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So I finally tried to hook up my Xbox One X and I get a black screen with no option to change any menu settings in the Epson. The player was previously hooked up to my old projector and should be set up in 1080 P. Any thoughts?


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Funny that when the 5040 came out and we all (I was one of the loudest voices) complained that Epson had cheaped out by not including an 18 gbps HDMI chipset, one fellow on here had responded that Epson had been doing us all a favor, and that they didn't want to have to deal with all of the angry calls of people with "non-working" projectors. I have to admit now that he was probably right about that part. I'm pretty sure that 80% of these issues are cable related and 95% are somehow bandwidth related (incorrect source/receiver settings, etc).


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And I'm not getting the "POP" 3D like image that we all hope for.
hi, i just saw that specific comment. is there something wrong with the way 3d support is implemented on the 5050?
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Just ran the lead direct from my Projector to PC. By default without changing any settings it shows 8 Bit BT2020 HDR10. When I change to 4:4:4 it only gives me the option for 8 Bit. When I change to 4:2:2 it lets me choose 8, 10 or 12. Chose 12 and it worked and let me turn on HDR. So I was running 4:2:2 12 Bit HDR10.
I assume these were these all at 4K60P and so are consistent with a full 18Gbps HDMI link. You also said in another reply that this was with Expanded setting on the Epson when the cable is direct from PC to Epson. However, based on your original comments, if you insert the AVR into the chain, without changing anything else, then the PC will only display at 1080P (Epson still set to Expanded) and you can only get a 4K60P capability from the PC via AVR to Epson with Epson set to Normal. If I have that correct then maybe there is an EDID problem with the AVR when between the PC and the Epson.

Things to try in order to narrow down the problem.
  1. Seems a good idea to update your AVR's software, but worth checking the AVR forum for any gotchas first perhaps.
  2. After updating the AVR (and assuming that doesn't fix the issue), maybe experiment with different nVidia outputs with the AVR in between (and Epson still set to Expanded) to see what if anything works at 4K60P. Maybe start at 4K60P 4:2:0 8bpc (i.e. only 9Gbps interface speed) and work up from there to try to establish at what point the PC fails to see 4K as a valid option. Something else to also try is to set the PC output to Full 0-255 or just Limited 16-235 Video range. Maybe the results of this exercise would provide further clues.
  3. Got any friends that might be able to bring over a different AVR to try?
Edit: I should also add that it is possible that the AVR is not driving the 50 foot HDMI cable as strongly as the nVidia card is. So the cable might work when directly connected between the PC and Epson but might fail to pass the signal when between AVR and Epson. (I have to say that I am amazed that a 50 foot copper cable will reliably carry an 18Gbps signal, it is so atypical). If your other sources such as Xbox do support 4K60P via AVR and the 50 foot HDMI cable then I would check carefully to see exactly what signal is being received by the Epson in each case to make sure its an apples-to-apples bandwidth comparison to what the PC is generating.

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hi, i just saw that specific comment. is there something wrong with the way 3d support is implemented on the 5050?
As a former 5040 owner/current 5050 owner, 3D works the same on both devices. I havent seen any difference yet, but have only watched 2 3D films (Prometheus and Rogue One).

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As a former 5040 owner/current 5050 owner, 3D works the same on both devices. I havent seen any difference yet, but have only watched 2 3D films (Prometheus and Rogue One).
go figure, who knows. i just saw the comment, so, got curious.

i am still trying to find some place where it would be easy to see the exact list of differences between 4010/4050/5050 models, but, it does not seem to be any yet, it seems...
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So I finally tried to hook up my Xbox One X and I get a black screen with no option to change any menu settings in the Epson. The player was previously hooked up to my old projector and should be set up in 1080 P. Any thoughts?
I had problems getting my Xbox One S to output a 4K signal. I got all the checkboxes that it was recognizing the epson as a 4K display but when I selected 4K as the output, I'd get the black screen and after about 30 secs. it would revert back to 1080p and the picture would return. I messed around with several settings on the projector and the xbox to no avail. I dug into the menu on my AVR and there was a setting to upscale 1080p to 4K...once I enabled that, I was able to go in the xbox settings and select 4K and the projector reported it was displaying a 4K signal. Now that that was established, I disabled the AVR setting again, and the projector is still reporting that it's receiving a 4K signal, whereas before it wasn't...so not sure what happened.

