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Not sure if it applies in your case, but specifically with my Nvidia Shield, the handshake was extremely slow (~40 seconds) when I used a copper 35ft HDMI cable. Switching to a fiber optic cable cut that down to about 5 seconds. This was with the EDID mode set to expanded in both cases.

My full connection chain is: Nvidia Shield --(3ft copper)--> Denon X4500H --(50ft fiber)--> Epson 5050UB.
What cable did you purchase? I have a 30' foot run to a 6050 and it will also be from a Denon.
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What cable did you purchase? I have a 30' foot run to a 6050 and it will also be from a Denon.
This is the one I have: https://www.amazon.com/RUIPRO-4K60HZ...TRZ?th=1&psc=1

Pretty expensive, but it fixed all the signal issues I ran into. If you're planning on using the cable in wall/ceiling, I'd highly recommend staying away from HDMI wall plates and get a plate that allows the cable to pass straight through.
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What cable did you purchase? I have a 30' foot run to a 6050 and it will also be from a Denon.
I have a 35' run from my Epson 5050 to my Denon 7200WA that was giving me trouble, until I tried this cable.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

$23 and full compatibility with everything I could throw at it with the projector's EDID set to EXPANDED. I HIGHLY recommend trying it.
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Not sure if it applies in your case, but specifically with my Nvidia Shield, the handshake was extremely slow (~40 seconds) when I used a copper 35ft HDMI cable. Switching to a fiber optic cable cut that down to about 5 seconds. This was with the EDID mode set to expanded in both cases.

My full connection chain is: Nvidia Shield --(3ft copper)--> Denon X4500H --(50ft fiber)--> Epson 5050UB.
With my set-up I've got a couple of short cables for my bluray player and UHD player to my Marantz SR6011 and then a 5m (15') premium certified cable to the projector.

40secs sounds about right for EXPANDED in my set-up....You find the movies started with sound and a black image and then things kick in. NORMAL and it's a couple of seconds and great!

I'm mainly watching UHD or Blurays and occasionally Netflixs or Prime on the Panasonic 420, which all work great.

I do actually have an xbox ones and PlayStation 4 in the living room, but rarely use them as not much of a gamer these days. I do also have a 2017 shield in the living room too....Though prefer my Amazon FireTV 4K 2nd gen box for most the time down there as the Netflix auto play on the Shield irks me, though it's Youtube app is great and it boots up quicker.

I do find it irritating that only my Panasonic 420 gets Atmos on Netflix, the Xbox can, but the iffy remote and noise stop me bothering!!!
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I have a 35' run from my Epson 5050 to my Denon 7200WA that was giving me trouble, until I tried this cable.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

$23 and full compatibility with everything I could throw at it with the projector's EDID set to EXPANDED. I HIGHLY recommend trying it.
What is the handshake time you are seeing using this cable? I would pay extra for an optical cable if it was the difference of 30-40 seconds to 5 seconds. I cant imaging dealing with a 30 second handshake/black screen every time I switch inputs or content!
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This is the one I have: https://www.amazon.com/RUIPRO-4K60HZ...TRZ?th=1&psc=1

Pretty expensive, but it fixed all the signal issues I ran into. If you're planning on using the cable in wall/ceiling, I'd highly recommend staying away from HDMI wall plates and get a plate that allows the cable to pass straight through.
I went with this one. Grabbed it on a Lightning Deal for $35.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07L2YGG68/

5-10 second handshake from Shield to the 5050, through a Marantz 7010.
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What is the handshake time you are seeing using this cable? I would pay extra for an optical cable if it was the difference of 30-40 seconds to 5 seconds. I cant imaging dealing with a 30 second handshake/black screen every time I switch inputs or content!
It's pretty instant, less than 5 seconds for sure. 30 seconds is unfathomable.
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It's pretty instant, less than 5 seconds for sure. 30 seconds is unfathomable.
Awesome! No reason not to try the less expensive option first, hopefully it will work for me too.
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Epson 9400 (5050UB) versus Sony 295ES comparison - 1080 pixel shifting versus true 4k

Our local Magnolia Design Center/Best Buy have both units on display and allowed me to do a fairly exhaustive shootout yesterday. Here is my opinion on the 2 projectors, which were side-by-side:

Both were fed 2 sources - one was a hard drive 1080p source and the other was a 4k disc of "A Beautiful Planet" and "The Amazing Spider-man 2". The discs are shot in 4k and 4k mastered. Both sources were SDR. Screen was a 92" Screen Innovations. Room could be darkened, but light was coming through the door window.

