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Any thoughts on using a slim border screen vs one with the 4 inch black border around? I like the look of the slim frame one but I notice right now with my 3100 that different sources sometimes jump around and it is also hard to get a perfect fit in the first place without having some oversplash. Anyone have any issues using slim frame screen with the 6050?

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If you want a Panamorph lens, you need the 6050 as only the 6050 has the Anamorphic Wide and Horizontal squeeze modes.



The 6050 also includes ISF modes that the 5050 does not have.



The mounting kit that is included with the 6050 is a $300 option on the 5050. The lamp is $300 from Epson. Back cable cover is typically a $50 accessory. The additional year of warranty is not just 1 year extended, but their premium rapid replacement warranty. It’s usually a $300 give or take warranty.



You're not paying $1000 for some gimmicks and a black case. For someone who wants Epson’s best HT lamp projector, the 6050 is the one to get. It’s the full boat. Once you add it all up, the price makes sense IMO.
Could not have said it better myself. 100% agree.

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Have you used the pattern button to make sure the lens is focused properly?

Can you post pics?
I did use the pattern. And in the beginning, everything looks sharp. But when paying closer attention it's not that sharp at all (there is some coloured haze around the white line). See pics.

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Does it look like this when displaying the menu/settings from the projector?

That definitely is not focused like it should be.

I would give Epson tech support a call and if the can’t fix it with a hard reset or something, I would be requesting a new projector.
The menu looks sharper but also has a purple/blue/green haze around it when paying close attention.

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If you are using any KEYSTONE adjustments at all...even just by a minimum "1", it will distort all straight lines up close. That may also give it a purple haze. Remove all KEYSTONE settings to "0" and look at it again 👍
I did not use any keystone. Checked it twice, and reset to default just to be sure.

Made some more pics, see attachment. The most blurry one of the clock is 4k resolution. It's even way more blurry then 1080p.

I notice when using the panel alignment there is always a purple haze above the white line when looking up close. This haze will only disappear when I align the red color more downwards. But that makes the red line visible so that's not good.

My phone actually captures more haze (green/red/purple-ish) then I can see on the screen.

When looking at the letter "t" I can see that the horizontal bar on the t should be 2 pixels wide. Up close it's more like 2 pixels wide and some colored haze on both sides. When I really focus on getting the picture clear I can make it 2 pixels wide but then other uniformity's appear.

What I find really strange is that the left side of the ^ symbol in the bottom right corner is always blurred. The right side seems kind of straight although somewhat blurry. But the left side of the ^ symbol is completely out of focus.

I did try all kinds of zooming, lens shifting etc. But the left side of the ^ symbol always stays blurry for some reason.

Will call Epson right away on Monday.
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What ceiling mounts are you guys using for your 5050UB? Mine just showed up and I have this mount currently to install.


https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1


It was one of the most frequently highly rated mounts I could find when I was researching, but having opened up the projector and lifted it out, I feel like I need a crane to hold it up. This mount says it can handle 30lbs and the 5050UB is less than 25lbs. How much can I stop worrying with this mount?


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I did use the pattern. And in the beginning, everything looks sharp. But when paying closer attention it's not that sharp at all (there is some coloured haze around the white line). See pics.



The menu looks sharper but also has a purple/blue/green haze around it when paying close attention.



I did not use any keystone. Checked it twice, and reset to default just to be sure.

Made some more pics, see attachment. The most blurry one of the clock is 4k resolution. It's even way more blurry then 1080p.

I notice when using the panel alignment there is always a purple haze above the white line when looking up close. This haze will only disappear when I align the red color more downwards. But that makes the red line visible so that's not good.

My phone actually captures more haze (green/red/purple-ish) then I can see on the screen.

When looking at the letter "t" I can see that the horizontal bar on the t should be 2 pixels wide. Up close it's more like 2 pixels wide and some colored haze on both sides. When I really focus on getting the picture clear I can make it 2 pixels wide but then other uniformity's appear.

What I find really strange is that the left side of the ^ symbol in the bottom right corner is always blurred. The right side seems kind of straight although somewhat blurry. But the left side of the ^ symbol is completely out of focus.

I did try all kinds of zooming, lens shifting etc. But the left side of the ^ symbol always stays blurry for some reason.

Will call Epson right away on Monday.
You need to set up the convergence. Best wait until the pj has been running for 30 minutes plus before setup it up.