I was getting the black screen also in one of the enhanced modes in the projector settings. I can't remember which one it was that gave me the screen but try changing it from whatever it is now. There's only the 2 options - Normal or Enhanced

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go figure, who knows. i just saw the comment, so, got curious.

i am still trying to find some place where it would be easy to see the exact list of differences between 4010/4050/5050 models, but, it does not seem to be any yet, it seems...
Not sure about those three, but I saw a comparison of the 5040/5050. Not sure if I posted this in this thread before but http://www.audiogurus.com/learn/disp...projector/4916 was a good read IMO.

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Not sure about those three, but I saw a comparison of the 5040/5050. Not sure if I posted this in this thread before but http://www.audiogurus.com/learn/disp...projector/4916 was a good read IMO.
me neither. i am curious if there is any info anywhere of what the factual measured contrast is on the 4010 model, as it is, as i understand, the same pretty much 5050 model, using same 18gbps chip, but, lower contrast.
considering those contrast ratios from the recent 5050 review - see below, i just would love to know, what exactly is $1700 4010 does in the same area compared to $2999 5050.

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No Iris, In My Theater

Cinema Bright Mode Medium- 5500:1 contrast
Cinema Mode Medium - 6200:1 contrast
Digital Cinema Mode Medium - 6100:1 contrast
Natural Mode Medium - 5700:1 contrast
Dynamic Mode Medium - 7846:1 contrast

Iris On, High Speed, In My Theater

Cinema Bright Mode Medium- 65000:1 contrast
Cinema Mode Medium - 150,000:1 contrast
Digital Cinema Mode Medium - 125,000:1 contrast
Natural Mode Medium - 73,000:1 contrast
Dynamic Mode Medium - 620,000:1 contrast


PS. i found 4010 review with that info:

All luminance values are expressed here in nits, also known as candelas per square meter (cd/m2). For those needing a frame of reference, 1fL equals 3.43 nits, or 1 nit equals .29fL.

The Home Cinema 4010 is a bright projector, but it won’t quite pump out the searing whites of some compact DLP models. I started by measuring its native contrast after calibration in the Medium bulb mode. Peak white was 213.3837 nits with .0495 nits black and 1257.8:1 contrast.

Setting the auto-iris to High Speed results in the greatest possible contrast. The Eco bulb mode is fine for small to medium theaters with screens up to around 100”. There, you’ll see 193.2571 nits white, .0128 nits black, and 15,134.4:1 contrast. For more light output, set the bulb to High. Then, the white level is 261.5022 nits with .0183 nits black and 14,264.2:1 contrast.

Without 3D glasses, I was unable to test the 3D mode.

HDR produces similar results to SDR. In Digital Cinema mode, with the bulb on High, and the auto-iris set to High Speed, I recorded 128.0429 nits white, .0079 nits black, and 16,274.9:1 contrast. This combination yields the highest dynamic range thanks to the internal color filter that enables the full DCI-P3 color gamut.

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I assume these were these all at 4K60P and so are consistent with a full 18Gbps HDMI link. You also said in another reply that this was with Expanded setting on the Epson when the cable is direct from PC to Epson. However, based on your original comments, if you insert the AVR into the chain, without changing anything else, then the PC will only display at 1080P (Epson still set to Expanded) and you can only get a 4K60P capability from the PC via AVR to Epson with Epson set to Normal. If I have that correct then maybe there is an EDID problem with the AVR when between the PC and the Epson.

Things to try in order to narrow down the problem.
  1. Seems a good idea to update your AVR's software, but worth checking the AVR forum for any gotchas first perhaps.
  2. After updating the AVR (and assuming that doesn't fix the issue), maybe experiment with different nVidia outputs with the AVR in between (and Epson still set to Expanded) to see what if anything works at 4K60P. Maybe start at 4K60P 4:2:0 8bpc (i.e. only 9Gbps interface speed) and work up from there to try to establish at what point the PC fails to see 4K as a valid option. Something else to also try is to set the PC output to Full 0-255 or just Limited 16-235 Video range. Maybe the results of this exercise would provide further clues.
  3. Got any friends that might be able to bring over a different AVR to try?


Hey thanks for all the suggestions!