The Epson was set to "bright cinema" mode, image preset 3 with 4k enhancement activated. The Sony was set to "bright cinema" with default sharpness. Default contrast, color, brightness settings were used on both projectors.

With those settings, I had to increase the sharpness on the Sony to +80 units (default is +50) to match the Epson in sharpness. It was most noticeable with printed graphics in the 4k discs. Without the added sharpness, the Epson's sharpness was superior.

The Epson had a much brighter, contrastier image than the Sony. The Sony's image was beautiful, but dim. Much dimmer. I would be concerned using it with a 120" or larger diagonal screen.

Blacks were about the same, although I couldn't get the room pitch dark.

Since the Sony is a true 4k projector, I expected it to be noticeably sharper. I didn't find that to be the case.

I disagree with those that say the pixel shifting does not add to the sharpness of the image. That simply is not what I saw.

My concerns about the Epson not being sharp enough, due to pixel shifting, were not proven by my comparison. In fact, I had to bump up the sharpness on the Sony to match the Epson. Granted, the source was movies and concerts, not graphics and text.


I could have gotten either projector - although I would have had to find a good enough reason to pay the extra $2000. I put 10% down on the Epson.

Please ask any questions you might have on my personal shootout. Just trying to help.

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Not sure if it applies in your case, but specifically with my Nvidia Shield, the handshake was extremely slow (~40 seconds) when I used a copper 35ft HDMI cable. Switching to a fiber optic cable cut that down to about 5 seconds. This was with the EDID mode set to expanded in both cases.

My full connection chain is: Nvidia Shield --(3ft copper)--> Denon X4500H --(50ft fiber)--> Epson 5050UB.
What cable did you purchase? I have a 30' foot run to a 6050 and it will also be from a Denon.
I have the Epson 6050 along with Denon x4500h and I use this 50-foot cable it gives a great sound field and and amazing picture!!

https://www.amazon.com/Fiber-FURUI-H...8-4&th=1&psc=1
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Epson 9400 (5050UB) versus Sony 295ES comparison - 1080 pixel shifting versus true 4k

Our local Magnolia Design Center/Best Buy have both units on display and allowed me to do a fairly exhaustive shootout yesterday. Here is my opinion on the 2 projectors, which were side-by-side:

Both were fed 2 sources - one was a hard drive 1080p source and the other was a 4k disc of "A Beautiful Planet" and "The Amazing Spider-man 2". The discs are shot in 4k and 4k mastered. Both sources were SDR. Screen was a 92" Screen Innovations. Room could be darkened, but light was coming through the door window.

The Epson was set to "bright cinema" mode, image preset 3 with 4k enhancement activated. The Sony was set to "bright cinema" with default sharpness. Default contrast, color, brightness settings were used on both projectors.

With those settings, I had to increase the sharpness on the Sony to +80 units (default is +50) to match the Epson in sharpness. It was most noticeable with printed graphics in the 4k discs. Without the added sharpness, the Epson's sharpness was superior.

The Epson had a much brighter, contrastier image than the Sony. The Sony's image was beautiful, but dim. Much dimmer. I would be concerned using it with a 120" or larger diagonal screen.

Blacks were about the same, although I couldn't get the room pitch dark.

Since the Sony is a true 4k projector, I expected it to be noticeably sharper. I didn't find that to be the case.

I disagree with those that say the pixel shifting does not add to the sharpness of the image. That simply is not what I saw.

My concerns about the Epson not being sharp enough, due to pixel shifting, were not proven by my comparison. In fact, I had to bump up the sharpness on the Sony to match the Epson. Granted, the source was movies and concerts, not graphics and text.


I could have gotten either projector - although I would have had to find a good enough reason to pay the extra $2000. I put 10% down on the Epson.