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What ceiling mounts are you guys using for your 5050UB? Mine just showed up and I have this mount currently to install.


https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1


It was one of the most frequently highly rated mounts I could find when I was researching, but having opened up the projector and lifted it out, I feel like I need a crane to hold it up. This mount says it can handle 30lbs and the 5050UB is less than 25lbs. How much can I stop worrying with this mount?


Thanks.
You can stop worrying if you return that $17 mount. You need a safety margin of 4x your weight for hanging stuff. So, if you're hanging 25 lbs, you need a mount rated for at least 100 lbs. Don't cheap out on this. Crashes aren't covered by the warranty. The 6050UB comes with the Chief CHF4000 (or 4500) (available separately from Epson). You can't go wrong with the Epson recommended mount.

https://epson.com/Accessories/Projec...-Kit/p/CHF4500
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So you think you deserve a 6050 ? Interesting....I’m on my fourth 5050UB and I don’t deserve one.


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Your 4th 5050?

What's been wrong with all those???

Psu problems like the old 5040?

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You can stop worrying if you return that $17 mount. You need a safety margin of 4x your weight for hanging stuff. So, if you're hanging 25 lbs, you need a mount rated for at least 100 lbs. Don't cheap out on this. Crashes aren't covered by the warranty. The 6050UB comes with the Chief CHF4000 (or 4500) (available separately from Epson). You can't go wrong with the Epson recommended mount.

https://epson.com/Accessories/Projec...-Kit/p/CHF4500

!!! Four times the weight! I obviously know just enough to be really, really dangerous. I'd love more suggestions of info here from any other owners too. Thanks guys.
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!!! Four times the weight! I obviously know just enough to be really, really dangerous. I'd love more suggestions of info here from any other owners too. Thanks guys.
FYI, that comes from a guy that owns a company that manufactures hardware for hanging commercial light fixtures. We talked a bit when I needed non-standard hardware for hanging a custom built 100 lb light fixture.
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What ceiling mounts are you guys using for your 5050UB? Mine just showed up and I have this mount currently to install.


https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1


It was one of the most frequently highly rated mounts I could find when I was researching, but having opened up the projector and lifted it out, I feel like I need a crane to hold it up. This mount says it can handle 30lbs and the 5050UB is less than 25lbs. How much can I stop worrying with this mount?


Thanks.
If you take 10 minutes to look back through this thread, mounts have been discussed at length at least twice. The Chief is the unanimous choice for many reasons. If you've changed out even one PJ, tried to change even one bulb by yourself, or set up and aligned a new PJ with a Chief after having done any of the same things using other mounts you will understand why Chief is the best mount. Trust us, take the advice.
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So, just talked with Best Buy. I obviously trust your advice here more, but they recommended a $100 Epson and said this is what they sell all of their customers for the 5050UB. It can hold 25lbs. I relayed that the 5050UB weighs 25lbs and they verified that was not an issue. Again, I'd love to know what more of you are mounted with.
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If you take 10 minutes to look back through this thread, mounts have been discussed at length at least twice. The Chief is the unanimous choice for many reasons. If you've changed out even one PJ, tried to change even one bulb by yourself, or set up and aligned a new PJ with a Chief after having done any of the same things using other mounts you will understand why Chief is the best mount. Trust us, take the advice.
I have to agree. I went cheap on some other projectors for the past 10 years and the 6050 finally brought me over to the chief life I will never be going back.

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Are there alternative ceiling mounts to the Epson CHF4000/45000 that people like for the Epson 5050ub? Ones that lock so you don't accidentally move it when you press the power button etc? And that give you confidence it won't fall on your head?
I use this one and it's great for the money.

Looks like the white one is oos, but they have it in black somewhere on Amazon too.

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I did use the pattern. And in the beginning, everything looks sharp. But when paying closer attention it's not that sharp at all (there is some coloured haze around the white line). See pics.







The menu looks sharper but also has a purple/blue/green haze around it when paying close attention.







I did not use any keystone. Checked it twice, and reset to default just to be sure.



Made some more pics, see attachment. The most blurry one of the clock is 4k resolution. It's even way more blurry then 1080p.



I notice when using the panel alignment there is always a purple haze above the white line when looking up close. This haze will only disappear when I align the red color more downwards. But that makes the red line visible so that's not good.



My phone actually captures more haze (green/red/purple-ish) then I can see on the screen.