I updated my firmware on the AVR and that didn’t fix it. So one thing that may have not come across clear is that I can get 4K at 60hz with the AVR and Expanded. It just doesn’t show that the native resolution is 4K and I have to manually select it. When I have the AVR in the chain and the projector set at Expanded, my PC defaults to 1080p and shows that as the native resolution. I can activate HDR also at the 1080p resolution. Now still with the AVR in the mix and on Expanded, I can change the resolution to 4K 60hz but I cannot get HDR at all. It just turns itself off. The only way to get 4K 60hz as the native default resolution is to either change the EDID on my projector to Normal or hook the pc directly to the projector. Only difference between those two is that with the AVR in the Mix and EDID at normal, even though I get 4K as the native resolution, I still can’t get HDR at that resolution. The ONLY way is to remove the AVR from the chain.

Hope this makes sense! I’ll try your suggestions with the different outputs, color and range on the PC


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Hey thanks for all the suggestions!

I updated my firmware on the AVR and that didn’t fix it. So one thing that may have not come across clear is that I can get 4K at 60hz with the AVR and Expanded. It just doesn’t show that the native resolution is 4K and I have to manually select it. When I have the AVR in the chain and the projector set at Expanded, my PC defaults to 1080p and shows that as the native resolution. I can activate HDR also at the 1080p resolution. Now still with the AVR in the mix and on Expanded, I can change the resolution to 4K 60hz but I cannot get HDR at all. It just turns itself off. The only way to get 4K 60hz as the native default resolution is to either change the EDID on my projector to Normal or hook the pc directly to the projector. Only difference between those two is that with the AVR in the Mix and EDID at normal, even though I get 4K as the native resolution, I still can’t get HDR at that resolution. The ONLY way is to remove the AVR from the chain.

Hope this makes sense! I’ll try your suggestions with the different outputs, color and range on the PC
OK. I also added an edit to my original comment ref the 50 foot cable interactions with the other components that might be worth keeping in mind. My suggestion would be to be super methodical with your testing and make sure you are capturing and documenting in full every piece of data about what is being output from the source, what the AVR reports and what the Epson reports. So in each case you really want to capture resolution, refresh rate, chroma sub-sampling, and bits per channel. To be real safe, at this point it might be worth taking your projector down and only using short, Premium Certified cables from PC to AVR and AVR to Epson. Good luck!
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Is the case of the 5050 the same as the 5040? Just trying to see if the mounting pattern is exactly the same or different.
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Is the case of the 5050 the same as the 5040? Just trying to see if the mounting pattern is exactly the same or different.
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hi, i just saw that specific comment. is there something wrong with the way 3d support is implemented on the 5050?
Sorry, my choice of words could be confusing. I was not referfing to actual 3D but 3D "like" images. When a 2D image looks a little like 3D and the colors and contrast are right on then it is often referred to as having POP.

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As a former 5040 owner/current 5050 owner, 3D works the same on both devices. I havent seen any difference yet, but have only watched 2 3D films (Prometheus and Rogue One).
go figure, who knows. i just saw the comment, so, got curious.

i am still trying to find some place where it would be easy to see the exact list of differences between 4010/4050/5050 models, but, it does not seem to be any yet, it seems...
I think the OP was just using "3D" in the figurative sense not literally. Meaning they thought the image would have more pop and depth . That is the way I took that comment. I owned a 5040 and now a 5050. I think the 3D imaging is the same on both with 5050b having a slight edge due to a percieved sharper image. Just my two cents.
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I am coming from a BenQ w6000, I've had it since it launched and am on my 6th bulb. My current screen is 130" 16:9. I want an acoustically transparent screen for the new room I am building and have been considering spandex for cost reasons. I am shooting for a 140" cih, would the epson handle that size and does anyone here have experience with spandex vs a manufactured AT screen?
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Purely based on lumen output, the projectors are very similar. Here is a basic comparison. Having said that, I think most people believe that the color output of the Epson is better than most, equivalent brightness, DLP projectors. Of course, it all depends on the color wheel in the DLP. If it is RGBRGB there may be no difference in the color output vs. the white output. The above observation is primarily aimed at the DLP projectors that use RGBW color wheels with the extra white segment to boost the total "white" output at the expense of color saturation.