Please ask any questions you might have on my personal shootout. Just trying to help.

Pete

This is an interesting post and reflects a lot of what has been debated over the last few years. A lot of folks in the Sony camp are accusing those looking at or purchasing the current JVC 4K lineup as being hypocritical. Citing that "4K didn't matter and now it does". Which really isn't the case and it's because of exactly what you've observed. Sony for years has touted their "native 4K" projector, but has implemented processing that does not actually allow their products to resolve single pixel 4K test patterns (like the QBF test pattern). There's a service menu item that needs to be turned off to improve this (but not overcome it). Which begs the question why is it on by default? Add to that their lens tolerances from what I've observed aren't up to the task. Both Sony 4K units I was able to evaluate showed lens uniformity issues with focus degrading off center. When I evaluated Sony 4K units in comparison to the JVC e-shift models and Epson 5040, this is certainly a reason why pixel shifting came very close to matching the detail the "native" Sony units put out. I believe the latest x95 generation has improved on the lens QC, but the processing issues are still present. By comparison the NX5/NX7 samples that people have received do indeed resolve single pixel 4K test patterns with excellent uniformity. Though I still would not say it's a "massive" jump over pixel shifting. I will say with a reasonable seating distance it is certainly noticeable on a well mastered disc.

As to the Epson vs. JVC on sharpness. I found the all glass lens on the JVC to be notably sharper. The Epson 5040 had processing that enhanced sharpness and the visible pixel edge of LCD can give an illusion of "sharp". I know the 5050 has improved on the lens so it may be much closer optics wise. That's no dig on Epson, just that sharpness is a tricky thing to nail down (and good optics aren't cheap). There's a lot of attributes that go into "sharp". JVC simply doesn't bake in the same default levels. The local AV shop that has a 5050 has a 790, so I'll be curious to go between them and see how they stack up.

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Honestly, when I fired up both projectors with the 4k "Beautiful Planet" disc, I immediately found the 5050UB to look sharper. It wasn't a test pattern, rather just a movie, albeit shot and mastered in 4k. So, I spent the next 10 minutes trying to get the Sony 295ES to look as sharp.

At the end of the day, it's about perception and maybe not entirely reality. Epson seems to have nailed its processing of the image, while in reality it only has 1/2 the pixel resolution.

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This is an interesting post and reflects a lot of what has been debated over the last few years. A lot of folks in the Sony camp are accusing those looking at or purchasing the current JVC 4K lineup as being hypocritical. Citing that "4K didn't matter and now it does". Which really isn't the case and it's because of exactly what you've observed. Sony for years has touted their "native 4K" projector, but has implemented processing that does not actually allow their products to resolve single pixel 4K test patterns (like the QBF test pattern). There's a service menu item that needs to be turned off to improve this (but not overcome it). Which begs the question why is it on by default? Add to that their lens tolerances from what I've observed aren't up to the task. Both Sony 4K units I was able to evaluate showed lens uniformity issues with focus degrading off center. When I evaluated Sony 4K units in comparison to the JVC e-shift models and Epson 5040, this is certainly a reason why pixel shifting came very close to matching the detail the "native" Sony units put out. I believe the latest x95 generation has improved on the lens QC, but the processing issues are still present. By comparison the NX5/NX7 samples that people have received do indeed resolve single pixel 4K test patterns with excellent uniformity. Though I still would not say it's a "massive" jump over pixel shifting. I will say with a reasonable seating distance it is certainly noticeable on a well mastered disc.

As to the Epson vs. JVC on sharpness. I found the all glass lens on the JVC to be notably sharper. The Epson 5040 had processing that enhanced sharpness and the visible pixel edge of LCD can give an illusion of "sharp". I know the 5050 has improved on the lens so it may be much closer optics wise. That's no dig on Epson, just that sharpness is a tricky thing to nail down (and good optics aren't cheap). There's a lot of attributes that go into "sharp". JVC simply doesn't bake in the same default levels. The local AV shop that has a 5050 has a 790, so I'll be curious to go between them and see how they stack up.
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Good evening, all.

I've been out of the loop on projectors, HDMI specs, etc. for a few years, so bear with me...