When looking at the letter "t" I can see that the horizontal bar on the t should be 2 pixels wide. Up close it's more like 2 pixels wide and some colored haze on both sides. When I really focus on getting the picture clear I can make it 2 pixels wide but then other uniformity's appear.



What I find really strange is that the left side of the ^ symbol in the bottom right corner is always blurred. The right side seems kind of straight although somewhat blurry. But the left side of the ^ symbol is completely out of focus.



I did try all kinds of zooming, lens shifting etc. But the left side of the ^ symbol always stays blurry for some reason.



Will call Epson right away on Monday.

Make sure that the projector is lined up properly as far as the geometry goes. If it’s tilted in any direction, the edges will not focus as well as the middle.

You can also adjust the convergence with the tool that’s available in the menu.

If the projector is new, maybe you can just return it and get a new one to avoid having to settle for a refurbished unit from Epson through the warranty.

Hope you get this sorted out!
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You can stop worrying if you return that $17 mount. You need a safety margin of 4x your weight for hanging stuff. So, if you're hanging 25 lbs, you need a mount rated for at least 100 lbs. Don't cheap out on this. Crashes aren't covered by the warranty. The 6050UB comes with the Chief CHF4000 (or 4500) (available separately from Epson). You can't go wrong with the Epson recommended mount.

https://epson.com/Accessories/Projec...-Kit/p/CHF4500

Wondering if you know of any other links. This one brings me to an epson page that is almost completely blank. Whenever I try to search the web for the 4500 or 4000, I just keep finding them discontinued.


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Wondering if you know of any other links. This one brings me to an epson page that is almost completely blank. Whenever I try to search the web for the 4500 or 4000, I just keep finding them discontinued.


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https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...r_ceiling.html


The 4500 is black. The 4000 is white.

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Wondering if you know of any other links. This one brings me to an epson page that is almost completely blank. Whenever I try to search the web for the 4500 or 4000, I just keep finding them discontinued.


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I think the 4000 & 4500 are pretty much the same (same install manual). Try searching both on the web.

https://epson.com/Accessories/Projec...-Kit/p/CHF4000

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...r_ceiling.html
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I did use the pattern. And in the beginning, everything looks sharp. But when paying closer attention it's not that sharp at all (there is some coloured haze around the white line). See pics.



The menu looks sharper but also has a purple/blue/green haze around it when paying close attention.



I did not use any keystone. Checked it twice, and reset to default just to be sure.

Made some more pics, see attachment. The most blurry one of the clock is 4k resolution. It's even way more blurry then 1080p.

I notice when using the panel alignment there is always a purple haze above the white line when looking up close. This haze will only disappear when I align the red color more downwards. But that makes the red line visible so that's not good.

My phone actually captures more haze (green/red/purple-ish) then I can see on the screen.

When looking at the letter "t" I can see that the horizontal bar on the t should be 2 pixels wide. Up close it's more like 2 pixels wide and some colored haze on both sides. When I really focus on getting the picture clear I can make it 2 pixels wide but then other uniformity's appear.

What I find really strange is that the left side of the ^ symbol in the bottom right corner is always blurred. The right side seems kind of straight although somewhat blurry. But the left side of the ^ symbol is completely out of focus.

I did try all kinds of zooming, lens shifting etc. But the left side of the ^ symbol always stays blurry for some reason.

Will call Epson right away on Monday.
If you've truly adjusted the panel alignment correctly, then that looks like an issue with the lens, sort of like chromatic aberration in a camera lens. What disturbs me is that I thought by getting a 6050, you'd be getting a prohector that had been hand selected and reviewed by Epson including one of their best lenses. How could they have sent one with such an obvious focus issue? When you call them, please ask them to explain how they missed the issue in the review process, and let us know what they say.
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If you've truly adjusted the panel alignment correctly, then that looks like an issue with the lens, sort of like chromatic aberration in a camera lens. What disturbs me is that I thought by getting a 6050, you'd be getting a prohector that had been hand selected and reviewed by Epson including one of their best lenses. How could they have sent one with such an obvious focus issue? When you call them, please ask them to explain how they missed the issue in the review process, and let us know what they say.
Do you really believe they hand select these lenses? Sounds like a bunch of marketing bs. to me. They aren't paying people to go lens by lens and hand pick only the best for the 6050. 0% chance that is happening.
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Do you really believe they hand select these lenses? Sounds like a bunch of marketing bs. to me. They aren't paying people to go lens by lens and hand pick only the best for the 6050. 0% chance that is happening.
Hand selected most definitely not. Wouldn't want to trust lens clarity to a human eye in any case. Absolutely a digital scanner determining which are the higher quality lens and which do not go to the 6050. Anything you buy has a marketing angle even that soft taco from Taco Bell. Quoted contrast is higher on 6050 than the 5050. I owned both. 6050 has a sharper image. Worth the extra money? All depends on your room your budget and your end goal.