With regards to the spandex screen (I have a 110" white on black spandex screen with an 8700UB): it has a very tight weave that is not noticeable beyond a few inches, so moire is a nonissue, as well. The acoustic transparency of spandex is also very good and has only the slightest rolloff of the highest frequencies. My recollection is less than 1dB at 16k-20k Hz. The primary downfall of Spandex is low gain, on the order of .8-.9. In a light controlled room you should not have any problems, especially if the front half of your theater has received the black velvet treatment.

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Was able to snag a basically new 5050b for a super deal from an internet reviewer. Loving the picture already. coming from a Sony vpl-hw40es the Hdr looks awesome. Can't wait to get it tweaked correctly and really show it off. Looking forward to other people's feedback on their settings etc. As I'm very much a hobbyist and not an expert in that regard.

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Purely based on lumen output, the projectors are very similar. Here is a basic comparison. Having said that, I think most people believe that the color output of the Epson is better than most, equivalent brightness, DLP projectors. Of course, it all depends on the color wheel in the DLP. If it is RGBRGB there may be no difference in the color output vs. the white output. The above observation is primarily aimed at the DLP projectors that use RGBW color wheels with the extra white segment to boost the total "white" output at the expense of color saturation.

With regards to the spandex screen (I have a 110" white on black spandex screen with an 8700UB): it has a very tight weave that is not noticeable beyond a few inches, so moire is a nonissue, as well. The acoustic transparency of spandex is also very good and has only the slightest rolloff of the highest frequencies. My recollection is less than 1dB at 16k-20k Hz. The primary downfall of Spandex is low gain, on the order of .8-.9. In a light controlled room you should not have any problems, especially if the front half of your theater has received the black velvet treatment.
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Ditto, except I would guess the gain of my matte white on black spandex screen is 0.75 to 0.80 after comparing it to known samples from Seymour.
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If it helps any, I'm running the 5050ub on medium lamp power, dynamic mode, on a 1.3 gain 150" 2.35:1 dark grey screen and it's phenomenal 😁
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If it helps any, I'm running the 5050ub on medium lamp power, dynamic mode, on a 1.3 gain 150" 2.35:1 dark grey screen and it's phenomenal 😁
Dumb question: for me nothing looks better than when it's on high lamp power. Why keep it on medium when high looks better?
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Dumb question: for me nothing looks better than when it's on high lamp power. Why keep it on medium when high looks better?


Your running the bulb hotter it burns out quicker. I’ve never run mine out of Eco. I rather not deal with any more ambient noise and I’ll get 1,500 hours more out of the bulb.


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Your running the bulb hotter it burns out quicker. I’ve never run mine out of Eco. I rather not deal with any more ambient noise and I’ll get 1,500 hours more out of the bulb.


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Dumb question: for me nothing looks better than when it's on high lamp power. Why keep it on medium when high looks better?
Not a dumb question at all. Running the 5050ub on high increases the fan noise a touch. Also, with that projector, it's simply too bright. You'd understand if you could see that in my setup. A super bright image doesn't mean it looks better than a medium one. Try watching a 3 hour action movie on my Epson (in bright mode) and your eyes will be hurting afterward.
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Not a dumb question at all. Running the 5050ub on high increases the fan noise a touch. Also, with that projector, it's simply too bright. You'd understand if you could see that in my setup. A super bright image doesn't mean it looks better than a medium one. Try watching a 3 hour action movie on my Epson (in bright mode) and your eyes will be hurting afterward.
It greatly depends on your size of screen and where your lens zoom is at and type of room environment it's viewed in, I'm on a 100" screen at almost maximum zoom and a bat cave so really ECO is more than enough it either SDR or HDR for me, maybe if I used 3D I might stretch to MEDIUM but never HIGH as it's way too loud.

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Hey Guys!!! Just got off the phone with Leo at Epson. He called to follow up with me on my firmware issue. Looks like Epson loaded the wrong firmware on their website for the 5050 which is why it didn’t work. Lol

It’s been fixed so everyone that wants to update should be able to now. Good luck!


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Hey Guys!!! Just got off the phone with Leo at Epson. He called to follow up with me on my firmware issue. Looks like Epson loaded the wrong firmware on their website for the 5050 which is why it didn’t work. Lol

It’s been fixed so everyone that wants to update should be able to now. Good luck!


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Awesome! Thanks!
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