I am considering upgrading to the 5050 - I currently have a 4-year-old Sony VPL-40ES that I would retire. Nothing wrong with the latter, just older technology.

My receiver is the Marantz SR7008, advertised as "1080P and 4K Ultra HD Pass Through". Not exactly sure that that means. It is 1.4a HDMI.

Does the fact that my receiver is 1.4a HDMI mean I am going to have issues passing the blu-ray and/or 4k video signal through from my HTPC and/or 4k blu-ray player to the 5050? Given that the 5050 is 2.0 HDMI, how will my older receiver's 1.4a HDMI work with it?

I guess I'm confused about the different HDMI ratings, and how they impact video signals. Am I better off bypassing the SR7008 and running the video direct from the player to the 5050?

Also, my current HDMI cable in the ceiling is 2.0 HDMI, so I think I'm good with that? Or do I need to run a new HDMI cable to the 5050 as well?


Thanks for helping me understand all this...

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Good evening, all.

I've been out of the loop on projectors, HDMI specs, etc. for a few years, so bear with me...


I am considering upgrading to the 5050 - I currently have a 4-year-old Sony VPL-40ES that I would retire. Nothing wrong with the latter, just older technology.

My receiver is the Marantz SR7008, advertised as "1080P and 4K Ultra HD Pass Through". Not exactly sure that that means. It is 1.4a HDMI.

Does the fact that my receiver is 1.4a HDMI mean I am going to have issues passing the blu-ray and/or 4k video signal through from my HTPC and/or 4k blu-ray player to the 5050? Given that the 5050 is 2.0 HDMI, how will my older receiver's 1.4a HDMI work with it?

I guess I'm confused about the different HDMI ratings, and how they impact video signals. Am I better off bypassing the SR7008 and running the video direct from the player to the 5050?

Also, my current HDMI cable in the ceiling is 2.0 HDMI, so I think I'm good with that? Or do I need to run a new HDMI cable to the 5050 as well?


Thanks for helping me understand all this...

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There are two standards that get discussed, HDMI and HDCP.

HDMI will refer to speed/bandwidth.
HDCP will refer to copy protection and passing high definition signals.

HDMI 2.0 and HDCP 2.2 have been mainstream for awhile now. You need HDCP 2.2 to pass 4k signals. Everything in your chain would need to be HDCP 2.2, AV Receiver, Blue-Ray Player, TV/Projector to pass the signal.

HDMI 2.1 is just starting to appear in newly released equipment. HDMI 2.1 will incorporate HDCP 2.3 which will allow for 8k+ video to pass.

I would make sure your current cable is marked "High Speed" in order for it to pass 4k but if I was spending money on new projector/equipment, I would also throw a new cabe up in the ceiling.

Google HDMI cable specifications, there is some good information on the new marketing terms and a certification process that is being used to help consumers know they are getting a certified cable.

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Good evening, all.

I've been out of the loop on projectors, HDMI specs, etc. for a few years, so bear with me...


I am considering upgrading to the 5050 - I currently have a 4-year-old Sony VPL-40ES that I would retire. Nothing wrong with the latter, just older technology.

My receiver is the Marantz SR7008, advertised as "1080P and 4K Ultra HD Pass Through". Not exactly sure that that means. It is 1.4a HDMI.

Does the fact that my receiver is 1.4a HDMI mean I am going to have issues passing the blu-ray and/or 4k video signal through from my HTPC and/or 4k blu-ray player to the 5050? Given that the 5050 is 2.0 HDMI, how will my older receiver's 1.4a HDMI work with it?

I guess I'm confused about the different HDMI ratings, and how they impact video signals. Am I better off bypassing the SR7008 and running the video direct from the player to the 5050?

Also, my current HDMI cable in the ceiling is 2.0 HDMI, so I think I'm good with that? Or do I need to run a new HDMI cable to the 5050 as well?


Thanks for helping me understand all this... <img src="https://www.avsforum.com/forum/images/AVSForum/smilies/tango_face_wink.png" border="0" alt="" title="Wink" class="inlineimg" />

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HDMI 1.4 supported 4K resolutions, yes, but only at 24 or 30 frames per second (fps). That works fine for movies but isn’t useful for gaming and many TV broadcasts, which require 50 or 60 fps. Also, HDMI 1.4 limited 4K Ultra HD content to 8-bit color, though it is capable of 10- or 12-bit color. HDMI 2.0 fixed all of that because it could handle up to 18 gigabits per second — plenty enough to allow for 12-bit color and video up to 60 frames per second.