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Hand selected most definitely not. Wouldn't want to trust lens clarity to a human eye in any case. Absolutely a digital scanner determining which are the higher quality lens and which do not go to the 6050. Anything you buy has a marketing angle even that soft taco from Taco Bell. Quoted contrast is higher on 6050 than the 5050. I owned both. 6050 has a sharper image. Worth the extra money? All depends on your room your budget and your end goal.

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The experience of the 6050 owner above makes me think it's not worth the extra money. The assurance of an optimimum image is what I woukd pay for. It seems that the digital scanner wasn't enough in this case and the blurry human eye review would have been preferable.
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You can stop worrying if you return that $17 mount. You need a safety margin of 4x your weight for hanging stuff. So, if you're hanging 25 lbs, you need a mount rated for at least 100 lbs. Don't cheap out on this. Crashes aren't covered by the warranty. The 6050UB comes with the Chief CHF4000 (or 4500) (available separately from Epson). You can't go wrong with the Epson recommended mount.

https://epson.com/Accessories/Projec...-Kit/p/CHF4500

$300 hurts, but I'm sure it's worth it. Maybe you if you have commercial light hanging expertise you can give me a pointer of two since I'm going to be trying to hang this myself from i-joists...
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The experience of the 6050 owner above makes me think it's not worth the extra money. The assurance of an optimimum image is what I woukd pay for. It seems that the digital scanner wasn't enough in this case and the blurry human eye review would have been preferable.
Neither one of us know what is wrong with this projector. My friend had to return two Ferraris. It happens . Doesn't mean it is not an amazing car.

Might be a defective lens or it could be numerous other parts that affect the sharpness of the image. Sony and JVC have had sharpness images with projectors costing 4 and 5 times what the 6050 costs. Both make amazing projectors. All manufacturers have quality issues from time to time. That is why they offer a warranty.

Is it a pain in the butt? Of course it is. I have been through it more with Epson than most projector owners but they always took care of the issue to my satisfaction. No one can guarantee you won't get a lemon when you buy anything. That is why the warranty coverage matters.

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Biggydeen, a shot in the dark here, but are you sure your screen is absolutely flat? Depending on how it is mounted, there could be a little torqueing of the frame that could throw off the focus. My new 6050 isn't quite as clear in the upper right and lower left. I plan on looking into my screen mounting, which is certainly susceptible to torqueing, in the morning. I'll pull and push on the corners with the pattern displayed and see if that helps. More to follow.

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Just reviewed the Epson CHF4000/4500 instructions. Rating is 50 lbs. Guess Epson doesn't subscribe to the 4x margin of safety theory. I'll be installing my 6050/Chief 4500 in the next week on a 10 ft ceiling. That will be fun.
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You need to set up the convergence. Best wait until the pj has been running for 30 minutes plus before setup it up.
Already did that. Will do it again, this time after keeping it running for a while.

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If you've truly adjusted the panel alignment correctly, then that looks like an issue with the lens, sort of like chromatic aberration in a camera lens. What disturbs me is that I thought by getting a 6050, you'd be getting a prohector that had been hand selected and reviewed by Epson including one of their best lenses. How could they have sent one with such an obvious focus issue? When you call them, please ask them to explain how they missed the issue in the review process, and let us know what they say.
Well, i'm not truly sure if I done this correctly. But no matter how much I allign the red or blue color line, there is always some sort of haze around the white line.

Will go trough the process again today.

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Biggydeen, a shot in the dark here, but are you sure your screen is absolutely flat? Depending on how it is mounted, there could be a little torqueing of the frame that could throw off the focus. My new 6050 isn't quite as clear in the upper right and lower left. I plan on looking into my screen mounting, which is certainly susceptible to torqueing, in the morning. I'll pull and push on the corners with the pattern displayed and see if that helps. More to follow.

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The screen is probably not absolutlely flat. But my older benq w1070 projetor did not had this problem. So I doubt the screen is the problem.

But will take the PJ down from the shelf. Let it run for a while then do the panel allignent. Hopefully this will give me some better results.

