiling. There is only 1-2 inches on each side and at the top but a couple feet behind. Since the fans are in the front I was told it shouldn't be an issue but I was curious about how hot the side and top of the projector was when I felt it for the first time because it shut off automatically.

My standby mode was on but I also checked on a heat warning and they said if it had overheated there would be a red blinking button which there is not.
I have the 5040 and it does get pretty warm on that one side that the bulb is housed in. I have mine in a soffit to but I also added an exhaust fan to pull fresh air into the projector soffit and out of the room.
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After removing the Yamaha Receiver from the equation the Projector and X1X work as should and display automatically a 4K HDR image! The projector is 4K 2.0 not 2.2 and therfore the issue.. Time to swap it out. Thanks everyone
Your assumption is based on what..... the cable you probably swapped from your amp to the XBox? Almost always the problems are the cable used.

The Epson has the identical spec of a JVC in this.

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Your assumption is based on what..... the cable you probably swapped from your amp to the XBox? Almost always the problems are the cable used.



The Epson has the identical spec of a JVC in this.
I agree that many times the issue is the cable. In this case I think the original poster misspoke. They now believe the Yamaha receiver is the issue not the projector. Because they took the receiver out of the signal path and everything worked correctly I believe using the same cable.

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LOL. I have spent enough time either over the phone or by text or by email with Epson at this point I feel like they should be paying me. But all opinions here on my own LOL.

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I agree that many times the issue is the cable. In this case I think the original poster misspoke. They now believe the Yamaha receiver is the issue not the projector. Because they took the receiver out of the signal path and everything worked correctly I believe using the same cable.

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Yes, Sorry for that dam typo! I meant to state the "receiver" is 2.0 not 2.2 and therefore the issue is the receiver.



Same cable used etc and all signs point to receiver. Thanks all
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I have the 5040 and it does get pretty warm on that one side that the bulb is housed in. I have mine in a soffit to but I also added an exhaust fan to pull fresh air into the projector soffit and out of the room.
Did you install your projector right side up or did you install it upside down? My former Epson projector was installed upside down but the installers put this one right side up and the lens shift literally is all the way down to the inch to fit the bottom of the screen. Curious if I should install it upside down instead.
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This is what the projector looks like in our soffit. I was surprised to see the light on the ceiling above the projector. I'm guessing that would go away if we installed it upside down.
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This is what the projector looks like in our soffit. I was surprised to see the light on the ceiling above the projector. I'm guessing that would go away if we installed it upside down.
You will still see that light because of how close you are to the ceiling regardless of the position of the projector it should no way affect the picture quality the only way that it could is if you were really close to the screen it could reflect off the ceiling and onto the screen but I believe you said you were quite a bit back

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You will still see that light because of how close you are to the ceiling regardless of the position of the projector it should no way affect the picture quality the only way that it could is if you were really close to the screen it could reflect off the ceiling and onto the screen but I believe you said you were quite a bit back

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Those lightly colored walls will affect the picture quality. Too much light reflecting. I just removed most of my black sheets and replaced it with 49 yards of velvet. There is a noticeable increase in picture quality

Ordered another 40 yards of velvet.

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This is what the projector looks like in our soffit. I was surprised to see the light on the ceiling above the projector. I'm guessing that would go away if we installed it upside down.
Mine is right side up. But I have just a little more space around the projector.





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Those lightly colored walls will affect the picture quality. Too much light reflecting. I just removed most of my black sheets and replaced it with 49 yards of velvet. There is a noticeable increase in picture quality

Ordered another 40 yards of velvet.

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Mine is right side up. But I have just a little more space around the projector.











Absolutely beautiful home theater well done

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Has anyone gone from a 5040 to a 5050? Is it worth upgrading? My HDMI 1 is out on my 5040, trying to decide whether to get a 5040 refurb or a 5050
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Mine is right side up. But I have just a little more space around the projector.





I like the slide out. Do you have to slide that out every time you use it? Also, what did you line your box w/, looks like some type of padding? Is that for noise or heat or what?
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Those lightly colored walls will affect the picture quality. Too much light reflecting. I just removed most of my black sheets and replaced it with 49 yards of velvet. There is a noticeable increase in picture quality

Ordered another 40 yards of velvet.

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Yes, it's why we bought a black diamond 4 years ago and needed the Epson because of the Lumens. We have black out shades but obviously it is still light grey walls. The picture is still great even in the day w/ lights on so that's not been an issue. The problem was this is somewhat of a game room, not a dedicated theatre room like the two above. The room is very large, 25 feet deep by 20 feet wide.
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I like the slide out. Do you have to slide that out every time you use it? Also, what did you line your box w/, looks like some type of padding? Is that for noise or heat or what?
Slide out is for servicing the PJ, connecting cables, firmware, etc. The inside of the box is lined with 1 inch acoustic foam wedge. This is on the sides, top, and back for sound. Without this it would be a echo chamber and make the PJ seem louder.
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Ya i basically have a 30ft HDMI cable (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1) and while im not having as many issues as you guys i think im going to change the cable for a fiber one ( https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1) just to be safe
So got the fiber cable table, test it on my xbox one and no issues, (i only tested the menu) then ran it from my my projector to my receiver, tested the xbox one menu still works, then tried to switch to my apple tv and I get a black screen, tried connecting the apple tv directly (bypassing the receiver) and same thing, so reseted my video settings on my apple tv and by default it gets set to 4k SDR, i can see image with the new cable, i tried switching the mode to 4k HDR and i get a blank screen, i tried my old cheap cable and it took a while but eventually showed up, moved cables around again and the screen stared flickering and eventually went back to black screen.... i guess a need a new cable? i thought i was buying the best, i guess not

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So got the fiber cable table, test it on my xbox one and no issues, (i only tested the menu) then ran it from my my projector to my receiver, tested the xbox one menu still works, then tried to switch to my apple tv and I get a black screen, tried connecting the apple tv directly (bypassing the receiver) and same thing, so reseted my video settings on my apple tv and by default it gets set to 4k SDR, i can see image with the new cable, i tried switching the mode to 4k HDR and i get a blank screen, i tried my old cheap cable and it took a while but eventually showed up, moved cables around again and the screen stared flickering and eventually went back to black screen.... i guess a need a new cable? i thought i was buying the best, i guess not
You went with the ruipro correct? This is the one I currently use between my Denon 6500 and Epson 6050. No issues.

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You went with the ruipro correct? This is the one I currently use between my Denon 6500 and Epson 6050. No issues.

https://www.amazon.com/HDMI-FURUI-HD...8-1&th=1&psc=1

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Yup I went with ruipro. Just ordered the one you linked. I'll update on my results Friday. I got the braided version
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