So the 5050 supports 4K/60FPS because it handles up to 18 gigabits per second, but your AVR does not which could create some issues between your AVR and projector and other devices such as a media streamer. You could have some handshake issues. Depending upon the media streamer you utilize your favorite apps may stream UHD content at 24,30 or 60 frames per second(FPS). I would say give it a try. My concern would be audio and video dropouts due to handshake issues because your Marantz receiver is incompatible with HDMI 2.0.

Most 4K discs are now mastered in 10 and 12 bit color format for more vibrant dynamic images and fantastic HDR. HDMI 1.4 does not support those formats. The Epson 5050ub supports discs in those 10 and 12 bit formats so if your receiver does not you wouldn't be fully utilizing the capability of the projector.
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OK, I think I'm getting this...

1. My existing HDMI cable is "high speed", so I think I can try it out for now:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Easy to run a new HDMI through if I'm having any issues with the old.

2. Because my receiver is only HDMI 1.4a, this will be a limiting factor in terms of 4K video - it might pass the 4K signal through but at a lower resolution.

3. Once I get the new 5050, I can experiment with my setup. I can run it through my receiver and see what happens. I can bypass the receiver's video by running the 5050 directly to my HTPC, and run audio separately to my receiver.

4. My HTPC was built for me by a smart high school kid, a few years ago. I just checked, and I am running the NVIDIA GeForce GT 730 graphics card. I'll have to do some research to see if this can handle 4K/60FPS.


Thanks again! This is like speaking a foreign language.

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Also, if my main (99%) use of my home theater is movie watching (blu-ray and eventually 4K), will my 1.4a HDMI receiver be that much of a limiting factor?
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There are two standards that get discussed, HDMI and HDCP.

HDMI will refer to speed/bandwidth.
HDCP will refer to copy protection and passing high definition signals.

HDMI 2.0 and HDCP 2.2 have been mainstream for awhile now. You need HDCP 2.2 to pass 4k signals. Everything in your chain would need to be HDCP 2.2, AV Receiver, Blue-Ray Player, TV/Projector to pass the signal.

HDMI 2.1 is just starting to appear in newly released equipment. HDMI 2.1 will incorporate HDCP 2.3 which will allow for 8k+ video to pass.

I would make sure your current cable is marked "High Speed" in order for it to pass 4k but if I was spending money on new projector/equipment, I would also throw a new cabe up in the ceiling.

Google HDMI cable specifications, there is some good information on the new marketing terms and a certification process that is being used to help consumers know they are getting a certified cable.

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On the HDMI. Don't rely on the words "high speed" "latest standard" "deep color support", etc regarding HDMI. You also can't always depend on a cable advertised as 2.2 compliant actually being 2.2 compliant. Read the fine print as there are quite a few cables being "passed off" as high speed and meeting latest standards that still have the old Redmere chipset, only support 10.2 GBps, and only support 24 or 30hz.

Keep it simple. Look for 60hz and 18GBPS and you should have full 4k support. A few more details in post #451 this thread.
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Keep it simple. Look for 60hz and 18GBPS and you should have full 4k support. A few more details in post #451 this thread.

This is how my current HDMI is described:

PERFORMANCE – This HDMI cable supports full 60Hz at 4K resolution, 2160p, 48 bit/px color depth, and bandwidth speed of up to 18GBps to meet the latest HDMI standards.


I should be good with this, I assume.
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Perhaps I should go with the 5050UBe, so as to not bother with the HDMI cable at all?

Are there limitations of the 5050UBe versus the standard 5050 (other than additional cost)?
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Are there limitations of the 5050UBe versus the standard 5050 (other than additional cost)?
I don't believe you will be able to get 4K w/ HDR @ 60hz.
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The one thing i have not sen discussed in any of the professional reviews is how the new models handle fast side to side panning. This is the one area i am less than happy with on my jvc rs520 .
Try changing "motion enhance". It doesn't do anything like the Clear Motion Drive (frame interpolation/soap opera effect), just overdrives the panel some (which may help with motion). Sorry for the JVC tip in the Epson thread

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Perhaps I should go with the 5050UBe, so as to not bother with the HDMI cable at all?