If this doesn't help then I will call Epson tomorrow and ask for a new one. Or maybe they can tell me what to do to fix this.

Thanks for all the help so far!
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Neither one of us know what is wrong with this projector. My friend had to return two Ferraris. It happens . Doesn't mean it is not an amazing car.

Might be a defective lens or it could be numerous other parts that affect the sharpness of the image. Sony and JVC have had sharpness images with projectors costing 4 and 5 times what the 6050 costs. Both make amazing projectors. All manufacturers have quality issues from time to time. That is why they offer a warranty.

Is it a pain in the butt? Of course it is. I have been through it more with Epson than most projector owners but they always took care of the issue to my satisfaction. No one can guarantee you won't get a lemon when you buy anything. That is why the warranty coverage matters.

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I hear you, and let's also hope it's user error, but your analogy doesn't super apply here. It would be more like going to a Ferarri dealer and agreeing to pay an extra $50,000 to make sure you get a cherry picked, better accelerating car from the other models with the same exact parts, only to find out it accelerates worse than 99% of the cars. Then throw in the fact that you have no garage to take it to to have it looked at by a professional, and if you wait past 30 days, they'll send you a used car as a replacement.

It's just frustrating that there's no real way to know if the extra money you paid (especially if you don't need the mount) toward getting better specs actually paid off or if you are even getting a good performer. @JewDaddy went through several projectors before realizing what these projectors were really capable of.

I'd just like to know where things went wrong. Does the 6050 digital check only apply to lenses? Does it occur after the entire projector is assembled? Is the issue being caused by something that happened after leaving the factory?

Can you use your Epson connections to get us more info on the process?
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Just finished another convergence round. Took the PJ of the shelf and put it on a table right in front of the screen.

Played some colourfull youtube vids for at least 45min. Then I started the alignment.

Did all the things according to the Epson website. (https://files.support.epson.com/doci..._aligning.html)

Sadly, the alignment is way off. It's just too blurry to make it one straight white line. The following happens:

When adjusting the red line there are multiple rows of pixels being affected (if that makes sense). You can clearly see this in the pictures (see attachment). In one of the pictures, the yellow square has a line of green in it (this should be yellow when perfectly aligned with red). But the red is already pouring out on top. So, when I'm lining up the red with the green to make it yellow the red is even pouring out more.

The problem seems to be that when shifting the red or blue lines multiple rows of pixels are affected. This way I can never perfectly align all three without some purple/blue-ish bleed.

Not sure if I'm doing something wrong but the process seems pretty straight forward. Although may take some time to get them perfectly aligned.

But I still have another problem that does not seem to be related to convergence. The ^ symbol still has a very blurry left side while the right side seems to be more of a straight line (although also somewhat blurry).

How can the left side be totally blurry and pixelated while the right side is completely different? Seems like the lens is projecting a little sideways or something if that makes sense. Although, when looking at the pictures taken with my phone you can clearly see that there is some green/blue bleed causing this pixelation. So might be a convergence problem.

Did multiple setups placing the projector in different angles and using lensshift but that does not help.
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Just reviewed the Epson CHF4000/4500 instructions. Rating is 50 lbs. Guess Epson doesn't subscribe to the 4x margin of safety theory. I'll be installing my 6050/Chief 4500 in the next week on a 10 ft ceiling. That will be fun.
If I can do it by myself in an 11 foot ceiling, anyone can. lol. You want your "margin of safety" where the mount is secured to the ceiling. Don't expect drywall to reliably bear the load. This probably goes without saying but try to get your anchor/lag screws/bolts into a stud and use anchors/lags with the highest weight rating above 50 lbs each that you can make work...for example; ..say 4 anchors rated above 50 pounds each (or higher). If Tarzan could swing on it, you done good.

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If I can do it by myself in an 11 foot ceiling, anyone can. lol. You want your "margin of safety" where the mount is secured to the ceiling. Don't expect drywall to reliably bear the load. This probably goes without saying but try to get your anchor/lag screws/bolts into a stud and use anchors/lags with the highest weight rating above 50 lbs each that you can make work...for example; ..say 4 anchors rated above 50 pounds each (or higher). If Tarzan could swing on it, you done good.

If I had regular 2x6's or something like that, I wouldn't worry about it. I'm still worried about how to put a lag into an i-joist. I keep watching videos on ways to build frame like structures between two i-joists, but I don't want a 4' x 4' hole in my ceiling either.
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