Are there limitations of the 5050UBe versus the standard 5050 (other than additional cost)?
The wireless is only 1.4a so you are limited to 4K/30 over wireless, which defeats one of the big selling points of the 5050UB (HDMI 2.0 and 4K/60 HDR). You also need line-of-sight from your component rack to the projector's HDMI receiver, which is on the front, so depending how your room is configured that could be a major issue. If I were you I would buy the 'normal' version, and pick up a thin fiber HDMI cable which are much easier to run in some channeling or whatever else you might use to get it up to the PJ.
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So I had my 5050 for about 3 days and sometimes when I would switch inputs I would get the message " No Input" or "Not Supported" next to the HDMI 1 text. The only way to fix it was the power cycle the machine. When I would attempt to turn the projector off with the power button, the status light would flash blue and the lamp light would flash orange. I looked up the status lights in the manual which told me: "Internal projector error; turn the projector off, unplug it, and contact Epson for help".

I called Epson support expecting them to have me try a few things or install and update but they pretty much immediately set up a warranty replacement. Has anyone had a similar issue? The projector was AWESOME for the three days I could use it...cant wait for my replacement.
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When I remodeled my H/T room I ran Certified HDMI cables in the walls/ceiling. I did NOT however replace all the HDMI cables at the A/V rack with certified cables. My 5050UB was the last 4K piece I had to add to be completely 4K in my theater room. Well last night when watching Captain Marvell through the Apple TV 4K, about mid-way through the movie I had hand shake issues with my HDMI cables, unplugged the HDMI cable at the wall and re-plugged it in and the rest of the movie played fine. This morning, ordered all new Certified HDMI cables from Monoprice which should be here Thursday. Hoping this is the last time I have to worry about this issue.
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Ceiling mount recommendation? Chief looks good but expensive.
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PCMD makes very solid mounts. Very strong and inexpensive. I like that the mounting plate has 8 holes aligned with the 8 holes on the Epson 5050. Not as easy to align as the Chief mounts. Then again they are 1/5th the cost. I owned one for my 5040 for two years and was only replaced because the 6050 comes with a mount. PCMD also offer free exchanges in the future when you purchase a new projector you send then the old mount and they send you one to fit your new projector. They have storefronts on Ebay, Amazon and Walmart.

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This is how my current HDMI is described:

PERFORMANCE – This HDMI cable supports full 60Hz at 4K resolution, 2160p, 48 bit/px color depth, and bandwidth speed of up to 18GBps to meet the latest HDMI standards.


I should be good with this, I assume.
Yep, and once again 60hz and 18GBps is what you need to know, the rest is superfluous. FYI, if you plan to run up to 35 ft I personally recommend active cables making sure you get the "new" Spectra7 chipset and if you plan to run longer cable I highly recommend fiber optic HDMI like the ones some of the previous posts refer too. Also recommend finding one with a lifetime warranty and if you are going to "pull" a long run through walls and studs without a conduit, I highly recommend purchasing 2 cables in case either one gets damaged during the pull (way too common) and/or one does not handshake as advertised.
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PCMD makes very solid mounts. Very strong and inexpensive. I like that the mounting plate has 8 holes aligned with the 8 holes on the Epson 5050. Not as easy to align as the Chief mounts. Then again they are 1/5th the cost. I owned one for my 5040 for two years and was only replaced because the 6050 comes with a mount. PCMD also offer free exchanges in the future when you purchase a new projector you send then the old mount and they send you one to fit your new projector. They have storefronts on Ebay, Amazon and Walmart.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Projector-C....c100930.m5375
Too funny! I just went downstairs to my home theater to see what I had. Turns out I already have a PCMD mount on my old Sony. Looks like I can trade that in for a new mount for my new 5050.

Thanks for the recommendation. I just saved myself $60 over buying a new PCMD and hundreds over buying a new Chief.

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